Gary Neville

Also Gary Neville is utilizing the same social media to attack the players and sour public opinion against them.

Half the posters here didnt even know who was where until he broadcasted it.

No shit, gary like the most of us wants the snakepit cleared out.
 
Sick of this absolute fecking clown, why is he sticking his 2 cents in? I genuinely question whether he wants the club to be successful, he almost feels like a saboteur at this point.

Absolute Sky sell out. If he knew a thing about Ten Hag he'd know that his philosophy is the closest thing to Pep's football that GNev w*nks over every week.

Wow what a toxic place the United fan base and twitter has become. If you do not agree with MUFC OK, you are not allowed an opinion.

So you are an expert of Ten Hag? You watch every Ajax game do you?
 
What is there to like about Poch, exactly? One got cup run that didn't even come with a cup? Next season they imploded, he was fired. PSG look average. What is it he does well?
 
We should never have aspired to be a counter attacking team and Ole thought he could just rock up this season and play free flowing, high pressing football. That's why he got exposed so badly and why we now have a squad of players not fit for purpose.

The odd thing is that Ole - based on his own, initial statements - didn't want us to be a counter attacking team.

But he did feck all to actually implement any kind of systematic pressing game.

He also did feck all to improve basic fitness/endurance and so forth - which was another thing he aimed to do (he explicitly stated that he wanted United to be the hardest working team in the league).
 
It was the series that follows Salford that's put me off him. He's a bit of a ruthless cnut over there.

Tbh the whole class of 92 can feck off. Bar Nicky Butt. He's the only who doesn't seem to be full of himself.
I assume you're not counting Scholes as he wasn't actually class of 92. I haven't seen him pundit much but seems like a classy guy.
 
I assume you're not counting Scholes as he wasn't actually class of 92. I haven't seen him pundit much but seems like a classy guy.

He's been busy throwing rangnick under the bus whilst not saying a word against ole when we were getting hammered by all and sundry.
 
The odd thing is that Ole - based on his own, initial statements - didn't want us to be a counter attacking team.

But he did feck all to actually implement any kind of systematic pressing game.

He also did feck all to improve basic fitness/endurance and so forth - which was another thing he aimed to do (he explicitly stated that he wanted United to be the hardest working team in the league).
I mean he wanted a lot of things, trouble is he thought he could wish it into existence on the back of vibes alone. Whereas the reality was him delegating all the training sessions and match prep to amateur coaches, while telling the players go out and enjoy themselves and give it a right go. Its no surprise that he was found out.
 
I haven't seen him pundit much but seems like a classy guy.

Apart from his odd habit of sucking his daughter's toes (or whatever it was).

I haven't seen much of him as a pundit either, to be fair (I tend to ignore all punditry these days - I just watch the game, preferably with no commentary) - but from what have I picked up, Scholes seems rather dull (not unlike how he came across in interviews as a player). Not that dull equals clueless - but yeah.
 
Sick of this absolute fecking clown, why is he sticking his 2 cents in? I genuinely question whether he wants the club to be successful, he almost feels like a saboteur at this point.

Absolute Sky sell out. If he knew a thing about Ten Hag he'd know that his philosophy is the closest thing to Pep's football that GNev w*nks over every week.

That is a pretty vitriolic reaction to someone saying he has a slight preference for one candidate over another. I would state that my choice would be ETH but I can understand people leaning towards Poch because he has a track record in the PL and it is easy to see that with just a little more backing he could genuinely challenge for a title but more specifically he is less likely to flop. ETH is the big swing for the fences, if he is everything we hope he is then he could indeed be our answer to Pep and build a team that can dominate but he is much more of an unknown quantity with a much bigger potential to be a bust. 10 years of failure can make you risk averse and so it is a perfectly understandable preference even if it is not the choice you or I would make.
 
Sick of this absolute fecking clown, why is he sticking his 2 cents in? I genuinely question whether he wants the club to be successful, he almost feels like a saboteur at this point.

Absolute Sky sell out. If he knew a thing about Ten Hag he'd know that his philosophy is the closest thing to Pep's football that GNev w*nks over every week.
Uh he's a pundit and a club legend. He's entitled to his own opinion.
 
He's been busy throwing rangnick under the bus whilst not saying a word against ole when we were getting hammered by all and sundry.
He does seem like a bit of a hater, everyone knows about his nasty streak, the bit I've seen him talk he does seem more negatively oriented, not one to gush at length over a player I imagine.

Personally I think the players are the problem, though Ralf's points total isn't bad. I'm much more inclined to clear them out and keep Ralf. *Someone* needs to drag us into the modern pressing game, why not the Ralf? Is only until the end of the season anyway, the players clearly are still dealing with the basics of pressing. Really all they need to worry about is getting fit enough to press for 100 minutes.
 
That is a pretty vitriolic reaction to someone saying he has a slight preference for one candidate over another. I would state that my choice would be ETH but I can understand people leaning towards Poch because he has a track record in the PL and it is easy to see that with just a little more backing he could genuinely challenge for a title but more specifically he is less likely to flop. ETH is the big swing for the fences, if he is everything we hope he is then he could indeed be our answer to Pep and build a team that can dominate but he is much more of an unknown quantity with a much bigger potential to be a bust. 10 years of failure can make you risk averse and so it is a perfectly understandable preference even if it is not the choice you or I would make.

Its a weird one, alot of fans taking it personally when one does not prefer Ten Hag to Poch or anyone else.

I mean people are acting as if he is going to come in and magically make us challengers or what? He is not that far ahead of Poch, he is 2 years older and his achievement's have only come at Ajax whereas Poch has done well from Espanyol, Southampton and Spurs.

