Not sure what Micah is on about. Rashford is no victim.
Gary Neville - Pundit
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I definitely think he overcompensates in an attempt to not appear bias. He clearly doesn't hate United though, that's nonsense.
It's the constant oohing and ahhing that winds me up. Especially when it's over absolutely nothing. It was funny the first time, but he's been doing it for about 10 years now.
He makes some really odd calls as well. Like saying Bruno was apologising to the City fans when it's clear he was just winding them up. A shame cos I really enjoy him as a pundit.
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Micah Richards is an absolute clown, what is he talking about? Rashford the victim last few years? Idiot. Another one in the pocket of the Rashford PR team.
He is another “pundit” that shouldn’t have a job. Him, Sturridge and recently Neville are absolute dog shit.
Victim mentality.
I don't even find Keane to be a good pundit if I'm being honest. Listening to him moan on about players discussing tactics while waiting for the City players to come back out for the 2nd half was painful.
At least he doesn’t change his tune. He is a straight shooter and he has always been like that.
I felt he was trying infer that racism was at play for Rashford always being singled out for criticism.
To be fair to Neville, I think he dealt with it perfectly - reminding him that it was Rashford and Garnacho, then asking why Amad was able to put in as much effort as he did.
Felt like Micha was hinting at it without wanting to say it.
He had an utter mare of a pundit session yesterday.
Nope. He uttered some utter cross about Garnacho. "Been around a couple of years, has wrong body language and doesn't track back". Beyond wrong on either front. Its Rashford alone who has been doing those 3 things.
On the podcast he is United centric to the point he gets a bit of stick for it. It’s such a better version of him.
Most of the time I agree with what he's saying, and I'm just as annoyed about our performances as he is. But yeah, he was far too negative yesterday.
I didn't hear his "ohhhhhhhh" as I was busy screaming my bollocks off when Amad's goal went in, but I've just watched the YouTube highlights now and I can only imagine how irritating that must've felt for a City fan hearing that.
He still loves United and wants us to win. Even though he often tries to be anti-United in his commentary in an attempt to come across as impartial, it's still refreshing to see the mark slip sometimes.
He still loves United and wants us to win. Even though he often tries to be anti-United in his commentary in an attempt to come across as impartial, it's still refreshing to see the mark slip sometimes.
He says some weird things when he's on commentary. The bit about how our summer signings this season have been failures sticks out. Guy can say Mazroui has been good this season but still say we've bought badly this season....what? That part about United didn't deserve this win but Amad did? Huh? So the only person who deserved that FA cup medal that year was Cantona? The likes of Butt and Keane who put in the work in midfield (like Ugarte, Mainoo and Bruno this game) didn't?
He really got shot down by Mike Dean there big time. But wtf was that comment even supposed to mean???
Just more confirmation, as if we needed it, that the refs don't make objective judgments on these types of incidents.
Seemed like a set up to me. Like the producer asked Micah to argue in favour of Rash against Neville to give it some "racism" undertones.
I didn't notice that at the time, but it makes sense looking back on it. Yeah, I guess that's what he wanted to say, but he didn't want to say it on camera.
I don't believe that racism is a major factor here. I do believe a small amount exists, though. Some people seem to strongly dislike when black players display their personality off the pitch. Rashford pisses those people off with the clothes he wears and the way he acts during his personal life.
The main issue most people have with him is his lack of work rate over the years. The fans have had enough. The lack of G/A is also bad, but it looks like he's not arsed way too often.
That was the most baffling criticism I've ever heard from Keane. I really dislike him as a pundit. He doesn't offer any insight into the game. All he really says is the players don't care enough and aren't good enough.
Even though most of the fanbase seems to hate Neville on commentary, I'd much rather listen to his punditry than Keane's.
If Garnacho and Rashford were city/Liverpool players I would be defending them as well.
Didn't see it from that point of view
Garnacho is going down the same road.
I think he's a decent pundit for the most part but he's not great on commentary - and he's worse on United games because he's desperate not to appear biased.
Yeah he's better in the studio than he is on comms.
It was really annoying how he kept saying Amad was our only good player when our back 3 and Ugarte were all excellent too. He really is harsh when it comes to United
Usually don't mind Micah but Neville had him on toast last night as Micah was spouting absolute drivel.
He has been hanging around too much with morose lefties like Campbell etc that it seems to have affected his outlook on Utd.
Amorin is a brilliant communicator for a non native speaker. Hope the journalist who leaked the line up is banned from the club for a year in true Fergie style.
He is at the point now where he either just says completely incorrect stuff (misprofiling players, saying they don't do X when they actually do and it's just a lazy opinion) or he tars multiple players with the same brush (said only Amad and maybe Maz were good yesterday... Ugarte?? Maguire??).
