The show was dead long before that. The last 2 seasons of GoT is one of the biggest fall from grace in TV history.
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The show was dead long before that. The last 2 seasons of GoT is one of the biggest fall from grace in TV history.
Was always a soap opera set in fantasy land with tits and arse. Some great tits and arse to be fair.
I would have had no issue with bran being king
Nor the heel turn of Dany if the leadup was better
It really needed three more seasons and it could have been fleshed out so much better
Nor the heel turn of Dany if the leadup was better
It really needed three more seasons and it could have been fleshed out so much better
The last two seasons were atrocious not only because they were objectively terribly written by themselves, but also because they nuked the character arcs and motivations that were beautifully developed over all the previous years.
Jamie's line about not caring about the people, Tyrion's braindead dialogue and decisions, Danny 'kind of forgot', Jon Snow's reveal turning out to be for nothing, Bran U-turning on his motivations - the list goes on.
What a fecking car crash. I hate D&D's smug incompetence with a passion. They took something so many of us loved and Toyota annihilated it.
Jamie's line about not caring about the people, Tyrion's braindead dialogue and decisions, Danny 'kind of forgot', Jon Snow's reveal turning out to be for nothing, Bran U-turning on his motivations - the list goes on.
What a fecking car crash. I hate D&D's smug incompetence with a passion. They took something so many of us loved and Toyota annihilated it.
I thought the final season started really well. It was the final 2/3 episodes that let it down as they basically just press fast forward on pretty much everything and ruined it.
The Episode where the army of the dead attack Winterfell in the Fog was fantastic though I thought. Very atmospheric.
The Episode where the army of the dead attack Winterfell in the Fog was fantastic though I thought. Very atmospheric.
Another plot point in the show I thought was weird was Jamie not knowing the relationship between Cersei and Lancel. In the books he's furious at her for it although I think he forgives Lancel.
Mind you in the show she sends Bron to kill him and that's completely forgotten/forgiven/never mentioned again
. That's one of the aspects of the bad writing for me, it was just such a throwaway tease that amounted to nothing.
Mind you in the show she sends Bron to kill him and that's completely forgotten/forgiven/never mentioned again
. That's one of the aspects of the bad writing for me, it was just such a throwaway tease that amounted to nothing.Bron was the real winner of GoT. He just kept upgrading every time we saw him
I mean how can anyone not think the guy saying "I'm the three eyed raven, I can't be lord of anything" followed by (paraphrasing here) "Surprise motherfeckers, I was playing 8d chess, this was my plan all along, I want to be King, but just not of north, that place is cold and smelly and I'm gonna leave it to my idiot sister" wasn't genius level writing?
And his sister next second saying; "Hey, btw north is leaving 7 kingdoms". On which he says; "Ah, ok. No problem".
While Ironborn who had a deal with Dany to leave and who should be pissed as feck because their queen is dead, saying nothing.
And all that while you have half Targaryen half Stark alive.
Bran was horribly portrayed in the show. I mean I understand why he is a good choice and it made sense to me. But he was just forgotten about in the show, barely appearing and the groundwork wasn't laid.
Had to be a bastard watching a team of bastards.
He jinxed packers on the weekend too. Bastard
the back half of season 7, and the entirety of season 8 are some of the dumbest TV I've ever seen. Feck the showrunners or anyone else blaming "toxic Twitter" for the backlash. There are times where internet culture goes OTT in criticizing such things, but that wasn't the case with GoT at all.
A shame, because the first 6 seasons might be the best in TV history (outside of The Wire, obviously).
A shame, because the first 6 seasons might be the best in TV history (outside of The Wire, obviously).
Couldn't agree more.
Kinda an odd bump by me.
Watching the final season on Sky Atlantic to pass time (have something in the background as I did some work)
Episode 3 as a standalone episode is entertaining. Some of the things certainly dont make sense, but outside of that, its still an entertaining episode with some great action scenes. And the music to the end for the night king is probably the best music (along with end of s6) for GoT. The music accompanies the ending really good.
I also remember everybody complaining about lighting ...
