General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
He is, but as we found out in 2016, polls are shit.
I think the fact that every single poll keeps on showing Labour gaining on the Conservatives proves that it really is happening. We just don't really know by how much.
 
What was her answer? There's a trap in that question.

*Edit, just saw Smores reply..*

She just repeated her previous reply about Rudd but it implies she watched it last night or today. When you've made excuses about being too busy its not the best answer
 
She definitely has an awkwardness that's takes the worst of Miliband and the worst of Brown and forms some kind of super being of awkwardness. If she was Labour she'd be at about -50.

At least Brown and Milliband appeared sincere. Her personality has literally no redeeming features
 
That's besides the point. We're talking about Jeremy Corbyn, not the government.

I wouldn't trust Jeremy in any way to handle the Brexit process. He's failed in his leadership to exhibit any competence or even intelligent comment in this area.

Do you still believe this TH? Or has the campaign won you over a bit?
 
So her new soundbite is 'I have the plan'. Presumably followed by 'I'll tell you what it is after the election'.
 
It's amazing, if May was Labour leader and Corbyn was Tory leader, it'd be the biggest whitewash in election history. She's so banal and awkward, yet the campaign is totally based on presenting her as someone who will fight tooth and nail for the country. I just hope her and her party get their comeuppance when the counts come in.
 
The QT special tomorrow is the big one really. If May can avoid looking like her skin is out of sync with her body she might still get a majority.
She's getting one regardless, and a large one at that.
 

Lot of interesting stuff in that poll. Tories failing to unify the Leave vote as they have been elsewhere with Labour taking much more of the Tory remainers (Jippy is obviously not an outlier), Labour's support much more uniform across the age groups (other than 65+ where it's the same) so less reliance on turnout, and Sadiq is MASSIVELY popular still.
 
There should be an independent body or something that can compel the fecking Prime Minister to answer a question that is put to them.

I genuinely can't remember the last time I watched TM answer a question honestly.
 
Lot of interesting stuff in that poll. Tories failing to unify the Leave vote as they have been elsewhere with Labour taking much more of the Tory remainers (Jippy is obviously not an outlier), Labour's support much more uniform across the age groups (other than 65+ where it's the same) so less reliance on turnout, and Sadiq is MASSIVELY popular still.
Yep and if that figure is right then it will be the best Labour have performed in London since 1997.
 
Stop wittering on about your mother, it's boring. One experience within the NHS isn't representative of an entire system, irrespective of how much that may piss you off.
She died in that hospital

Would you like to hear the story about my dad dying in a nursing home? Good care there, 900 quid a week, that's what good care costs
 
Yeah...maybe May's way of doing it is just a bit weird, or something? I dunno, she just seems so awkward while doing anything...and as I type, she literally walks off stage the second she's finished talking.:lol:
Fixed.
 
he had some ideas, even if they were shite.. and no one would allow them to get passed. She offers feck all.
He also made a load of vague bollocks promises about how he was the only one who could fix things without ever saying how.
 
She definitely has an awkwardness that's takes the worst of Miliband and the worst of Brown and forms some kind of super being of awkwardness. If she was Labour she'd be at about -50.

Coverage in the papers might be a bit different too.
 
She died in that hospital

Would you like to hear the story about my dad dying in a nursing home? Good care there, 900 quid a week, that's what good care costs

People die in hospitals. Good care does not cost £900 a week. Good care is given all throughout the NHS, even in spite of the austerity measures that have stretched the service.

Everybody has a story. There's always going to be negative aspects to given care. Somebody, usually a relative, will always argue that more could have been done. However, you repeatedly suggest that the NHS is some gutless, almost unprofessional and dangerous service that lags behind the rest of Europe. That simply isn't true. It's already (quite rightly) been pointed out to you that our emergency care is up there with the best in the world. Or does you bias (or anger, perhaps) deny that?

Our hospitals are full of skilled, talented people that work their fingers to the bone. That there are issues is not the through the fault of they or the care they provide.