The PSG job is a very difficult job to rate someone on.
 
Don’t understand any animosity towards him. People are so harsh and quick to judge these days. He’s mostly correct about things and explains his thought process well. I don’t agree with him on it needing to be Poch but that doesn’t make me dislike him.
 

Thanks - well, that's more of the same, really: old school, "brutal", the idea that we need someone with "bollocks" more than anything.

Simeone is undoubtedly a very good manager (he obviously has more going for him than being "brutal") - but...nah. The fact that he's an unrealistic target notwithstanding (which Neville seems to realize, to be fair), I don't see him as a good fit at all.
 
Apart from his odd habit of sucking his daughter's toes (or whatever it was).

I haven't seen much of him as a pundit either, to be fair (I tend to ignore all punditry these days - I just watch the game, preferably with no commentary) - but from what have I picked up, Scholes seems rather dull (not unlike how he came across in interviews as a player). Not that dull equals clueless - but yeah.
Yeah, he does seem dull, not sure why they insist on putting him on TV.
 
Thanks - well, that's more of the same, really: old school, "brutal", the idea that we need someone with "bollocks" more than anything.

Simeone is undoubtedly a very good manager (he obviously has more going for him than being "brutal") - but...nah. The fact that he's an unrealistic target notwithstanding (which Neville seems to realize, to be fair), I don't see him as a good fit at all.
I mean it was the fact that Neville insisted on this after the Atletico defeat, which just comes across as lazy knee-jerkism, nevermind the fact his dour style of football would quickly alienate the fans. Its just poor journalism IMO.
 
Neville's opinions annoy me at times because he often gets very near to being right but misses it very slightly, or he pretty transparently applies double-standards when it comes to talking about people he's mates with. Him wanting Poch isn't one of those times, it's just a pretty mundane case of a high profile fan having an opinion I disagree with.

His views on players being out-and-about in public after a major loss is partially a case of him applying his own standards to others selectively, and partially a case of being out-of-touch with the reality of modern football/the media. I'm sure some of his teammates back in the day were out and about doing things they enjoyed in their free time after losses, even if he wasn't. The difference is that 99% of the other people at those events didn't have smartphones and there wasn't the same blanket media coverage of every sporting or cultural event/figure that there is nowadays. For a Premier League player in the late-90s, going on holiday and watching some sport abroad during the International Break after a bad loss would be 'keeping a low profile'.

Good point
 
I don’t agree with him on it needing to be Poch but that doesn’t make me dislike him.

Same.

I don't dislike him at all - in fact, I find him on the whole rather palatable compared to most football pundits.

He has obvious flaws (who doesn't?) and biases - and I certainly don't always agree with him - but I don't dislike him.
 
A lot of people have jumped on him about the attending public events but what he is trying to hint at is the celebrity culture at the club. No he doesn’t want them to stay home but there is no doubt that most of our players are just far too much into the celebrity image building process . Just look at City & Liverpool who have been hugely successful and see how little you see them publicly. Are there no cameras around them ?

I'm not saying you're wrong, but the only place I see anything about the players out and about in public is on here so I'd never see anything about what City or Liverpool's players get up to.
 
I mean it was the fact that Neville insisted on this after the Atletico defeat, which just comes across as lazy knee-jerkism, nevermind the fact his dour style of football would quickly alienate the fans. Its just poor journalism IMO.

This is a key point - of course.

He's built his reputation on an underdog approach.

Great look for Atlético Madrid - not so much for Manchester United.
 
Can't lie, i do enjoy when he comes out ripping the charlatans and snakes we have for players.
 
What has Neville said that's so bad?
Nothing.

But it's always the same these days. The polarising effect of the internet means that anybody who doesn't 100% agree with you is a monster and all their opinions are worthless.

I don't agree with Neville. I'd much prefer Ten Hag. But the United board is clearly split, so it's hardly some inexcusable blasphemy to want Poch instead.
 
Sick of this absolute fecking clown, why is he sticking his 2 cents in? I genuinely question whether he wants the club to be successful, he almost feels like a saboteur at this point.

Absolute Sky sell out. If he knew a thing about Ten Hag he'd know that his philosophy is the closest thing to Pep's football that GNev w*nks over every week.

What a strange, unnecessary, over-aggressive post.
 
Sick of this absolute fecking clown, why is he sticking his 2 cents in? I genuinely question whether he wants the club to be successful, he almost feels like a saboteur at this point.

Absolute Sky sell out. If he knew a thing about Ten Hag he'd know that his philosophy is the closest thing to Pep's football that GNev w*nks over every week.
Chill your little booties, you massive wimp.

I'm all in on Ten Hag and have been for a while, but a large part of me wants the club to pass on him just to see how fecking psychotic some of these nut jobs actually get.
 
he just has too much to say and will give an opinion on anything. You could ask Neville about the Han Dynasty and he'd have an opinion on who messed it all up
He's talking about the next United manager! Of course he should be allowed an opinion on that.
 
he just has too much to say and will give an opinion on anything. You could ask Neville about the Han Dynasty and he'd have an opinion on who messed it all up

You don't have to read it. People are entitled to their opinions..
 
Is there a club with fans like ours who dislike/hate ex players and legends so much? It's embarrassing at times some of the stick the likes of him, Keane, Rio, Scholes, Rooney etc get.
 
Is there any other big club who had two ex players (Rio and Neville) campaigning to give a laughably underqualified interim manager the permanent job without following due process or using any common sense? And as a result setting the club back 5 years...

They got excited like a lot of us did when Ole went on that run, plus your statement has absolutely nothing to do with what i said.