Gary Neville - Pundit

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Neville is unique among ex-United players in how much he willing to publicly mock the club. Hope Amorim is showing the video to the team to fire them up.
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What do you want him to be ... constantly positive?
 
Baneofthegame said:
I don’t think anyone wants him to just shower the club with praise, but in my opinion he goes over the top in his critiques to appear unbiased.
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I think most football fans expect ex-player pundits to hold some bias towards their club which makes for more interesting viewing. Neville isn’t a journalist in the traditional sense - objectivity isn’t his selling point.

I think Neville like most United fans are feeling frustrated over the total mismanagement of this club since Sir Alex left.
 
Great turn by Macedaaa said:
Why did Fergie push so hard to sign Thuram in 01? He was a good club man did a lot for the youth team. But as a player he cost us a lot of goals over the years. He could be a liability
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I don't recall Fergie pushing hard for Thuram...I remember we were heavily linked to him in the papers but that was as a Centre-Back partner to Stam
 
Baneofthegame said:
I don’t think anyone wants him to just shower the club with praise, but in my opinion he goes over the top in his critiques to appear unbiased.
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He 100% does this. I don't think anybody expects him to big the club up, but maybe temper his criticism at times.

Look at Keane - puts Carragher in his box every now in then with 'one league title in 30 years' (granted soon to be 2) and even City in dissing Haaland for being a League one footballer when not firing etc.

Neville would never. He always goes out of his way to big up Anfield too in an almost nauseating manner 'oh this place, it does something to you etc'.

Any controversy at United he jumps all over, Carragher does the opposite re Liverpool.

As far as ex-players go, he is a total sell out in this sense. He (and Scholes on this one) genuinely gives me the impression he enjoys us being a shadow of our former selves. I think he'll actually be a tad bitter if United come good (like league and or regularly CL challenging good).
 
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He said: "He's [Oliver] been taken off the Arsenal vs Manchester City, hasn't he? I think that's completely wrong, that.

"The idea he would go into that game on Sunday and think he's going to be swayed towards City... he's not going to do that. He's a professional guy.

"He's the best referee in the country, and he's now being bombed off games because he made a mistake?

"They [Arsenal fans] use language like corruption, which means they think he's getting paid and bought off. Which is absolutely not the case.

"We lived in a club [Manchester United] which created a siege mentality about the referees. Arsenal are doing a bit of that as well.

"There's no doubt that what Arsenal do is inflame the situation after the game rather than calm it down. They've done that for 12 months. But we can't say that's wrong, having played in the dressing room that we did.

"The difference is now with social media, when we were playing back in the day and doing similar things with referees, we weren't inflaming what would be a cause of corruption on social media.



"Now you have a sway of Arsenal's anger, which comes from the players and Mikel Arteta, and prominent fans.

"You now have a social media wave which goes towards [allegations of] corruption and cheating. In our day, we couldn't have that much influence. Everyone was at home without a phone, and didn't have Twitter."
 
Remember the geese said:
Wish people would stop with this shite. Neville needs to stop defending incompetence.
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He likes to create a narrative. Oliver is an incompetent ref, if not biased. Media folks like Neville start to create these narratives and soon refs start thinking they are superstars and they should dictate how the game should flow. Happened with Clattenburg. Happening with Taylor. Happening with Oliver.
 
He is to punditry what Rooney is to management. Think he must like the sound of his own voice
 
Gary and Michael probably spent some time together at soiree for people so rich that we've never heard of it.
 
For all the stick Neville gets, just heard him saying something I agree with.

He’s on a pod discussing the Busby Babes, and about the impact of the disaster, the legacy of it but also the Babes, how Sir Alex modelled the youth team in the same manner as Sir Matt. He talks about either through the academy or if you were signed, the history and reputation of the club was something you tapped into and the manager made sure you did. And that history inspired, thinking about those that came before and how in particular United’s history is what drives you on. He finished just by saying that he hears people talking about the aura of Sir Alex looms heavy, or what ex players thinks looks heavy, or talking about meeting the standard of what the club should aspire to be. And if it’s reached the point where players or whoever cannot be inspired by this club and it’s history, then anyone who doesn’t should leave. The club shouldn’t shrink you, it should inspire and fill you with pride to wear the jersey.

Sure, it’s corny and all that, but I enjoyed hearing that.
 
Vault Dweller said:
For all the stick Neville gets, just heard him saying something I agree with.

He’s on a pod discussing the Busby Babes, and about the impact of the disaster, the legacy of it but also the Babes, how Sir Alex modelled the youth team in the same manner as Sir Matt. He talks about either through the academy or if you were signed, the history and reputation of the club was something you tapped into and the manager made sure you did. And that history inspired, thinking about those that came before and how in particular United’s history is what drives you on. He finished just by saying that he hears people talking about the aura of Sir Alex looms heavy, or what ex players thinks looks heavy, or talking about meeting the standard of what the club should aspire to be. And if it’s reached the point where players or whoever cannot be inspired by this club and it’s history, then anyone who doesn’t should leave. The club shouldn’t shrink you, it should inspire and fill you with pride to wear the jersey.

Sure, it’s corny and all that, but I enjoyed hearing that.
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He says that but even in the 70s and 80s many players couldn't handle it for those reasons, this is nothing new.
 