Best of all, you think the privatisation will solve it? These wonderful, abhorrently expensive, private health services feast on people like you. They fecking love you. As if all us idiots who may or may not already be struggling to buy food should be jampacked into some healthcare scheme in which (you bet) we need to pay for. That'll solve it...
 
She died in that hospital

Would you like to hear the story about my dad dying in a nursing home? Good care there, 900 quid a week, that's what good care costs

Mate, sorry about your mum and your dad.

But honestly your individual sad stories are not going to change the fact that the NHS is a fantastic service.
Nor are you the only person with a sad story.
Nor are there no sad stories in private healthcare, or other healthcare solutions throughout the world.

We're not trying to mourn with you, you need to move on at some point.
 
Far as I can see the Liberals seem to be the most honest on the NHS. They're not saying it needs more money but you won't have to pay for it, someone else will, not saying we can sort it with yet another reorganisation, they're just honestly saying it needs more money and let's put up income tax to pay for it.
 
Yep, spot on, nhs lags way behind. Why do you think that is? I have given you the answer many times but want to hear your own

Because resources are wasted and the government have been squeezing the service of appropriate funding for the best part of a decade.

Specialist cancer care clearly isn't where it needs to be, however, emergency care is great. The former needs more funding, which one of the biggest economies in the world can rectify.
 
Some of you have been properly duped. Tory plan = under-fund the NHS to make people think it is failing and needs privatization. It's been blatantly obvious this is their plan for years,
 
Is the term "welfarism" used much in Tory speeches ? Because my impression is that their objective is to diminish the welfare state as much as possible.
 
Do you still believe this TH? Or has the campaign won you over a bit?
Both.

He's won me over a lot with the campaign, which has been run and managed excellently, mainly through the strength of character of Jeremy being compared against May, and the media's prior portrayal of him. The manifesto has also clearly been a huge success, both providing a clear differentiation between the two main parties, and largely setting the agenda of the campaign. For the first campaign since 2005(? earlier?) it's been Labour driving the discussion points of the election. The party also appears to be doing well in winning over Green and Lib Dem voters it previously lost. All of these points are also things the Corbyn leadership campaign promised, so you have to say that he's achieving a great deal of what he promised to. I definitely underestimated him this election.

I'm also 90% sure I'm still voting Lib Dem. Even if it hasn't quite been the promised Brexit election, Brexit is the issue of the day. He totally failed with that campaign, and if he gained power, I've little confidence in his ability to successfully manage it. In terms of this election, it seems clear that Labour's strategy of agreeing to mostly follow May's Brexit line has worked, and largely negated it as an election issue. But I only see economic disaster from a Labour government agreeing to Brexit at the same time as implementing an anti-businsss program and significantly raising corporation taxes (I realise, only to 2010's level). I don't want a race to the bottom but I don't want us to leave the single market and disincentive UK investment at the same time. I'm also nervous about the prospect of anti-capitalist McDonnell and Corbyn being tasked with negotiating our replacement trade agreement with the largest trading block in the world, though the competency of May's team doesn't ease my worries here.

Locally, my decision is helped by the awful Kate Hoey being our current MP, and the Lib Dems seemingly making it one of their main target seats. Ignoring anything else, she deserves the boot for pursuing a Brexit vote in the constituency with the highest remain vote in the country. UKIP aren't standing here so as to help her chances ffs. I'd love my vote to contribute to throwing her out of parliament. That said, Labour seem as strong as ever in London and I'm sure they'll hold onto the seat. Bookies put the odds at 1/5. In that case, hopefully my vote contributes to the cause of the next non-Corbyn leadership candidate. :boring:

Sorry for the essay, you asked.
 
Some of you have been properly duped. Tory plan = under-fund the NHS to make people think it is failing and needs privatization. It's been blatantly obvious this is their plan for years,
Yep. Under fund, then privitize in order to "save" a failing service that's failing solely due to under investment. Straight from the neoliberal playbook.
 
She may not have any policies, but Corbyn said he hates the queen in 287BC, so who you gonna trust?
Breaking News - UKIP leader attacks Corbyn.

