Gary Neville

redcafe_reader said:
Manchester United legend btw

Maybe it's just me but I think his playing time at United is massively overrated. I have never felt safe enough with him and always think we should upgrade his position, even during the Treble era. Compare to other players of the team who are among the top of the world in their position, he's quite lackluster. Basically, for me he needs United much more than United needs him.

The less talk about his opportunist personality the better.
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He makes some dodgy comments as a pundit theres no doubt about that but he was a top quality right back and there is absolutely no overrating there. There is no way Fergie would have selected him over 600 times if he wasn`t a real quality right back. A huge part of Fergies United and a real Legend at the club.
 
Has he come out and apologised yet? It’s genuinely shameful.

I don’t care that he’s an ex player, someone at the club has to draw a line, you can’t make crap up to cause drama and get someone harassed on social media whilst also claiming to be an advocate for mental health. Ban him from OT for a year, let Sky use another commentator for our games at home. Criticism of players is fine but fabricating rumours for your own benefit is lowest of the low. Supposedly our biggest fan but he sure seems to loathe most of our players.
 
Neville is the same when he watches Salford. I don't think much of it, he's just that type

Do prefer when he's not commentating our games though, he tries too hard to not be seen as bias that he goes too far in favour of the other team. Like saying "it wasn't a foul" when one of our players has just been taken flat out
 
djembatheking said:
He makes some dodgy comments as a pundit theres no doubt about that but he was a top quality right back and there is absolutely no overrating there. There is no way Fergie would have selected him over 600 times if he wasn`t a real quality right back. A huge part of Fergies United and a real Legend at the club.
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He was the Henderson of Liverpool. Not much natural talent, but did what was asked of him and filled a certain role.
He was clearly the least talented of the class of 92 (well apart from his brother).
Fergie himself admitted that Neville achieved more than he originally thought.
 
united_99 said:
I hope ETH and our players refuse to speak to Neville or give him any interviews after all this.
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Always got the feeling that certain members of the class of 92 have been bitter since the time they wanted their mate Giggsy to get the managers job. No other pundits in the media continually slag off their former team like this lot do. They changed their tune when their mate Ole was manager but put all the blame on the players but any chance they get they put the boot in. Nevillle's took it to another level though. Don't know whether it's just because he's so up himself or that his constant support of Maguire fuels his hate of Bruno being captain. Bruno doesn't deserve this and the new ownership would be wise to keep their distance from over entitled ex players like him.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Neville is the same when he watches Salford. I don't think much of it, he's just that type

Do prefer when he's not commentating our games though, he tries too hard to not be seen as bias that he goes too far in favour of the other team. Like saying "it wasn't a foul" when one of our players has just been taken flat out
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Yeah exactly, one rule for us, another for the opposition. Fecking infuriating to listen to but ABU's watching probably like to hear it from him.
 
IRN-BRUno said:
He's clearly a very emotional watcher, you can see that from the Salford documentaries and it's obviously the case for our games too. That's fine, probably the majority of the fanbase are similar. But if you're commentating on our games you have to be able to rein it in at times.

Bruno is getting absolutely destroyed by the media and a large part of that is down to Gary saying he was asking to be subbed which was soon to be shown as utter nonsense. But comments like that stick, will get brought up all the time and have now led to a massive discussion everywhere about the captaincy which is completely unnecessary and another unwanted distraction for the team and manager.

If he can't become more rational in his commentary then he needs to stop doing our games.
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I think that should be a norm. There should be a neutral commentator commenting on games. Thinking out loud, they are supposed to comment on the game as it is being played not push in personal opinions into the game narrative.
 
united_99 said:
He was the Henderson of Liverpool. Not much natural talent, but did what was asked of him and filled a certain role.
He was clearly the least talented of the class of 92 (well apart from his brother).
Fergie himself admitted that Neville achieved more than he originally thought.
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He owed a great part of his career to having Beckham in front of him. Also we had a great squad where Fergie managed to get the lesser members to perform above their level within that team. Always think back to the Jaap Stam comments when I think of him.
 
VivaObertan said:
Neville is so damaging to the image of Manchester United; win, draw or lose. feck him, honestly.