However episode 4, everything about it is stupid. Its probably the worst one of the season. I kinda stopped on ep5 when the Varys clone gets killed for doing unVarys type things. I forgot how stupid the dragon death thing was.
Also didnt realise its been 4 years since the final season started.
Was also reading about Dunk & Egg being ordered as a TV show officially, so I guess thats news
Watching the final season on Sky Atlantic to pass time (have something in the background as I did some work)
Episode 3 as a standalone episode is entertaining. Some of the things certainly dont make sense, but outside of that, its still an entertaining episode with some great action scenes. And the music to the end for the night king is probably the best music (along with end of s6) for GoT. The music accompanies the ending really good.
I also remember everybody complaining about lighting ...
However episode 4, everything about it is stupid. Its probably the worst one of the season. I kinda stopped on ep5 when the Varys clone gets killed for doing unVarys type things. I forgot how stupid the dragon death thing was.
Also didnt realise its been 4 years since the final season started.
Was also reading about Dunk & Egg being ordered as a TV show officially, so I guess thats news
Yes, it was an abomination of a finale. GOT was forgotten until GRRM resurrected the interest with HOTD last year. The backlash was crazy back then, from one of the best shows to rival the brilliance of Breaking Bad, it was considered a massive failure in the end.
It was a broken franchise, barely saved by the author himself. I'm glad we have HOTD now.
Might give this another watch soon.
After a slowish start I remember being blown away in those first few seasons..
Was hard at first keeping track of who was bumming who and why,
throw in a few whores, boobs a lot of dialogue, thousands of characters and boobs and medieval violence...I eventually loved it
minus the last season which was ok, up there with The Sopranos as one of my favourite shows of all time.
After a slowish start I remember being blown away in those first few seasons..
Was hard at first keeping track of who was bumming who and why,
throw in a few whores, boobs a lot of dialogue, thousands of characters and boobs and medieval violence...I eventually loved it
minus the last season which was ok, up there with The Sopranos as one of my favourite shows of all time.
I restarted yesterday myself. Seeing Mark Addy for only 7 episodes and Sean Bean for 9 are still two of the best characters from all the seasons.
I missed this! Fingers crossed it's good, loved the novellas.
I loved it up to the end but the end was just so absolutely terrible that I could never rewatch the show again.
It would be impossible to me to watch something that I would know ends so horrifically.
Saw the episode Season 8 episode 3 for about 30 seconds last night before I had to turn it off. Still not over it. Everything was soo fecking stupid beyond comprehension. Love the show all the before that episode. The first 2 were going great with all the characters meeting up. Then...yeah. I love tue show still but 8 just hurts.
Bow, bow you shits!
... you've got fat.
Sean Bean's little look down then the giggles
he was brilliant every second of the season."Five. One." is still my favourite.... you've got fat.
Sean Bean's little look down then the giggles
Pretty sure it was a D&D addition as well.
Perfect casting decision... you've got fat.
Sean Bean's little look down then the giggles
Standout sayings for sure.
Not even in doubt. A vile king when you think about it, but so likeable at the same time.
Varis clone? Are you kidding, it was 100% in character for the master of whispers.
What master of whispers doesn't stand on a beach in ear shot of everyone saying "We have to murder the queen" to said queens boyfriend nephew who has spent 2 years shouting "I don't wan it, Steve McQueen" to everyone who'll listen.
It just became a parody of itself. The final episode hit like a Seinfeld episode at times.
I was thinking, its gonna be a long time until we see a phenomenon like this again. Somebody at work hasnt seen this but knows about the red wedding, and Jon Snow. Crazy.
https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2023/04/14/a-knight-and-a-squire/
"working title will be A KNIGHT OF THE SEVEN KINGDOMS: THE HEDGE KNIGHT. Whether that will be the final title, I can’t say for sure… beyond saying that no, it won’t be called TALES OF DUNK & EGG or THE ADVENTURES OF DUNK & EGG or DUNK & EGG or anything along those lines."
I think it was him almost drowning the episode before that made him forget who he was...
