Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

I never got so far in the novels relative to the series. Do you both know if these scenes happened in the books or were more "creative adaptation"?
I believe the books ends the same way s5 ends. But the two bolded parts don't happen :lol:

That was a Tv show brain child. As was ... dorne (or the way it was portrayed)
 
Did you laugh like Bronn did whenever he heard "Dickon Tarly"?

Everyone likes the odd knob joke but when it's Tyrion, who used to be so witty with his retorts, doing it over and over it got a bit dry.

Unlike my knob lmfao
I laughed at that. Though I thought that was a fantastic episode (last second save aside) and the follow up of not searching for them
 
I laughed at that. Though I thought that was a fantastic episode (last second save aside) and the follow up of not searching for them
It's annoying because that episode is definitely amazing, but Jaime and Bronn being captured would have still made sense because they end up where Dany goes eventually anyway. Having them magically get away only to go to Winterfell in the long run just screams of writers who really couldn't be arsed trying to tie their story together. Plus, with Jaime captured it would give Cersei the chance to answer the big question on what she values more; her true love or power.
 
It’s crazy how tarnished the GoT legacy is now. Probably the biggest series ever at the time, and yet most people prefer to forget it.
 
Did you laugh like Bronn did whenever he heard "Dickon Tarly"?

Everyone likes the odd knob joke but when it's Tyrion, who used to be so witty with his retorts, doing it over and over it got a bit dry.

Unlike my knob lmfao

Yes, pretty much. Like every immature adult still does. It's in our blood to laugh at dick jokes, no matter the delivery.
 
It’s crazy how tarnished the GoT legacy is now. Probably the biggest series ever at the time, and yet most people prefer to forget it.


It was like if on the last episodes of The Sopranos we found out Tony was an undercover cop all the time and wasn't even Italian
 
It’s crazy how tarnished the GoT legacy is now. Probably the biggest series ever at the time, and yet most people prefer to forget it.

It's weird, I hated the ending, but still loved the overall series, and don't think "the end was shit so it was all shit". I'd still watch it all again, even the last season.

Season 8 is still better than any of the netflix bollocks which gets rave reviews. They're all cookie cutter BS which make feck all sense and cater to one audience, morons.
 
It's weird, I hated the ending, but still loved the overall series, and don't think "the end was shit so it was all shit". I'd still watch it all again, even the last season.

Season 8 is still better than any of the netflix bollocks which gets rave reviews. They're all cookie cutter BS which make feck all sense and cater to one audience, morons.
TBF, that can be true whilst also still being shit based on the logic of the show and general tv viewing.
 
It's weird, I hated the ending, but still loved the overall series, and don't think "the end was shit so it was all shit". I'd still watch it all again, even the last season.

Season 8 is still better than any of the netflix bollocks which gets rave reviews. They're all cookie cutter BS which make feck all sense and cater to one audience, morons.

This is true in many ways, nothing has come close since in terms of genre TV. The thing is that as good as seasons 1-4 were they could and should have been even better and all the issues that would drag the quality down in the later seasons were already there.
 
Decided to do a rewatch and something big sticks out to me:
The early seasons were full of side characters who were played by actors who commanded your attention with great screen presence

Yoren
Lord commander Mormont
Benjen Stark
Craster
Syrio Forel
Qhorin Halfhand
Maester Luwin
The blackfish
Great jon Umber
Mance Rayder

And then the bigger ones like Tywin, King Robert, Barristan Selmy, Drogo

Almost Every single one of these characters were killed off by season 5 and I think it really hurt the series losing so many of them
 
Decided to do a rewatch and something big sticks out to me:
The early seasons were full of side characters who were played by actors who commanded your attention with great screen presence

Yoren
Lord commander Mormont
Benjen Stark
Craster
Syrio Forel
Qhorin Halfhand
Maester Luwin
The blackfish
Great jon Umber
Mance Rayder

And then the bigger ones like Tywin, King Robert, Barristan Selmy, Drogo

Almost Every single one of these characters were killed off by season 5 and I think it really hurt the series losing so many of them

And replaced them with random cameos of celebrities.
 
And replaced them with random cameos of celebrities.

One cameo that might not be obvious to a lot of people outside of Denmark was Frank Hvam as the slightly grumpy administrator type person, when Sam checks into the citadel to become a maester. He is a Danish comedian, actor and producer most well-known for starring in the comedy series "Clown", which is heavily inspired by Curb your Enthusiasm. Apparently the GOT producers were fans of the show, so offered to give him a minor role. The kicker, however, was that his accent is so heavy that they couldn't include his own lines it in the episode - it had to be dubbed. I was so taken aback when I saw a B-tier Danish celebrity suddenly show up in Games of Thrones with someone else delivering his lines :lol: Amatuer hour.

This is the scene: Link.
 
Decided to do a rewatch and something big sticks out to me:
The early seasons were full of side characters who were played by actors who commanded your attention with great screen presence

Yoren
Lord commander Mormont
Benjen Stark
Craster
Syrio Forel
Qhorin Halfhand
Maester Luwin
The blackfish
Great jon Umber
Mance Rayder

And then the bigger ones like Tywin, King Robert, Barristan Selmy, Drogo

Almost Every single one of these characters were killed off by season 5 and I think it really hurt the series losing so many of them
Not to mention Oberyn who stole every single scene he was in during the fourth season.
 