It's irritating to have to listen to. He's got little subconscious agendas in his head that shape his opinions.
It's irritating to have to listen to. He's got little subconscious agendas in his head that shape his opinions.
Yep he was going on in the pre match build-up about how bad our signings were in the summer. He said after Amad scored the winner that he was only one out there that looked like a United player. Weird comment. Like some other pundits and commentators he's refusing to acknowledge how good Ugarte has been for us.
This was incredibly weird - "your" comments vs. listening to Gary. I can count on one hand, how many times I've watched games with Gary as a commentator (not from "there") and yesterday I had to take care of my sick kids in a dark room, meaning I could only listen to the game and peep at the game under the blanket from time to time.
Did enjoy listening to the goals and the turnaround. But became somewhat demotivated, as it seemed like a lucky shot. According to Gary, everything was wrong bar Amad. Totally different experience when going through the match thread and post discussion.
Did enjoy listening to the goals and the turnaround. But became somewhat demotivated, as it seemed like a lucky shot. According to Gary, everything was wrong bar Amad. Totally different experience when going through the match thread and post discussion.
This is the problem for some people though. Racism exists and they can clearly see it which then validates their ideas that all of it must be racism. You don't go from being the golden boy to being persona non grata for no reason. People haven't suddenly gone "christ, Rashford is black??". Rashford is just a very simple case of a player that isn't performing, has barely performed for years, doesn't seem to care that he isn't performing, doesn't seem to be putting in even the basic level of effort required to regain any form and is being paid absolutely silly money to do very little.
Then you add the little flourishes on top like buggering off to the US when perhaps you should be focussing on impressing a new manager and trying to regain your form. Constantly putting out PR pieces about how much you care and how hard you work when its evident to anyone with eyes you couldn't care too much less.
Maguire got awful abuse for years despite always giving his all. The complaints were largely that he wasn't good enough and he was on silly money for a player of his ability. So imagine what the abuse would have been like if he wasn't even putting in the effort and was on nearly double his wages...
Bruno still gets a lot of crap from a lot of people in our fanbase despite always working his ass off and putting out top top class numbers and despite not being on a salary anywhere near what Rashfords is.
When you look at the facts, there really isn't any ambiguity around why Rashford is seeing fans turn on him. In fact I can't understand why they wouldn't. Hes a perfect encapsulation of our club over the past decade.
Basically my sentiments, I feel everything when he commentates us is over the top, it was insufferable at times yesterday.
I feel like Micah is there to add the friendly value. And yesterday he forgot his role. I don’t even think he believed in his Rashford points but seemed like he just wanted to try and play devils advocate, maybe make a point he heard from some United fans especially online.
Yeah right. I'm yet to see AG be utterly lazy on pitch. Even in days he has been in terrible form.
Hes greedy and doesn't always do what he should for the good of the team but you can't argue that he works his socks off when it comes to attacking. Rashfords effort levels vs Garnachos is night and day.
I don’t think he's all that accurate either. In fact few of the pundits are when it comes to United players.
Labelling Garnacho as lazy isn't right. That's not his problem. As all of us here know that. It's decision making, his on pitch ego that needs sorting. He covers plenty of distance.
Highlighting Rashford's not running back as the primary problem, again, that isn't it. Sure it would be better if he chased back more bit I'd say that's way down the list of issues with him. How about goalscoring, assists, decision making, competing in duels, attacking off the ball movements.
Now Amorim's dropped Rashford Neville has suddenly showed up. Barely a word previously.
Labelling Garnacho as lazy isn't right. That's not his problem. As all of us here know that. It's decision making, his on pitch ego that needs sorting. He covers plenty of distance.
Highlighting Rashford's not running back as the primary problem, again, that isn't it. Sure it would be better if he chased back more bit I'd say that's way down the list of issues with him. How about goalscoring, assists, decision making, competing in duels, attacking off the ball movements.
Now Amorim's dropped Rashford Neville has suddenly showed up. Barely a word previously.
I said he’s on a similar path to Rashford not that he is Rashford. He can be very lazy when it comes to not tracking back.
It's easy to forget Rashford once had a very good workrate, to the point that famously anti young player Mourinho played him more than anyone else during his first season.
Not exactly. He completely changed his tune when his pals Cristiano and Solskjaer were a topic. He behaved like a fanboy, not pundit.
No. I'm yet to see Garnacho be lazy. He only fails to track back when he is dog tired. Or when he has lost concentration due to inexperience. Yet he always tries to compensate. Neville openly lied the kid has been serving up Rashford's exact type of laziness and not bothered body language for years. It's criminal.
I've NEVER seen Garnacho do what Rashford did that lead to the first goal we conceded vs Spurs at home. Even on a bad day.
What? AG doesn't work his socks of when attacking and Rashford does?
