Agreed
Gary Neville
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It’s more the way he tries to hard to be neutral when Carra is there not giving a feck.
It’s such a RAWK spirited thread this, don’t get it.
I bet RAWK says the opposite
Why on earth was he fined for that?
He was goading the opposition fans, wasn't he? They'd be concerned it could spark crowd trouble.
Diddums
Agreed. As annoying as he can be on commentary it’s nothing compared to the negativity and hate the team gets in the match day thread from United fans.
Agreed on his commitment to Utd. Good host of Overlap.
He is, however, a total hypocrite when it comes to owners. Happy to call out Glazers at every opportunity (fair enough) but never does it when it comes to his ‘partner’ Peter Lim who has mismanaged Valencia so badly on and off the pitch that they seemingly have a half finished stadium.
The abuse he gets is silly
Yeah it's really odd that he talks so much about the owners of the club he supports, that play in the league that he is employed to talk about and are shown live on the channel he works on almost every week; as opposed to talking about the owner of a football club in Spain that are occasionally shown on, checks notes, "Premier Sports" in the UK.
Fair enough to call out the Glazers but maybe understand you might be a hypocrite again (Hislop et al had his number on HIGNY about the Qatar World Cup) as your own club in Salford is bankrolled by Peter Lim who has been as bad if not a worse owner at Valencia than the Glazers have at Utd. Some people might call it self awareness.
Oh you're actually going to double down on it. Manchester United conversation is incredibly relevant to Sky Sports in the UK. Valencia conversation is not in the slightest bit relevant to Sky Sports in the UK.
If you must insist on comparing the two, Lim took over a club who were heavily in debt and essentially kept the lights on at the time but hasn't really improved anything in ten years. The Glazers took over a debt free football club, immediately pushed their own debt onto the football club where it still sits nearly 20 years later and have cost the football club circa £2bn across their ownership. I'd say the spotlight is on the right one really.
I think you might be underestimating the depth of hatred there is for Lim in Valencia. Walk out by fans during Girona match earlier this year etc. He was offered multiple times what he paid for the club some years back but turned it down and treats fans with utter contempt.
Maybe I put more weight on what Mario Kempes (club legend, world cup top scorer and winner, south American player of the year) who has called for Lim to leave asap. Kempes was on another level to Gary as a footballer.
Lim funds Salford where Gary et all are actively involved. It is as relevant as highlighting Gary’s hypocrisy about giving manager’s time at Utd when he was hire and fire at Salford.
Loved him as a player (bar the 5-5 at Hawthorns where he spoilt a great day out). As previously stated he is a great host of the overlap (very self depreciating) but he can be a total hypocrite. Hislop and Merton showed him to be lacking in self awareness when it came to putting his monetary interest first versus calling out the Qataris.
I am fully aware but equally don't give a toss about what hatred there is for him in the context of this conversation, as I said he hasn't improved things at all but took over during a time of genuine peril and kept the lights on. That alone makes him a significantly better owner than those who take over a successful business, front load it with debt and then cost that business an amount that would put most similar businesses out of business just for the pleasure of being owned by them.
I'm not really sure what is difficult to understand about Manchester United being relevant content for Sky Sports and Valencia not being relevant content to Sky Sports but there you go.
Couple of other fact checks; Lim did part fund Salford (as did the other owners) but is no longer involved with the club and I'm not sure how Neville spoilt Ferguson's last game when he'd retired over two years earlier.
Fair cop on year it was two years earlier at the Hawthorns and Dorrans was running rings round him.
To say Lim ‘…hasn’t improved things’ is a bit of an understatement. Lim has on occasions allowed Mendes free reign over the playing squad at Valencia. The Glazers bought Utd on the cheap, ran the commercial side very well, loaded the club with debt so stadium was not upgraded, made some shocking football appointments post Fergie but never ‘outsourced’ the playing squad to an agent.
Valencia’s stadium is in much worse condition than Old Trafford. Tebas is repeatedly asked if Lim is an appropriate owner for a laliga side. The Glazers have given Ineos control of the footballing side and a new stadium is coming. Let’s see what state Valencia end up in under Lim’s ownership.