UKIP leader Paul Nuttal has launched a staggering attack on the Labour leader, calling him a disgracefully traitor and friends of
Amenhotep I. The UKIP leader is quoted as saying - ''I was there at said mud hunt in the summer of 287BC, when the tree hugger lefty traitor denounce his support for the yet unfounded British monarchy, I was so appalled and distressed at the time that my mate Demetrius I of Macedon or old Dewey as the lads call him had to escort me away. The British people will not vote for man who I have personally witness called Amenhotep I a friend, gargle gargle immigration immigration gargle gargle ''

More to follow soon..............
 
They've been privatizing it step by step at the same time, don't forget, the Naylor Report is going to be one giant leap for torykind to get it where they want it to be.
 
Transcript of a May interview:

Two visits in six weeks to one of the country's most marginal constituencies – is she getting worried?

"I'm very clear that this is a crucial election for this country."

Plymouth is feeling the effects of military cuts. Will she guarantee to protect the city from further pain?

"I'm very clear that Plymouth has a proud record of connection with the armed forces."

How will your Brexit plan make Plymouth better off?

"I think there is a better future ahead for Plymouth and for the whole of the UK."

Will you promise to sort out our transport links?

"I'm very clear that connectivity is hugely important for Plymouth and the South West generally."



Read more at http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/thr...0363961-detail/story.html#eTLiw3ff0Vmx79S3.99
 
It's worth noting that, despite that going viral, her answers were actually much longer than was put down in text (watch the video). Still basically contentless, but they weren't that clipped.
 
Both.

He's won me over a lot with the campaign, which has been run and managed excellently, mainly through the strength of character of Jeremy being compared against May, and the media's prior portrayal of him. The manifesto has also clearly been a huge success, both providing a clear differentiation between the two main parties, and largely setting the agenda of the campaign. For the first campaign since 2005(? earlier?) it's been Labour driving the discussion points of the election. The party also appears to be doing well in winning over Green and Lib Dem voters it previously lost. All of these points are also things the Corbyn leadership campaign promised, so you have to say that he's achieving a great deal of what he promised to. I definitely underestimated him this election.

I'm also 90% sure I'm still voting Lib Dem. Even if it hasn't quite been the promised Brexit election, Brexit is the issue of the day. He totally failed with that campaign, and if he gained power, I've little confidence in his ability to successfully manage it. In terms of this election, it seems clear that Labour's strategy of agreeing to mostly follow May's Brexit line has worked, and largely negated it as an election issue. But I only see economic disaster from a Labour government agreeing to Brexit at the same time as implementing an anti-businsss program and significantly raising corporation taxes (I realise, only to 2010's level). I don't want a race to the bottom but I don't want us to leave the single market and disincentive UK investment at the same time. I'm also nervous about the prospect of anti-capitalist McDonnell and Corbyn being tasked with negotiating our replacement trade agreement with the largest trading block in the world, though the competency of May's team doesn't ease my worries here.

Locally, my decision is helped by the awful Kate Hoey being our current MP, and the Lib Dems seemingly making it one of their main target seats. Ignoring anything else, she deserves the boot for pursuing a Brexit vote in the constituency with the highest remain vote in the country. UKIP aren't standing here so as to help her chances ffs. I'd love my vote to contribute to throwing her out of parliament. That said, Labour seem as strong as ever in London and I'm sure they'll hold onto the seat. Bookies put the odds at 1/5. In that case, hopefully my vote contributes to the cause of the next non-Corbyn leadership candidate. :boring:

Sorry for the essay, you asked.

Thanks for the response! I do find it encouraging that people are coming around to him, now they've finally had a chance to see him in action without the press' overwhelming spin on everything (despite there best efforts now).

For 2 years his characters basically been assassinated, and I think now that people can finally see the substance behind it they have warmed to him to a degree.
 
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It's worth noting that, despite that going viral, her answers were actually much longer than was put down in text (watch the video). Still basically contentless, but they weren't that clipped.
Yeah the video isn't as bad as this 'transcript' makes it look. She gave no answers beyond what's in the 'transcript' but managed to use more words in doing so. I think the journalists are becoming properly fed up with her though, her inability to interact with them makes them obsolete.