Well realistically speaking there aren't many clubs who can afford Bale's wages we happen to be one of them and have shown highest interest so Madrids options are fairly limited if they are seriously interested in moving him. In regard to Morata I don't think he was our primary target and it wasn't just Real playing hardball .
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Well realistically speaking there aren't many clubs who can afford Bale's wages we happen to be one of them and have shown highest interest so Madrids options are fairly limited if they are seriously interested in moving him. In regard to Morata I don't think he was our primary target and it wasn't just Real playing hardball .
To be honest, I think that the DoF model is now essential for all clubs.
The era of SAF like managers is over, Wenger is probably the last man standing of this ilk.
Nowadays managers seem to stay at a club no longer than 3 or 4 years at the most, and without the structure of a DoF at the club, there will be a constant state of transition or rebuilding from the previous manager's philosophy..
Don’t spurs have first option?
It's never been definitively clarified one way or the other. The likelihood is that Madrid would be flogging him for a fee well outisde of Tottenham's price range, so it would be a moot point anyway.
As far as we know, but I doubt we could match a bit in excess of £50M.
Kane for Bale it is.
Fingers crossed, Real doing two favours in one deal.
What a disaster this would be. Bale wants to stay at RM and is injured a lot. We should stay far away from him and let him be Madrid's problem.
Pay as you play loan, please
One can dream.
Hopefully he turns us down even if we are daft enough to try bidding. Great player, just never fit and would be on a crazy wage.
Please dont
Hopefully we are not that daft and wouldn't bid for him.
Yeah that’s a good shout actually, rvp was just the only one that came to mind given I’ve erased falcaos time here mentally.
The thing with Bale is that when fit he's a cracking player that we really could do with on the right wing. The problem is he's only fit for about half a season, so if you factor in that he'd ask for about £350k a week in wages and that Madrid will likely ask for their money back in transfer fee (€100m/£88.4m), I'm just not sure he'd be a viable option.
Not a dig at you, but this is what sums this thread up and is repeated every single time I pop into the bale thread
Yeah I get you. There's 2 opinions that are consistently posted on here. One is similar to what I've written and the other is about how Bale would transform our team and that we should go for him. The thing is, even if we pursue this deal, nothing will really become clear until nearer to the end of the season, so it'll just be a lot of back and forth till then.Not a dig at you, but this is what sums this thread up and is repeated every single time I pop into the bale thread
It’s none of my business what United are wiling to pay him.... or pay FOR him.
Is he a cracking player? Yes. One of the best in the world.
Would he improve us? Yes. Massively.
Would he get injured much? Hard to tell. RVP had a horrendous injury record at Arsenal and he completely bossed it in his first season for us.
If you asked me if I would take a risk on him if it meant he would drive us to another league title lik Van Persie did.... ABSOLUTELY. All the injury woes afterwards would be worth it because let’s face it... we don’t have him now, do we? So how would we be any worse off for having him in the squad and available for even half a season? From a fans point of view, it would only benefit us.
And if it didn’t work out, then we’ll just ship him off. No problem. We did it with Di Maria, Schweinsteiger and Depay. And all those guys were on massive wages.
Is he a cracking player? Yes. One of the best in the world.
Would he improve us? Yes. Massively.
Would he get injured much? Hard to tell. RVP had a horrendous injury record at Arsenal and he completely bossed it in his first season for us.
If you asked me if I would take a risk on him if it meant he would drive us to another league title lik Van Persie did.... ABSOLUTELY. All the injury woes afterwards would be worth it because let’s face it... we don’t have him now, do we? So how would we be any worse off for having him in the squad and available for even half a season? From a fans point of view, it would only benefit us.
And if it didn’t work out, then we’ll just ship him off. No problem. We did it with Di Maria, Schweinsteiger and Depay. And all those guys were on massive wages.
Would fit Mourinho’s attacking playing style of hoping one of his front 4 can produce something out of nothing.
Ya and just like SAF did, let us wait for Gareth Bale to be best player in his league before going for him rather than throwing a lot of money and praying
Kane for Bale would be amazing just to see Glaston's reaction.
Has Bale proved that he can stay clear of injuries over a season? Just for one season ? Then, yes , I am all for it.
His talent is never the problem but injury is.