The point still stands that Gary can be an absolute hypocrite.
Love Neville the United player but Neville the pundit is an annoying twat.... Not that hard to compute
I do like Gary. His heart is in the right place. His punditry is fine and he’s created a great Overlap channel. My only slight irritation is that when anything is being discussed and opinions being shared…he tries to convince everyone his opinion is the right one. Apparently can’t always accept that others have different opinions on things.
I don't get the annoying angle, he's just a more pessimistic sort of fan.
He might say annoying things from time to time, but so do I, depending on who's listening, and so does everyone on this board
He might say annoying things from time to time, but so do I, depending on who's listening, and so does everyone on this board
Used to think he spoke quite well on some current affairs. Showing himself up for what he really is here. Load of whataboutery waffle.
Gary should have a marmite logo on his shirt, he's that kind of fella.
When he first got into punditry I thought he was brilliant to be honest.
Over time he has changed somewhat and can get a bit annoying, working for Sky Sports these days will do that to you.
He is better on The Overlap because its his own YT show as far as i know, although i think Sky now have their grubby hands on it.
When he first got into punditry I thought he was brilliant to be honest.
Over time he has changed somewhat and can get a bit annoying, working for Sky Sports these days will do that to you.
He is better on The Overlap because its his own YT show as far as i know, although i think Sky now have their grubby hands on it.
Isn't that like the vast majority of pundits? I don't remember ever hearing a pundit end their analysis with "but it's just my opinion and I might be wrong".
He's just a bit dim, I think. I don't think he's a bad person or even a bad pundit when it comes to specific things that he has learned throughout his career, but when he has to construct an argument, particularly on topics like that one where it is possible for two things to be simultaneously bad at the same time (Tory Cronyism and Starmer's love for gifts) he doesn't seem to possess the ability to deal with that.
You seem the same thing with his correct criticism of the Glazer's which often leaves him defending the indefensible when it comes to managers.
It's mainly this, across the board. Dim with a lack of self awareness. Not a bad guy, but not half as intelligent as he thinks he is.
wrong thread…couldn’t find one for Paul Scholes. But he doesn’t ever seem to be able to stop moaning about Utd. Just reading he’s suggested ‘ETH couldn’t wait to drop Maguire for DeLigt’
Like that’s a bad thing!
Like that’s a bad thing!
Did you know that Gary Neville never calls for a manager to be sacked.
Two bit hack job. Failed manager, terrible reader of the game, and hypocritical to boot. Would've been binned years ago if he wasn't what he is.
He’s not a United fan. He doesn’t represent us in any way, shape or form. A Sky mercenary who only cares about his own ‘brand’.
You are wrong about that. Hated him as a player. Why? He’s united through and through. Always will be.
He thinks he is being sensible and rational. What he is though is a complete pillock.
That's not being United through and through.
What relevance does that have to anything? He hasn’t been a player for 13 years.
Do you really think he doesn’t bleed united? He might be a terrible pundit who says things just to not look bias but he is a manc. Just look at him. Just look at his face during his playing years. It hasn’t changed. I respect him for that.
Loved him as a player but Christ has he gone way too far trying to be impartial that he's biased against us.
Also hated Carragher as a player but he speaks more sense about us than Gnev does.
Also hated Carragher as a player but he speaks more sense about us than Gnev does.
Can confirm that his face hasn't changed.
What a weird take from Neville.
A draw is the best of both worlds. It was yet another game that proves we're going nowhere under this manager and allows us to sack him, and we gained a point. We can sack him with the narrative of 5 games without a win. If he would have scraped a win it would have been a difficult one for the narrative, but a draw does absolutely nothing for Ten Hag.
He's such a bellend saying "no United fan wants to see Ten Hag sacked", why is he trying to speak for other people? It's also the complete opposite of true, judging by the polls the majority of fans would be delighted to see him go. I'm pretty sure the only ones who don't are virtue signalling.
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Oh, I thought that was a wind up.
Champagne socialist in for himself
Hasn't it been reported that the meetings today are not just about team performances but they are discussing the regeneration/new stadium plans hence why Neville is there as he has been involved with the planning.