The funny thing is, I actually liked one of the last things he did, which was try to subtly poison Dany through her food and that girl in the kitchen, which wasnt on the nose, but more what he was like.
What was okay about it?
Ok im not a massive game of thrones nerd, i think it felt rushed but i still really enjoyed it.
Neither am I. Just going by the show, the shift in tone and the general decline was so blatant (admittedly not only in Season 8) and the writing got so horrendous that I just can't get over the fact some people think nothing much was wrong with the show's final seasons. I know enjoyment is subjective, and back when they originally aired I was looking forward to the new episode as much as the next guy, but the series was so incredibly bad by the end that I struggle to process even mildly positive opinions about it now that we all have had time to take some distance
I don't think you have to be a Game of Thrones "nerd" or addict to see that the last few seasons were clearly an enormous drop off in quality, all around. I think the only thing you need are eyes and ears. Actually maybe even just ears.
I still maintain that although the last two episodes of Season 6 were fun, bombastic, spectacles they ruined the show. Especially the final scene where you see Dany and her massive army sailing over. Her numbers are far too great compared to anyone else's, and she has Dorne and the Reach on her side.Neither am I. Just going by the show, the shift in tone and the general decline was so blatant (admittedly not only in Season 8) and the writing got so horrendous that I just can't get over the fact some people think nothing much was wrong with the show's final seasons. I know enjoyment is subjective, and back when they originally aired I was looking forward to the new episode as much as the next guy, but the series was so incredibly bad by the end that I struggle to process even mildly positive opinions about it now that we all have had time to take some distance
"Ooooh, Cersei is going to be fecked!" Yeah, more than likely. She should also have the entirety of King's Landing wanting her head on a spike after destroying the Sept. But, feck reality, just have every single one of her enemies make incredibly dumb decisions so she has a chance, and brush any problems under the carpet.
The writing was on the wall in Season 5 with Ramsay's ten good men just somehow wrecking Stannis and him saying "Nah, suddenly I'm going to stop being practical. Let's just march on and all die in a big field together".
Ideally Dany would have marched on King's Landing to find it utterly fecked up, half of the peasants dead from riots and the remaining ones demanding independence after Cersei has run off to Casterly Rock. Dany thinks she'll get a hero's welcome and instead she's met with rejection.
feck it; you could have Drogon eat the Night King and have him flying above Westeros, shitting out little white walker turds that chase after folk, and it would have been better
Added to that, Arya getting stabbed numerous times, falling into water, then being chased by the female terminator was.... out there.
The ending of s6 was fantastic imo. And it should have played into Cersei inviting people 'in' to use them as a shield against Danys army. Meaning Danys army would do what they suggested in s8, cut out food supplies etc (but in doing that the people inside see Dany as this invader being bad thus not accepting her as the hero).
The three episodes, The bells, Long Night, Beyond the Wall, were all spectacles. If you watch it as a standalone episode, with no context, they arent bad and are actually fun. But in terms of the story, the characters and logical decisions, they can all be easily torn apart (and hell, they all have been). Thus reality is, none of them make sense at all except for, we got big budget, lets use it.
Last of the Starks however is the worst episode for me, because its all just stupid, throughout.
Ep1 and moreso ep2 I thought were really built well and good character episodes. Ep2 however became kinda pointless once ep3 happened and concluded.
Ep2 also kinda became pointless with what happened in Last of the Starks too.
You also could have had a seasons worth of content after The Long Night episode.
And then another seasons worth of content after The Bells episode.
I never got so far in the novels relative to the series. Do you both know if these scenes happened in the books or were more "creative adaptation"?
Creatively shat out of the brains of the masterminds that brought us "Haha Varys has zero penis Iol"
I mean, everytime Tyrion popped out those 7 altering lines about Varys, I burst out laughing. I Guess penis jokes still get me at my age.
Did you laugh like Bronn did whenever he heard "Dickon Tarly"?
Everyone likes the odd knob joke but when it's Tyrion, who used to be so witty with his retorts, doing it over and over it got a bit dry.
Unlike my knob lmfao