I agree that the show went down hill from season 6. Although season 6 also had arguably the best finale and episode of the entire series. Think it was to do with no book material to use and the writers getting bored, but more likely just not be able to work without source content and dialogue.

One thing I don’t agree with is the hate for Danaery’s going mad/bad. I think that was always the plan and the seeds were planted from very early on that sooner or later her angry side would take over
 
I agree that the show went down hill from season 6. Although season 6 also had arguably the best finale and episode of the entire series. Think it was to do with no book material to use and the writers getting bored, but more likely just not be able to work without source content and dialogue.

One thing I don’t agree with is the hate for Danaery’s going mad/bad. I think that was always the plan and the seeds were planted from very early on that sooner or later her angry side would take over

As with lots of the end content, the issue comes from the speed she turns, eroding seasons of character development and pacing.

I doubt many would have complained if the transformation happened over a number of seasons.
 
I agree that the show went down hill from season 6. Although season 6 also had arguably the best finale and episode of the entire series. Think it was to do with no book material to use and the writers getting bored, but more likely just not be able to work without source content and dialogue.

One thing I don’t agree with is the hate for Danaery’s going mad/bad. I think that was always the plan and the seeds were planted from very early on that sooner or later her angry side would take over

Curious what seeds you are talking about? In early seasons she was brutal against people that wronged her, such as her brother, Mirri Maz Duur, the warlocks and whatever. But that also applies to other characters. Jon Snow hangs a child as payback, for instance.
What are the seeds that indicated she would slaughter thousands of innocents?
 
Not to mention Oberyn who stole every single scene he was in during the fourth season.

People talk about last two seasons being terrible, but my god, the 4th season was a bore. Basically they stretched out the Tyrion trial over a whole season. Perhaps non book readers feel differently, but for me it was the worst season, despite the writing getting worse in the last few seasons.
 
Curious what seeds you are talking about? In early seasons she was brutal against people that wronged her, such as her brother, Mirri Maz Duur, the warlocks and whatever. But that also applies to other characters. Jon Snow hangs a child as payback, for instance.
What are the seeds that indicated she would slaughter thousands of innocents?
Less actions and more personality traits. Which was something the early seasons did well at showing. Can’t remember too many specific moments at the top of my head as not watched for so long.

But I remember before, she turned, discussing her character with a friend. I contrasted her to Jon. Jon was instinctively good, he didn’t need to think “what would a good person do” or be advised against doing bad. Danaery’s always came across as someone who was “trying to be good” and often needed counsel against “burning everything down”. In tense situations or when things got difficult she often appeared to be fighting her real nature.

Now she’s obviously not evil in a cunning or sadistic way. But when her obsession is to rule the 7 kingdom and she has dragons and an army then you could see that mass slaughter was a possibility.
 
People talk about last two seasons being terrible, but my god, the 4th season was a bore. Basically they stretched out the Tyrion trial over a whole season. Perhaps non book readers feel differently, but for me it was the worst season, despite the writing getting worse in the last few seasons.
To each his own. I think it's widely regarded as the best season. Personally I have it as the best or second best behind three.
 
It started great and gradually it became worse and worse slowly until the last season when the decline was rapid and watched it just cause I was like - I'll watch it till the end cause I watch the whole thing but its a disaster.
 
It started great and gradually it became worse and worse slowly until the last season when the decline was rapid and watched it just cause I was like - I'll watch it till the end cause I watch the whole thing but its a disaster.

Pretty much. The first 3-4 seasons are some of the best TV produced in my opinion, but by season 7-8 I wouldn’t even call it good anymore. The character development, storytelling and acting all went south. No CGI budget makes up for that. It was just living on the name.
 
Pretty much. The first 3-4 seasons are some of the best TV produced in my opinion, but by season 7-8 I wouldn’t even call it good anymore. The character development, storytelling and acting all went south. No CGI budget makes up for that. It was just living on the name.
It became way worse when the show split from the books, Stannis' death after the battle of Winterfell, although Battle of the bastards was good, granted.
 




But, hey, it's alright because the later seasons had him making knob jokes.
 
It's crazy that people who enjoyed those types of scenes were okay with what the sow became.
 
People talk about last two seasons being terrible, but my god, the 4th season was a bore. Basically they stretched out the Tyrion trial over a whole season. Perhaps non book readers feel differently, but for me it was the worst season, despite the writing getting worse in the last few seasons.
Whaaaa?
I dont know many people that feel this way.
That was a great season, and had so many really good episodes. ALso the trial... he was basically taken prisoner in ep2, so from ep3 to ep 6 (ep 6 he has his trial and then calls for trial by combat). Then 8 is the combat episode.

Ill be surprised if people here thought it was the worst season (most im sure would have it near the top)
 
Whaaaa?
I dont know many people that feel this way.
That was a great season, and had so many really good episodes. ALso the trial... he was basically taken prisoner in ep2, so from ep3 to ep 6 (ep 6 he has his trial and then calls for trial by combat). Then 8 is the combat episode.

Ill be surprised if people here thought it was the worst season (most im sure would have it near the top)
Is season 4 where he gives the speech about being guilty?

If so then I take back what I said. It’s better than I gave it credit for. But I think some of the negativity might be because it’s where they started running out of book materiel. So you’ll have really great scenes and dialogue one moment followed by signs of we were going to be in for in future seasons.
 


This was the arguably the moment Game of Thrones died. How that line ended up in the show is beyond me.