Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

I must admit.

How do we control dragons? Use a magic horn.
How do we bring down the wall? Use a magic horn.
Was silly. I don't think the show would have benefited going that route.

The problem is that with the introduction of the White Walkers and dragons GRRM introduced 2 unsupportable forces into his world and with the introduction of the wall he added an immovable object. The reason he hasn't finished the books is because how do you resolve these issues without it looking silly.

Option 1 - Follow the same idea with the Night King getting the dragon
Option 2 - Have it so when Bran is touched by the Night King and he passes the wall the magic protecting it is broken. This would need the Night King doing something swanky to bring it down.

I actually liked the idea of the Night King getting a Dragon, but the concept of using their best fighters to go North of the Wall to capture a wight was pretty stupid.

What we needed was to have the Dragons and walkers go directly against one another, we didn't really get that in the show, we had it briefly when all 3 flew North to rescue Jon and co but nothing at Winterfell. Along with that the dragon glass seemed to be largely redundant in the show, which was a little bizarre given how it was a pretty important part of Season 7. We didn't get anything like at Helms Deep where the defenders sprayed volley after volley of arrows at the undead. There are methods of doing it, I just think it was very badly thought out ultimately.
 
It'll probably be alright if the source material is finished.

Well they certainly have proven to be excellent at adapting and realizing fantastic novels. Stick to their strengths. Anyway it was an impossible challenge and I suppose they succeeded in completing the incomplete (otherwise we would have never seen an ending). Dreadful as it was.
 

Yeah I think they will do great at just adapting something if its finished and they are all in.

Option 1 - Follow the same idea with the Night King getting the dragon
Option 2 - Have it so when Bran is touched by the Night King and he passes the wall the magic protecting it is broken. This would need the Night King doing something swanky to bring it down.

I actually liked the idea of the Night King getting a Dragon, but the concept of using their best fighters to go North of the Wall to capture a wight was pretty stupid.

What we needed was to have the Dragons and walkers go directly against one another, we didn't really get that in the show, we had it briefly when all 3 flew North to rescue Jon and co but nothing at Winterfell. Along with that the dragon glass seemed to be largely redundant in the show, which was a little bizarre given how it was a pretty important part of Season 7. We didn't get anything like at Helms Deep where the defenders sprayed volley after volley of arrows at the undead. There are methods of doing it, I just think it was very badly thought out ultimately.

So did the valyrian steel swords. I mean they were just used to kill normal wights. No actual use against WW (after seeing Jon destroy one or two)
 
Yeah I think they will do great at just adapting something if its finished and they are all in.


So did the valyrian steel swords. I mean they were just used to kill normal wights. No actual use against WW (after seeing Jon destroy one or two)

Except the one used to kill the NK?
 
Except the one used to kill the NK?
I mean her one was basically put together the night or day before
The others seemed to have story from being handed down or melted down or whatever

You had several holders of the main swords who did nothing that a normal dragon glass dagger wouldn't do
 
I mean her one was basically put together the night or day before
The others seemed to have story from being handed down or melted down or whatever

You had several holders of the main swords who did nothing that a normal dragon glass dagger wouldn't do

No it wasn't. It was the Catspaw dagger that the assassin used to try and kill Bran in season one. The same one she used to kill Littlefinger.
 
Nah, the weapon she used was Littlefingers dagger which has been probably the most seen weapon in the show.
No it wasn't. It was the Catspaw dagger that the assassin used to try and kill Bran in season one. The same one she used to kill Littlefinger.
Ok fair and I'll concede that despite saying it was put together as a weapon for arya (but yeah that's same as the other one being melted so I'll give to that)

But still the other ones? How much use did they get? May have to watch that episode again but can't remember them coming into play
 
Ok fair and I'll concede that despite saying it was put together as a weapon for arya (but yeah that's same as the other one being melted so I'll give to that)

But still the other ones? How much use did they get? May have to watch that episode again but can't remember them coming into play

None of the others did no. They were largely irrelevant, but lets be honest, the entire Winterfell battle was largely irrelevant, I really fecking hated that episode. It had one awesome looking shot with the Dothraki charging in (which was dumb as shit, but at least the shot looked awesome and helped build the tension) but the rest of the episode was just terrible. Honestly everything about it pissed me off.
 
