Exactly why I like it here too.
Gary Neville
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Exactly why I like it here too.
He keeps talking..
To be fair to Neville he always gave his all and he genuinely cared about the club and how his performances affected the success of the club.
A bad loss would've affected his mood and negatively impacted his weekend as a result. You could see how much he and the rest of the players cared as they'd almost always come back and beat the next team we played.
I understand how someone with that mentality would look at the players today and feel contempt towards them swanning around living the high life days after yetbanother loss in a disgraceful season.
They don't have to put their life on hold, but I do agree with him that maybe they should keep their heads down and not draw attention to themselves on social media.
A bad loss would've affected his mood and negatively impacted his weekend as a result. You could see how much he and the rest of the players cared as they'd almost always come back and beat the next team we played.
I understand how someone with that mentality would look at the players today and feel contempt towards them swanning around living the high life days after yetbanother loss in a disgraceful season.
They don't have to put their life on hold, but I do agree with him that maybe they should keep their heads down and not draw attention to themselves on social media.
Had he been in their position he probably wouldn't have 'got on with his life' instead staying at home contemplating everything. He had a lot of drive but so did the others in his team.
Yup. It’s strange to me the way so many players from that team get slagged off on here (other than Giggs, who deserves it) for basically showing the same traits that are so desperately lacking in the shower of useless fannies that pull on the United shirt every week.
He doesnt help matters though.constantly moaning at the fragile bunch we have
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If you talk as much as Neville, you're bound to spout a lot of nonsense.
How can someone holiday quietly in this day and age? He literally posted a pic of Rashford sitting in a crowd watching a boxing match ffs. Is that loud? Are the pictures even that widespread outside of Utd fan accounts etc?
Guys, you can only have fun if you're winning.
Neville and the players during his time cared about the club and felt every defeat. The current bunch couldn't care less if they lose they get to live the high life without consequence. Agree completely with neville and carragher on this one.
I think Neville opinions are important contributions to the United discourse. He’s more expert than us and he wants the best for United. My impression is that he’s an honest person, maybe because I mostly agree with him.
What he said was wrong ? I don’t get it. On one side you agree that our players are a problem, they leak the stories, they don’t put an effort etc. which I agree with and on the other side you lot are mocking Neville who is telling them to keep it a bit down after having the worst season in recent memory individually and collectively. When you see them pics of that lot wearing chains of their initials and whatnot, posting pics like they are dogs bollocks, don’t you see the problem ? On the one side you lot complain about Brand United and on the other you find no problem at all with these players who are all about the brand on their social media. Well, this is the reason this club has become a brand than a football club.
Nothing is helping the matters though and for a good while. Ole’s mollycoddling didn’t help either. At some point you have to call spade a spade. What are you scared of ? That if you moan at them, they would down tools ? or are you scared that some of the players you like would leave the club regardless of how poor they have been ?
Usually agree with him more often than not but he’s having a total nightmare with this holiday stuff.
Neville should just accept it was an emotionally charged comment and he was wrong, rather than digging a deeper and deeper hole.
Carragher backing his mate…
Youre making it sound like he doesn't believe what he's saying and he's defending neville just because they're friends.
I agree with Neville. I personally think they should spend their free time in a dark room whipping their own backs bloody until they are back in the Champions League.
Exactly this. It’s hard to imagine for most because these guys probably figure in the top 1 percentile of their profession and to achieve that and stay there takes the kind of mental self torture that would seem impossible standards by most everyday joes.
Who's Gary Neville referring to?
(Other than Avram Glazer who I spotted on TV at the F1)
(Other than Avram Glazer who I spotted on TV at the F1)
It's the reason he made it at United. He wasn't particularly talented but that drive was probably the single biggest reason he became a successful footballer.
Gary Neville is a loudmouth whose ability to think falls far short of his desire to talk.
The man of the people act is all bollocks. He's a multimillionaire property developer who got his PR company to join forces with other property developers to get the workers of Manchester back into the city at the end of November 2020 in on the eve of the biggest wave of the pandemic. He's a greedy hypocrite.
The man of the people act is all bollocks. He's a multimillionaire property developer who got his PR company to join forces with other property developers to get the workers of Manchester back into the city at the end of November 2020 in on the eve of the biggest wave of the pandemic. He's a greedy hypocrite.
Its different for Neville and Carragher. They loved their clubs. They felt defeat like a fan. Lineker has no affinity to any club. If he lost he didnt care. Clearly.
Why would rangnick be even interested in cricket in the slightest ?
Linekar was a fantastic striker but he just didn't have the same will to win. He'll never be able to empathise with Neville.
I guess it's most likely he just happened to be in Barbados and got invited? Germany do have an international side though so it's possible he is interested in cricket.
Marcus Rashford was in Dubai with Brandon Williams watching boxing, Rangnick was in Barbados and assume someone was at the UFC
I think we all know what Gary is saying that when playing and performing like dog shite whilst being paid a fortune then flaunting where and what you are doing.
Additionally considering what’s going on in Ukraine and over here that many people will be facing fuel and food poverty and that some over paid stars flaunt their wealth posting images of jetting here there and everywhere with selfies from private jets dripping in expensive jewellery etc is where is sticks in my throat
I’m not saying don’t enjoy your wealth but have a bit of common sense
Additionally considering what’s going on in Ukraine and over here that many people will be facing fuel and food poverty and that some over paid stars flaunt their wealth posting images of jetting here there and everywhere with selfies from private jets dripping in expensive jewellery etc is where is sticks in my throat
I’m not saying don’t enjoy your wealth but have a bit of common sense
It’s hard for me to disagree with this, when I played football even semi regularly with mates, losing would bother me no end and it’d constantly be on my mind. I can only imagine how much worse that would be if I was a professional. I certainly don’t think I’d be able to switch off and go on holiday or anything.
Maybe when you’ve done it once it becomes easier to do? I think the issue is it’s not been shown to have been an effective reset or recharge for players in your squad.
I’m not sure, I know our players do it too but it’s far more palatable when they’re winning.
Nope. I doubt it becomes easier. If you’re in a job that gives you regular, highly intense feedback and you become good at it, I don’t feel it’ll get easier. Even for other high performing jobs, folks who are used to having 5-6 bad outcomes a year stew a lot after those bad days rather than just get used to it. I know people who are like that. Even if it’s circumstances out of their control they’re angry. Even if you take them out to take minds “off” of things, they’re sulks
Probably that tough guy Maguire.
In all seriousness, I'm not really that bothered what they get up to.
Gary seems to be judging everyone by his own standards, and I respect his passion and love for the club, but I think at this point it's a bit naiive to think this group of players are obsessed with winning and can never switch themselves off from it.
Those are the standards that are required to be maintained if one wants to win silverware regularly.
THIS./
The vitriol in peoples contempt has crossed a line & this narrative worsens the issue. Where was this energy when Chelsea downed tools for Lampard & previous managers before him? The problem was s the inconsistency, he’s too close to the club, in the fact he loves it, to show any measure in his points.
Take any one player from this squad & put them into the Top 3 squads & they’d assimilate, the problem is we’ve put a bunch of no marks together & called it a team. If we take this back a few steps when once has Neville called out OgS [who he along with others helped keep in his job far longer than he deserved] for putting together this rabble.
I’m not making it sound like anything. I literally just posted a tweet to an article which states Carragher responded to Lineker essentially backing up what Gary Neville was saying.
