General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
Point me out one time that "Brexit" was even mentioned in a question. There were questions where answers overlapped with Brexit obviously because it's such a huge topic but not one single direct question requiring hard detail from all about all.
Not arguing you on that point at all, and of course everything is affected by brexit anyway. To say the BBC are pro-Labour is laughable however.
 
Yes I did, it was like 7 parties wanting attention. Very little substantive criticism of each other from the Left Leaning it was more messy than anything.
it was messy, but pretty much every time some one tried to speak they where interrupted with someone disagreeing with them and questioning the other parties stance...... it did look like kids squabbling at times
 
Glad I didn't have to put up with May's gurning gargoyle face for 90 mins TBH.

She looks like she should sell cheese for a living.
 
Not talking about specific policies, more about how they all behave in general. I've done my research, thanks.
Who mentioned anything about personality?
?

I'm not trying to have a go(Sorry if it came across like that)but there was a clear differences in behaviour, for a start one of people up there was just being a racist for an hour.
 
Typically sore lefty.

:lol:

There's not much else I can say to you. I have no idea what you've read, or where you've read it, to come to that conclusion, but it's simply incongruous with reality and sums up the lack of knowledge both of the EU as a whole, and the Brexit process, that has sadly characterised the debate over the last year.

I'm not going to be the one to sit here and argue against your delusions, it's already painful enough to read you posts without encouraging you to do it more, it's just sad that you can be wrong with such confidence.
 
Am I the only one who thinks Farron's done alright in this? Just about finished.
 
Not arguing you on that point at all, and of course everything is affected by brexit anyway. To say the BBC are pro-Labour is laughable however.
And we never got into any depth on Brexit, just a little immigration is good here and security is good there.

Just happened the entire audience were giving raucous applause to even the most inane Corbyn comment from the opening minute and everyone else was being cut off by the moderator?
 
Nuttall's defence of Trump's plans on climate change is that he's protecting American workers, and that India/China are bad too. Moron.
 
Was hard to argue with the much of what he said tbf, just comes across as thoroughly unlikable to me.

He's a weird one. I struggle to take him even remotely seriously and he's a bit of a caricature, but I also find him difficult to dislike. Maybe because I doubt he'll be anywhere near government anyway.
 
Rudd is 'disappointed' in Trump pulling out of the Paris Agreement. Oh do feck off.
 
And we never got into any depth on Brexit, just a little immigration is good here and security is good there.

Just happened the entire audience were giving raucous applause to even the most inane Corbyn comment from the opening minute and everyone else was being cut off by the moderator?

:confused::confused:

The audience complaints are one thing, although Corbyn's policies have always polled far better than he has done and it's hardly a stretch to imagine that more people agree with them than don't, but the moderator on several occasions stepped in when Rudd was struggling (like on Saudi Arabia) and pressed Corbyn for answers more than others.
 
More a critique of procedure, but id don't think that the SNP and Plaid should have been permitted to answer questions on policies pertaining to devolved powers. I'd also advocate the arming of the moderator with a cane or ball gag; it would soon make the proceedings more dignified at any rate.
 
Just watched the highlights of the debate, by god it's a fecking shambles, no credible leaders, no credible party, a fecking joke.
 
He's a weird one. I struggle to take him even remotely seriously and he's a bit of a caricature, but I also find him difficult to dislike. Maybe because I doubt he'll be anywhere near government anyway.
I can't tell if the bake off joke was a good bit of self awareness or utterly stupid.
 
I can tell if the bake off joke was a bit of self awareness or utterly stupid.

I thought it was alright. He knows he's in dodgy dad humour territory and kind of basked in it. The comment about Guardian readers definitely demonstrated a tad of self-awareness, I think.
 
:confused::confused:

The audience complaints are one thing, although Corbyn's policies have always polled far better than he has done and it's hardly a stretch to imagine that more people agree with them than don't, but the moderator on several occasions stepped in when Rudd was struggling (like on Saudi Arabia) and pressed Corbyn for answers more than others.
Actually I thought she stepped in on the Saudi Arabia thing before Rudd had a chance to deliver an answer, making her look much worse than if she'd had a chance to parry back as she did with everything else that was thrown at her. Worse was when the moderator cut the Green Party speaker off midway through her impassioned defence of freedom of movement and Tim Farron when going into detail on the second referendum, almost like she had something against going too heavily into issues that highlighted Corbyn's previous dormancy.

In these things getting increased speech time by being pushed for an answer is a blessing.
 
More a critique of procedure, but id don't think that the SNP and Plaid should have been permitted to answer questions on policies pertaining to devolved powers. I'd also advocate the arming of the moderator with a cane or ball gag; it would soon make the proceedings more dignified at any rate.

More to the point, if you allow Plaid and the SNP there (and UKIP for some reason – yes they poll well but they don't have an MP unlike every other party there) why aren't you also allowing Sinn Fein and the DUP?
 
I'd probably be able to take Farron more seriously if he didn't seem like an interim Preston manager who somehow waggles his way into an extended contract but then retroactively gets sacked seven games later after a 4-1 defeat away to Barnsley on a Tuesday in mid-November.
 
The most notable thing about that debate was May not bothering to turn up. Can't see how that isn't a positive for Corbyn.
 
Actually I thought she stepped in on the Saudi Arabia thing before Rudd had a chance to deliver an answer, making her look much worse than if she'd had a chance to parry back as she did with everything else that was thrown at her. Worse was when the moderator cut the Green Party speaker off midway through her impassioned defence of freedom of movement and Tim Farron when going into detail on the second referendum.

In these things getting increased speech time by being pushed for an answer is a blessing.

Au contraire, her defence to it was 'it is good for business'. It was one of her worst moments in what was a reasonably solid, on message, performance for her.
 
Been out all night and that's waaaaaay to many pages to be catching up on.

Cliff notes, anyone?
 
Anybody else getting bombarded by these insidious wretched adds on various sites like Youtube from the conservatives with really dark undertones about Corbin?

what a bunch of shit cnuts

Yes, and some of them even spell his name correctly.