None of the others did no. They were largely irrelevant, but lets be honest, the entire Winterfell battle was largely irrelevant, I really fecking hated that episode. It had one awesome looking shot with the Dothraki charging in (which was dumb as shit, but at least the shot looked awesome and helped build the tension) but the rest of the episode was just terrible. Honestly everything about it pissed me off.

If you watch it as a one off with no context it's lovely to watch
Of course that's the issue
It doesn't take into consideration everything that happened before and well what will happen I guess which as a story it should
 
Don't know much about these Remembrance of Earth's Past books at all, except what I've read today after the news broke. Seems interesting enough. D&D showrunners with Alexander Woo. Rian Johnson, Brad Pitt and Rosamund Pike attached as producers. Bernadette Caulfield and the book's original author and translator also closely involved. Seems like a diverse and level-headed writers room with some reliable producers behind them. Won't be another GOT-level hit but could get a good cult following.
 
The Three Body trilogy is absolutely epic and I've been dreaming of an adaptation since I read them all a few years back.

Didn't expect I'd see one so soon, and while I'll never make my peace with D&D for how they ended GoT, I'm confident it'll be great with all the talent involved.

Let's just hope they don't get bored halfway through the series...:nervous:
 
The Three Body trilogy is absolutely epic and I've been dreaming of an adaptation since I read them all a few years back.

Didn't expect I'd see one so soon, and while I'll never make my peace with D&D for how they ended GoT, I'm confident it'll be great with all the talent involved.

Let's just hope they don't get bored halfway through the series...:nervous:
Nah not halfway - just close to the end of the show so you wonder why you every invested so much time in it to begin with. :nervous:
 
The Three Body trilogy is absolutely epic and I've been dreaming of an adaptation since I read them all a few years back.

Didn't expect I'd see one so soon, and while I'll never make my peace with D&D for how they ended GoT, I'm confident it'll be great with all the talent involved.

Let's just hope they don't get bored halfway through the series...:nervous:
Isn’t only the first book good? I thought it was quite interesting though there were parts of it I didn’t like. I stopped on the second book though, found it really garbage. Finally some series that I won’t know what will happen.
 
Isn’t only the first book good? I thought it was quite interesting though there were parts of it I didn’t like. I stopped on the second book though, found it really garbage. Finally some series that I won’t know what will happen.
I remember thinking the 2nd book was the best of the 3, though they all kind of bleed in to one now.

A quick glance at goodreads suggests that book 2 is the highest rated, while book 1 is the lowest.
 
I remember thinking the 2nd book was the best of the 3, though they all kind of bleed in to one now.

A quick glance at goodreads suggests that book 2 is the highest rated, while book 1 is the lowest.
Dunno. It went from excellent science-fiction to some random Chinese guy being chosen as the savior and all he was doing was chasing a girl that he saw in his dreams. I think I gave up at 20-30% of it.
 
Dunno. It went from excellent science-fiction to some random Chinese guy being chosen as the savior and all he was doing was chasing a girl that he saw in his dreams. I think I gave up at 20-30% of it.
Fair enough. I don't actually remember that at all... the books are very dense and there's a shit ton to take in.

I do wonder if the adaptation will retain the Chinese setting.

Should probably make a new thread at this point...
 
Had one of the most badass mic drop exits in GoT. She'll be remembered forever because of it. Rest in Peace
 
Love the way they used her to basically admit how shite the Sand Snakes were:

 
Was a great character with great dialogue. The actress was just superb at delivering the lines

And agreed about her exit. Her scenes with Tywin were brilliant just to see somebody spar with him and more than hold her own
 
Jesus. Remember this was a phenom of a tv series? On course to go down as one of the GOATs?

Cant get over how awful season 7 and second half of season 8 were. Suppose the signs where there in season 5 onwards but the drop in writing quality.