Also, my wife and I met him last year at an event - prick there too.
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I've started to feel like this too. I mean we've had some right pricks play for this club, but I find Neville more annoying than any of them. He probably winds me up more than pundits that never played for us and delight in sticking the boot in.
 
arthurka said:
Gary Neville lives rent free in some heads here.
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He lied about Bruno and has set off a wave of abuse about that lie towards a current player of our club. The fact he has history bashing Bruno makes it even worse.
 
united_99 said:
He was the Henderson of Liverpool. Not much natural talent, but did what was asked of him and filled a certain role.
He was clearly the least talented of the class of 92 (well apart from his brother).
Fergie himself admitted that Neville achieved more than he originally thought.
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There is no shame in being behind Beckham, Scholes and Giggs talentwise. He had to work his socks off for what he achieved which makes it even more admirable but what a player he turned out to be .
He can be a terrible pundit at times but there is no question he was a great right back for United and a true playing Legend, first choice for his country with over 85 caps too.
 
Velvet Revolver said:
I think that should be a norm. There should be a neutral commentator commenting on games. Thinking out loud, they are supposed to comment on the game as it is being played not push in personal opinions into the game narrative.
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Unfortunately, football punditry has long since been more about entertainment than education. Pundits aren't picked on their ability to tell us things we don't know, they're picked on their ability to deliver clippable moments and controversial takes which drive engagement on social media.
 
crossy1686 said:
Maybe, just maybe, Bruno should stop giving people room to make baseless accusations at him and start acting like a captain instead?
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Eh? So because he didn't act like a captain it's alright and fine with just making stuff up that he did on Sunday, so that's then peddled at him non-stop for the next 48 hours? I don't think that's fair.

He could be doing a lot better sure, but nowt is fair about stuff being blatantly made up at him.
 
jeff_goldblum said:
Unfortunately, football punditry has long since been more about entertainment than education. Pundits aren't picked on their ability to tell us things we don't know, they're picked on their ability to deliver clippable moments and controversial takes which drive engagement on social media.
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Agree. Social media and instant gratification is ruining a lot of things
 
djembatheking said:
There is no shame in being behind Beckham, Scholes and Giggs talentwise. He had to work his socks off for what he achieved which makes it even more admirable but what a player he turned out to be .
He can be a terrible pundit at times but there is no question he was a great right back for United and a true playing Legend, first choice for his country with over 85 caps too.
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Was also behind Nicky Butt talent wise. Butt just had the “misfortune” to have Keane and Scholes ahead of him. But yeah, I agree with the rest of your post.
 
Vault Dweller said:
Eh? So because he didn't act like a captain it's alright and fine with just making stuff up that he did on Sunday, so that's then peddled at him non-stop for the next 48 hours? I don't think that's fair.

He could be doing a lot better sure, but nowt is fair about stuff being blatantly made up at him.
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It's not the first time people have made stuff up about our players, I'm not sure why people are that bothered about it now, probably because it's Neville and people are obsessed with everything he says for some reason, like he has more weight than Souness or Carragher when they say stupid shit, he doesn't.

Bruno was the captain on Sunday, the captain is the manager on the pitch and if that's a reflection of our manager than he should be fired. Bruno and the rest of them were disgraceful but you expect more from your captain.
 
Bang out of order for making those comments about Fernandes, and is an even bigger wanker for remaining silent and not apologising. What’s worse is Sky is continuing to pedal this nonsense despite the fact it’s been proven to be blatant lies.
 
arthurka said:
Gary Neville lives rent free in some heads here.
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Because he's a club legend and in an influential position and comments he makes can have a real world affect on our performances. What point are you trying to make? Do you think because he played for United he has free reign to spew whatever garbage he wants?
 
Nev's a clown when it comes to anything Utd related. Panders to the crowd by always taking a anti Utd stand. feck him
 
Strootman's Finger said:
Because he's a club legend and in an influential position and comments he makes can have a real world affect on our performances. What point are you trying to make? Do you think because he played for United he has free reign to spew whatever garbage he wants?
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Who's he influencing? No one gives a shit what pundits say, they're rent-a-gob, they're supposed to generate talking points.
 
I just think it’s weird how he’s constantly mentioning the LvG performance as the best Utd have played at Anfield but is also deadset against Utd adopting any kind of modern possession principles
 
GlasgowCeltic said:
I just think it’s weird how he’s constantly mentioning the LvG performance as the best Utd have played at Anfield but is also deadset against Utd adopting any kind of modern possession principles
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To be fair there are no other contenders for that crown in recent times (and that is barely recent).
 