Have to laugh at people constantly having a go at Gary - he is only saying what most people say here. And he's as much a fan of the club as any here but they want him to be another Carragher or Redknapp or one of the other buffoons
 
I grew up as a United fan and started following them in 1990. I can’t describe how grateful I am to have grown up with the great personalities United had back then. Especially in the 90s with players like Keane, Scholes, and Neville. They were huge players for United and helped shape the culture and status that led to title after title.

Unfortunately, I’m getting tired of the negative spiral they’re contributing to in their current roles as pundits. They comment on everything and criticize left, right, and center. Their egos constantly seek validation of their own status, always pointing out how "back in their day," no one ever gave less than 100%, etc. They are extremely damaging to the environment that needs to be rebuilt at United.

At this point, I think it’s time for them to decide whether they’re supporting Manchester United or their own media careers. You don’t see other pundits tearing into their club's players, managers, and leadership the way Keane, Neville, and Scholes do. Are they even fans of United anymore?

It’s impossible to build a positive atmosphere between the fans, players, and leadership when constant negativity is being thrown out into the media by former players. I hope they’ll soon approach their roles as pundits with more love for the club and the project, instead of just creating noise and negativity.
 
MUEricTheKing said:
I grew up as a United fan and started following them in 1990. I can’t describe how grateful I am to have grown up with the great personalities United had back then. Especially in the 90s with players like Keane, Scholes, and Neville. They were huge players for United and helped shape the culture and status that led to title after title.

Unfortunately, I’m getting tired of the negative spiral they’re contributing to in their current roles as pundits. They comment on everything and criticize left, right, and center. Their egos constantly seek validation of their own status, always pointing out how "back in their day," no one ever gave less than 100%, etc. They are extremely damaging to the environment that needs to be rebuilt at United.

At this point, I think it’s time for them to decide whether they’re supporting Manchester United or their own media careers. You don’t see other pundits tearing into their club's players, managers, and leadership the way Keane, Neville, and Scholes do. Are they even fans of United anymore?

It’s impossible to build a positive atmosphere between the fans, players, and leadership when constant negativity is being thrown out into the media by former players. I hope they’ll soon approach their roles as pundits with more love for the club and the project, instead of just creating noise and negativity.
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Couldn’t agree with you any more. I know we have been shite for a long time now but the constant negativity by the likes of Neville and Scholes in particular is part of why we have such a toxic culture in this club.

I don’t expect them to lie, I’m not expecting them to say we are great and everything is fine but there is no benefit to the constant negativity and extra pressure they put under the manager and players. Even when we beat City you could tell Neville wasn’t very happy about it, as soon as we took the lead he was saying how we didn’t deserve it and how Amad was the only player who looked like a “Manchester United” player.

It’s a shame, cause they all had wonderful careers here and gave us memories we’ll never forget but now they are acting like a jealous ex who is delighted to see their ex struggling, they are tarnishing the love the fans had for them as players.
 
I agree with what’s been said above, you contrast that with the ex Liverpool lot who act like official cheerleaders for the club whether they’re utter shite or going through a good spell. There’s already a ton of pressure that comes with playing for Utd, don’t need these two constantly adding to it all the time.
 
An example from this week is Scholes making comments about Martínez and Amorim. Amorim’s head is fried, and Martínez is someone you can’t help but kick while he’s down—literally just after being ruled out for a year with his injury. It’s disrespectful.

We get it—the group of players from the ’90s and 2000s was incredible, and you had an unmatched winning culture.
But it’s time for you to stop acting like war veterans who can only talk about how heroic you all were, constantly calling each other the best player you ever played with and naming each other in the “greatest United XI of all time.”

This is a new era, and it’s time to support everyone who wears the shirt. Build them up like people built you up back in the day. Things will only turn around when there’s a positive energy and attitude all the way around—from players to coaches to fans to management and even the media.

If you’re real fans and love the club more than your own legacy, start showing it.
 
MUEricTheKing said:
I grew up as a United fan and started following them in 1990. I can’t describe how grateful I am to have grown up with the great personalities United had back then. Especially in the 90s with players like Keane, Scholes, and Neville. They were huge players for United and helped shape the culture and status that led to title after title.

Unfortunately, I’m getting tired of the negative spiral they’re contributing to in their current roles as pundits. They comment on everything and criticize left, right, and center. Their egos constantly seek validation of their own status, always pointing out how "back in their day," no one ever gave less than 100%, etc. They are extremely damaging to the environment that needs to be rebuilt at United.

At this point, I think it’s time for them to decide whether they’re supporting Manchester United or their own media careers. You don’t see other pundits tearing into their club's players, managers, and leadership the way Keane, Neville, and Scholes do. Are they even fans of United anymore?

It’s impossible to build a positive atmosphere between the fans, players, and leadership when constant negativity is being thrown out into the media by former players. I hope they’ll soon approach their roles as pundits with more love for the club and the project, instead of just creating noise and negativity.
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100% and I am glad more people are seeing through it now. My post history in this thread is littered with years of saying they are toxic as feck as pundits, they turn on any manager who they don't like, have unhidden biases, make flippant comments almost weekly which are a constant noise to the players. But it's ok, because enough dimwits see G Nev make an insta post with a glass of red when United win and ignore the verbal cascade of negativity he and his mates spew about all things United. It's a classic case of supporting, this being the key word, your team when it suits you.
 
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