Needless to say, Spurs had the last laugh.
This. In a nutshell.
Bale is 28, Dybala is 24 and Griezmann is 26. All would cost a similar price.
United would get many more years out of Dybala and for the price would be much better value for money.
United would get many more years out of Dybala and for the price would be much better value for money.
Any one of these players could get a serious injury/illness at any time. Look what happened to Pogba, Bailly, Shaw, Ibrahimovic, Carrick etc. Who's to say that Dybala or Griezmann...or any other player for that matter wouldn't get a serious injury. Just looking at a player's injury record is very shortsighted. How anyone would turn their nose up at Bale is ridiculous.
I'd be very happy if we went in for him. We'll have to see how things pan out. Not that he wants to leave Real anyways.
I'd be very happy if we went in for him. We'll have to see how things pan out. Not that he wants to leave Real anyways.
That's ridiculous argument. I meant sure, healthy player may get freak injury with us. However, it doesn't anti jinx if we decide to sign injure prone players. The 2 Owen, Anderson, RVP, Saha... are examples. Bale has been out injured more and play less and less games. It's not his first injury plagued season so what you say doesn't apply. It's also the reason Madrid trying to offload despite he's helpful when he can play as Ronaldo clearly declines and other attackers being underwhelming
Hm, why would they? Griezmann has a €100m release clause effective from July the 1st. Dybala would be easily 50% up on him. That's not really similar, you can still get very high quality player for £50m.
29 in the summer, I know that isn't old, but paying £60m for a player known for his pace is ridiculous, and his injuries...
Very droll sir.
If there is any way at all to get a loan with a paying fee and option to buy, similar to that James deal, it's a no brainer. Surely, Real are just looking to get rid and recoup money now, they will presumably go through some overhaul in the summer.
I misread the title all day as 'Gary Lineker|with United again'
No they wont. Dybala > Griezmann > Bale in terms of the cost.
Reading this, someone would think he has only been injured for half a season and was tearing it up till then.
How could anyone ask to put loads of money on a player who has spent a good matter of time on hospital bed for last 3 seasons is ridiculous. Not to mention that PL is a much more physical league than La Liga.
He makes that net of tax already (£600k pre).
I think the future for Bale is central. If he is fit, he will have a good 2 or 3 years at United. He is however by no means cost effective and I'm just not sure that Bale will retain the motivation or desire to prove himself again.
Let's simplify this, so say if we were to sign those three players and they would stay here until they were 33. Bale would give us 4 seasons and would cost say £60m, so that'd cost us £15m a season. Griezmann would give 6 seasons and would cost £90m, so that's again £15m a season. Dybala will give 9 seasons and would cost around £130m, so that's about £14.5m a season. So all pretty similar if we break it down like that.
However, a big difference is that with Dybala in say 3/4 seasons, he'd be 27/28 and likely peaking, so if we do decide to sell then, we should be able to get a very good fee back (similar to how Madrid bought a 24 year old Bale and may sell him on 5 years later for a similar fee to the then world record fee they paid). You wouldn't be able get the same fee back with Griezmann and most definitely not with Bale.
That was all taking this from a purely financial perspective, but if we were look at play style, then Bale is someone who is heavily reliant on pace (something that is expected to decrease once players approach 30). However, Dybala and Griezmann are both players that are less reliant on pace and more on technical ability. Hence, one should expect both of them to be more likely play at a higher level even once they are in their mid 30's.
Literally makes no sense classifying it that way. So many ifs and buts. You look at it when taking at face value at the time of purchase. End of.
Well, there's a reason why players approaching 30 on average cost less than those that are 24/25. You mentioned Dybala will cost more than Bale, but a big reason for that is age. Hence why I looked at the potential transfer fee per season, as generally when you make an investment you have to consider how many years of service you can get from it. So, I thought looking at any transfer fee with relation to the number of years that player can potentially stay here and play at a decent level is more of a reasonable comparison than just the transfer fee alone.
More than age it has to do with the quality of the player. Like Dybala will cost more than Lukaku even though they are around the same age and Ronaldo will cost more than Bale even though Ronaldo is 4 years older.
Jose is a known and public admirer so this could definitely happen. Especially if Madrid do the inevitable and bring in Hazard.
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