My word. I was obessed with this show. :(
 
Jesus. Remember this was a phenom of a tv series? On course to go down as one of the GOATs?

Cant get over how awful season 7 and second half of season 8 were. Suppose the signs where there in season 5 onwards but the drop in writing quality.

My word. I was obessed with this show. :(
7 was good at least. Going fast sure, but still told the story. 8 was just a clusterfeck definitely. I do like the first 3 eps. After that. Oof
 
7 was good at least. Going fast sure, but still told the story. 8 was just a clusterfeck definitely. I do like the first 3 eps. After that. Oof
Season 7 had the last intrigue plot of the show, even if it was absolutely terrible. When Littlefinger was gone and Varys did absolutely bugger all apart from become a dick joke the last two people who were playing the Game were gone.
 
Season 7 had the last intrigue plot of the show, even if it was absolutely terrible. When Littlefinger was gone and Varys did absolutely bugger all apart from become a dick joke the last two people who were playing the Game were gone.


You forgot bran
The ultimate game player
Let so many die just to get there
Why do you think he came all that way?
 
7 was good at least. Going fast sure, but still told the story. 8 was just a clusterfeck definitely. I do like the first 3 eps. After that. Oof

Season 7 was still crap. It included possibly the worst episode of the whole show - episode 6, 'Beyond the wall'. It made absolutely no sense at all.
 
I always wished they had kept the original dialoge in the Tower of joy scene and I always wanted to see Dawn(Arthur Dayne's legendary sword) as well. They did it well, but i felt it would have been much better just sticking with the original material.

They were seven, facing three. In the dream as it had been in “life. Yet these were no ordinary three. They waited before the round tower, the red mountains of Dorne at their backs, their white cloaks blowing in the wind. And these were no shadows; their faces burned clear, even now. Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning, had a sad smile on his lips.

The hilt of the greatsword Dawn poked up over his right shoulder. Ser Oswell Whent was on one knee, sharpening his blade with a whetstone. Across his white-enameled helm, the black bat of his House spread its wings. Between them stood fierce old Ser Gerold Hightower, the White Bull, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard. “I looked for you on the Trident,” Ned said to them.

“We were not there,” Ser Gerold answered. “Woe to the Usurper if we had been,” said Ser Oswell. “When King’s Landing fell, Ser Jaime slew your king with a golden sword, and I wondered where you were.” “Far away,” Ser Gerold said, “or Aerys would yet sit the Iron Throne, and our false brother would burn in seven hells.” “I came down on Storm’s End to lift the siege,” Ned told them, .,and the and the Lords Tyrell and Redwyne dipped their banners, and all their knights bent the knee to pledge us fealty. I was certain you would be among them.”

“Our knees do not bend easily,” said Ser Arthur Dayne. “Ser Willem Darry is fled to Dragonstone, with your queen and Prince Viserys. I thought you might have sailed with him.” “Ser Willem is a good man and true,” said Ser Oswell. “But not of the Kingsguard,” Ser Gerold pointed out. “The Kingsguard does not flee.” “Then or now,” said Ser Arthur. He donned his helm. “We swore a vow,” explained old Ser Gerold.

Ned’s wraiths moved up beside him, with shadow swords in hand. They were seven against three. “And now it begins,” said Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning. He unsheathed Dawn and held it with both hands. The blade was pale as milkglass, alive with light.

“No,” Ned said with sadness in his voice. “Now it ends.” As they came together in a rush of steel and shadow, he could hear Lyanna screaming. “Eddard!” she called. A storm of rose petals blew across a blood-streaked sky, as blue as the eyes of death.”. “Lord Eddard,” Lyanna called again. “I promise,” he whispered. “Lya, I promise”
 
You forgot bran
The ultimate game player
Let so many die just to get there
Why do you think he came all that way?
Ah, of course. When you play the Game of Thrones you either win or you scratch your arse for eight seasons and fall into the position.
 
You forgot bran
The ultimate game player
Let so many die just to get there
Why do you think he came all that way?

Sansa tried to sabotage him though by declaring to everyone at the council that he's impotent. Real mastermind she is.