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DannyCAFC said:
:lol: You have in no way simplified that.

feck me, just when you thought this place couldn't turn in to AccountantCafe anymore, we're on to amortising transfer deals.
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Yeah I really should have said "let's complicate this and make a lot of assumptions".
 
lsd said:
You said 4 years there's no way a 33 to Bale whose main asset is pace would be anywhere near the best player in the Premiership .Ronaldo is on another planet to Bale and has adapted his game to prolong his career yet he is showing signs now at 31 he isn't what he is .
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Bale is much more than pace. He’s got amazing reading of the game. He constantly picks up good positions, finds gaps in between midfield and defence. Right, besides he’s more than able to play through the middle as a second striker where he’s actually brilliant as well.

Bale is as complete as they come so him losing a yard of pace will not be a problem if he can stay fit. Big if, though!
 
Solver said:
true lad, this is the concern of everyone about players like him. Very good players but some reason just cannot leave the treatment room. jack Wilshere is an example- very talented, skilful but always injured
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I agree with what you say ,Wilshire and Bale both have poor fitness records ,, but with one big difference .Wilshere is at the end of his contract so I reckon we could get him for 15m now or free I. The summer whereas Bale would likely cost 80m .( and no chance of Madrid letting him go in January as they are desperate to win champs lge )
Wilshire definitely worth a punt , Bale as much as I rate the guy I'm not so sure it would be infuriating to pay that sort of money and only have him available for half the season
 
MaxiPaxi said:
Bale is much more than pace. He’s got amazing reading of the game. He constantly picks up good positions, finds gaps in between midfield and defence. Right, besides he’s more than able to play through the middle as a second striker where he’s actually brilliant as well.

Bale is as complete as they come so him losing a yard of pace will not be a problem if he can stay fit. Big if, though!
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still funny that people still believe Bale is a winger
 
Jake said:
i never said he would win the Ballon d’Or if he came here. Never even emplied that.

Do I think he could have a Salah effect? - Yes. He’s more equipped to rack up Salah numbers or even better than the actual Salah here. Only if he can stay constantly fit.

I believe he can be one of the best players in the league - just like Salah is now. Just think he’s very direct and people would be surprised about how productive he could be here.

We could do worse in this market then try and grab Bale for a few years.
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I agree with you mate
 
Jaybomb said:
It’s none of my business what United are wiling to pay him.... or pay FOR him.

Is he a cracking player? Yes. One of the best in the world.

Would he improve us? Yes. Massively.

Would he get injured much? Hard to tell. RVP had a horrendous injury record at Arsenal and he completely bossed it in his first season for us.

If you asked me if I would take a risk on him if it meant he would drive us to another league title lik Van Persie did.... ABSOLUTELY. All the injury woes afterwards would be worth it because let’s face it... we don’t have him now, do we? So how would we be any worse off for having him in the squad and available for even half a season? From a fans point of view, it would only benefit us.

And if it didn’t work out, then we’ll just ship him off. No problem. We did it with Di Maria, Schweinsteiger and Depay. And all those guys were on massive wages.
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Opportunity cost.

The cost of him is the opportunity another player would have in his position. We wouldn’t be worse off with him next season compared to now. But we could be better off if we go with a different option for his position
 
I'm guessing that if Bale has anymore injuries this season and it is stop start for him then Madrid will probably let him go. If he smashes it up this season and stays injury free then I reckon Madrid will keep him.

Looks a no win situation for Utd either way.
 
Judas said:
Arguing the quality of Bale is weird, I’d have thought everyone rates him, the only issue is he will never ever stay fit.
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I think the major discussion on this thread is between people who think he is awesome and hope that he magically stays fit and in top form in a much more physical league Vs people who think he will not be able to add value as he is always unfit
 
lsd said:
You said 4 years there's no way a 33 to Bale whose main asset is pace would be anywhere near the best player in the Premiership .Ronaldo is on another planet to Bale and has adapted his game to prolong his career yet he is showing signs now at 31 he isn't what he is .
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Ronaldo turns 33 in about 3 weeks..
 
ROFLUTION said:
He isn't? Mostly lll of the line-ups with Real Madrid from last season shows him on the wing.

https://www.football-lineups.com/team/Real_Madrid/La_Liga_2016-2017/Campaign/?p=1
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He's adapted there, with plenty of freedom to roam inside. He's a natural second striker, much better player down the middle than on the right wing. To be fair, his best position is probably still the left wing, but he don't wanna play there.

Ancelotti was sacked because Bale wanted to play down the middle btw

Cristiano's been playing as an out and out pure striker since 2014 btw
 
giorno said:
He's adapted there, with plenty of freedom to roam inside. He's a natural second striker, much better player down the middle than on the right wing. To be fair, his best position is probably still the left wing, but he don't wanna play there.

Ancelotti was sacked because Bale wanted to play down the middle btw

Cristiano's been playing as an out and out pure striker since 2014 btw
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What's his market value? Will he play against PSG?
 
Leftback99 said:
Why would Madrid sell him?
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Because he’s on insane wages and can’t stay fit. It’s only going to get worse so they’ll cut their losses while he’s still worth something.

We will probably be the mugs that think we’re getting a Ferrari when really it’s an Alfa Romeo.
 