GlasgowCeltic said:
I just think it’s weird how he’s constantly mentioning the LvG performance as the best Utd have played at Anfield but is also deadset against Utd adopting any kind of modern possession principles
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Yeah his anti possession stance is so idiotic especially when he wanks over city every chance he gets.
 
crossy1686 said:
It's not the first time people have made stuff up about our players, I'm not sure why people are that bothered about it now, probably because it's Neville and people are obsessed with everything he says for some reason, like he has more weight than Souness or Carragher when they say stupid shit, he doesn't.

Bruno was the captain on Sunday, the captain is the manager on the pitch and if that's a reflection of our manager than he should be fired. Bruno and the rest of them were disgraceful but you expect more from your captain.
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He's a United fan so makes no sense why he would lie to damage one of our players reputation, Bruno's performance and attitude was terrible same as every other player so neville didn't need to make things up to cause trouble. He tries too hard to be neutral by going overboard with the United criticism just so rivals fans can't call him biased
 
crossy1686 said:
Who's he influencing? No one gives a shit what pundits say, they're rent-a-gob, they're supposed to generate talking points.
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You don't, I don't, but people obviously do, or they wouldn't exist. You know the reality of United because you're heavily invested, but do you know the inner workings of liverpool or chelsea, or do you rely on the media to keep you informed on clubs your less personally invested in?
 
crossy1686 said:
Fernandes threw his hands up when a sub was made because it wasn't him and he wanted to be subbed off or something.
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Emotions can run high during a game like that. I switched the game off early as i knew that I'd probably lose mates if i stayed on Facebook or get banned in here if I stayed posting. So in some ways I sympathise with Gaz who was watching the game on live TV alongside Carra and Sourness. However he needs to be mature enough to acknowledge his mistake and apologise both privately and publicly
 
crossy1686 said:
It's not the first time people have made stuff up about our players, I'm not sure why people are that bothered about it now, probably because it's Neville and people are obsessed with everything he says for some reason, like he has more weight than Souness or Carragher when they say stupid shit, he doesn't.

Bruno was the captain on Sunday, the captain is the manager on the pitch and if that's a reflection of our manager than he should be fired. Bruno and the rest of them were disgraceful but you expect more from your captain.
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People are bothered about this one, probably more than normal, because it's came from Gary Neville, a United legend. Was a totally unnecessary thing to say and has now been repeated as fact and it's just blatantly not true.

I'm agreeing with you, it wasn't good enough from him on Sunday and he needs to be doing more. I don't understand though how you don't think it's bad a United legend on commentary just making sh*te up about our players when we were already getting battered and playing badly. Just seems mad for him to have said it and not said anything since about being wrong. As I said, an unnecessary thing for Bruno to be taking stick over.
 
crossy1686 said:
Who's he influencing? No one gives a shit what pundits say, they're rent-a-gob, they're supposed to generate talking points.
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That is not true. Neville is a club hero and a recent one at that. His opinion can and will be used as facts for other discussions.
 
Vault Dweller said:
People are bothered about this one, probably more than normal, because it's came from Gary Neville, a United legend. Was a totally unnecessary thing to say and has now been repeated as fact and it's just blatantly not true.

I'm agreeing with you, it wasn't good enough from him on Sunday and he needs to be doing more. I don't understand though how you don't think it's bad a United legend on commentary just making sh*te up about our players when we were already getting battered and playing badly. Just seems mad for him to have said it and not said anything since about being wrong. As I said, an unnecessary thing for Bruno to be taking stick over.
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SAF should pull Gaz aside and ask him what he would feel if Robson or Charlton went on the media and shat on either him or his brother on live TV whenever they made a mistake. Phil in particular was known for his rash tackles in the box. He costed England dearly and nearly costed us the treble
 
united_99 said:
Was also behind Nicky Butt talent wise. Butt just had the “misfortune” to have Keane and Scholes ahead of him. But yeah, I agree with the rest of your post.
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Yeh, Nicky Butt was great too and even though we had Keane and Scholes I`m pretty sure Butt played around 400 games before going to Newcastle. He would have matched Gary Nevs appearances if he had had 19 years at the club like Gary. It is mad how most of the playing legends from that era that are into punditry now talk a load of shite Keane, Scholes, Rio, Nev all are prone to spouting a load of bollocks. I doubt Ten Hag is too worried about them though, if he gets rattled by comments from ex players and lets it affect him or the players then he is the wrong man for the job. So far he seems more than capable of proving them wrong with what his team does on the pitch. Lets hope Bruno makes Gary eat his words.
 
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