United Pro said:
Let's simplify this, so say if we were to sign those three players and they would stay here until they were 33. Bale would give us 4 seasons and would cost say £60m, so that'd cost us £15m a season. Griezmann would give 6 seasons and would cost £90m, so that's again £15m a season. Dybala will give 9 seasons and would cost around £130m, so that's about £14.5m a season. So all pretty similar if we break it down like that.
However, a big difference is that with Dybala in say 3/4 seasons, he'd be 27/28 and likely peaking, so if we do decide to sell then, we should be able to get a very good fee back (similar to how Madrid bought a 24 year old Bale and may sell him on 5 years later for a similar fee to the then world record fee they paid). You wouldn't be able get the same fee back with Griezmann and most definitely not with Bale.

That was all taking this from a purely financial perspective, but if we were look at play style, then Bale is someone who is heavily reliant on pace (something that is expected to decrease once players approach 30). However, Dybala and Griezmann are both players that are less reliant on pace and more on technical ability. Hence, one should expect both of them to be more likely play at a higher level even once they are in their mid 30's.
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Good post.

The less risky transaction would be Griezmann in terms of profile IMO

Dybala is younger but Griezmann is ready for the English battle!
 
Leftback99 said:
Why would Madrid sell him?
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aren't they talking about making offers for players such as Courtois, Hazard and Neymar, even talk of Kane as well. To buy anyone of them, gonna cost big money. Twinkle toes not getting any younger either. A nice bit of coin for a regularly injured player makes good sense to them
 
poleglass red said:
aren't they talking about making offers for players such as Courtois, Hazard and Neymar, even talk of Kane as well. To buy anyone of them, gonna cost big money. Twinkle toes not getting any younger either. A nice bit of coin for a regularly injured player makes good sense to them
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Would be ironic if we indirectly end up funding their summer chase of DDG.

Knowing our luck this innocent joke will become a reality
 
Had a dream last night that Bale scored a low curling shot from 25 yards to win us the Champions League.

Anyway, I'm still hesitant at his age and condition. Giggsy did well with injuries in his later years so there's some hope. Maybe Yoga for Bale?
 
The 3 rumours that I wish would just dry up when it comes to Utd:

1. Ronaldo. That ship has sailed. Really tiresome.

2. Neymar. Could go anywhere in world football, wouldn't choose Utd.

3. Bale. A crock these days. Fresh, young talent is required not a player who spends half a season in the physio room.
 
redshaw said:
Had a dream last night that Bale scored a low curling shot from 25 yards to win us the Champions League.

Anyway, I'm still hesitant at his age and condition. Giggsy did well with injuries in his later years so there's some hope. Maybe Yoga for Bale?
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Its just nonsense like this which is why this stupid rumour wont go away
 
redshaw said:
Had a dream last night that Bale scored a low curling shot from 25 yards to win us the Champions League.

Anyway, I'm still hesitant at his age and condition. Giggsy did well with injuries in his later years so there's some hope. Maybe Yoga for Bale?
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Had a dream last night of lot of money going down the drain and hospital bed and I think I vividly saw crutches.
 
Apparently playing golf causes him reaccuring injuries, yet he refuses to stop playing as he is really good.

If true, that shows his head isn't fully focused on football and longevity isn't his priority.
 
Klean said:
Another thing to consider. I believe in Spain there is a 56% tax for top earners, so while he is rumored to be on astronomical wage; you will not have to pay him as much to get the same wage after tax. I'd still take him here in a heartbeat.
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45% in the UK. Pretty sizeable difference but it's still going to be massive wages to equal his take-home in Madrid.
 
IrishRedDevil said:
Apparently playing golf causes him reaccuring injuries, yet he refuses to stop playing as he is really good.

If true, that shows his head isn't fully focused on football and longevity isn't his priority.
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It's daft if true, but at the end of the day you're eventually going to drop to pieces when playing football if you can't manage a round of golf. The fact the he can't is probably the more shocking aspect of it.
 
He would come here with very little to prove, he’s won everything and he’s absolutely filthy rich. Only way he comes is if Madrid get rid of him. I don’t want us to be the ones to pay his huge last wages before he retires. We need to identify players with the potential to hit that level again in the future or someone on the cusp of it. It was so much easier when we could just buy Spurs players on an upward curve, since then, even on that basis alone, you can see they’ve been very well managed.
 
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The only thing he ever had over other players was his athleticism and at 28 with his injury record it his clear his body is failing him. I don't see him adapting his game the way Ronaldo has and with the exception of shooting his technique is above average at best. Furthermore, dealing with that cretin Perez would only make this a worse deal for us.
 
Peanut Butter said:
The 3 rumours that I wish would just dry up when it comes to Utd:

1. Ronaldo. That ship has sailed. Really tiresome.

2. Neymar. Could go anywhere in world football, wouldn't choose Utd.

3. Bale. A crock these days. Fresh, young talent is required not a player who spends half a season in the physio room.
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They contacted United and Real first. Paris wasn't his priority but they were the only ones willing to pay the fee.
 
Port Vale Devil said:
I'm guessing that if Bale has anymore injuries this season and it is stop start for him then Madrid will probably let him go. If he smashes it up this season and stays injury free then I reckon Madrid will keep him.

Looks a no win situation for Utd either way.
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Completely agree.
 
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