Honestly never seen anything like it when it ended. Even now, people don’t want to even acknowledge it, talk about it, even wear clothes with GOT on it. Hell myself I was excited, waiting for the show to end so that I could buy the box set and put it next to the GOT box set of books that I have. Now I don’t even want to buy it. It’s just too damn painful. Nothing made a lick of sense in S8. It turned Everything upside down and did nothing the fans even half expected. Jon never even fought the Night King after they have stared each other down twice! Even more painful that the first 2 episodes of S8 were perfect and brilliantly set up for epicness.
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D&D confused "subverting expectations" and "actions having cause and effect" because they're fecking idiots.
They fooled millions into believing their tracing papered masterpieces were their own work, until they ran out of things to copy and started drawing toddler quality dinosaurs.
It’s even more strange since this should have been such a easy season to direct. 2 big battles and a standard ending. Couldn’t even do that.
It's part of what happens when you adapt something the quality of which is absurdly high, then you either are forced to or choose to start writing your own stuff. It will be compared to quality of what you were adapting and if it falls short people will notice. Although GoT got away with it for a while where people seemed to be in a sort of weird denial that the quality of the writing was getting worse and worse. Then you had absolute weirdos aggressively defending it right up until the end.
I think it will be a phenomenon that will happen again and again now as Hollywood is creatively bankrupt, they will keep rehashing and adapting things then trying to put new spins on them that don't work until they drive people away then move on to the next project. The same with the gaming industry, they will keep remaking things from the 90's to the 2010s for the next decade or two and fall into the same trap through sheer hubris.
Well nearly everything is either an adaptation, reboot, a remake from a different country or a sequel / prequel. So yeah, youre right.
With regards to the denial part, I kinda fall into that. I knew there was stupid stuff from previous season (but that still seemed to be less than the good stuff so yeah, they defo got away with it). But in s7, the characters going out to get a wight, and the way they came up with the idea, who just mind boggling. It created a cool visual with a dragon going down and being turned, but it was a mess. However, again they got away with it, due to the fact that I (and many others) were still looking towards the big battles. I somewhat foolishly thought, 'ok theyve rushed a few things to get to a point in the story, and now they can deliver a great ending and not have to rush that'. But then what they delivered just soured everything.
So just finished season 2 again and in the final episode it all foreshadowed the throne room being burnt to the ground.
They obviously planned for dany to go mad and burn it all down they just rushed getting there.
Id forgotten how bad she was at the start, she threatens to burn everyone and everything quite often so she was just returning to her old ways.
They obviously planned for dany to go mad and burn it all down they just rushed getting there.
Id forgotten how bad she was at the start, she threatens to burn everyone and everything quite often so she was just returning to her old ways.
The final season of GoT tarnishes the series massively, moreso than say The Wire which had a weaker final season compared to the others but didn't completely shit the bed and make the rest of the series seem bad by osmosis.
GoT is the only show I can think of where I havent rewatched it in its entirety because of how bad the ending was. I even gave LOST a second chance.
If we ever get the last two books I'll likely look back on this series with fond memories as some fan fiction that filled the gap between books.
GoT is the only show I can think of where I havent rewatched it in its entirety because of how bad the ending was. I even gave LOST a second chance.
If we ever get the last two books I'll likely look back on this series with fond memories as some fan fiction that filled the gap between books.
Season 4 episode 2 bran saw into the future and a dragon was flying over kings landing.
Reitering they done what they wanted they just rushed getting there, there wasnt a last minute change of mind
I think most people accept this. The rush job for me is the most annoying thing
They could have ended up in the same place without characters being dumbed down
There was also the flash forward stuff in season 2 where the mad Queen seen kings landing all burnt down to feck.
The whole thing seems like they really just couldn't be arsed towards the end.
Awh i thought there was a bit of annoyance at the actual sequence of events as much as the hurry to get there.
Did grrm kill tywin of in the books?
Would have liked to have seen him in it longer
Would have liked to have seen him in it longer
in the books Tyrion shoots him in the guts with the crossbow and they spill out. When the Lannister guards find him they comment on how much it stinks of shit. So, a tad more gruesome.
He also gets more to do in the show, in the books he's kind of...well...shite
He also gets more to do in the show, in the books he's kind of...well...shite
Same question for oberyn? Maybe its just pedro pascal but i would have liked him to hang around a bit longer
Nah Oberyn is just as much a badass in the books too. He was pretty much spot on.
Nah he comes and goes in much the same way. He doesn’t feature in many chapters in Storm of Swords but he’s every bit as memorable as on the show. However the books being the books, we learn a lot more about Oberyn’s backstory which is very interesting.
The cockiness in the trial by combat is part of his character but it would have been interesting to see him win and continue his story at Tyrions side.
Must read the books after my re watch
Oberyn got what he deserved. Consequences for his actions
Some of the sequences were defo terrible. The way little finger went out
The way dany lost her second dragon despite being in the air and kinda forgetting about an army she's going to scout
The way varys did everything he's never done
Things like that.
I accept that some of the stuff needed to happen or was the intention but the way they worked to it just made no sense and needed more time to breath or just better plotting
Some of the sequences were defo terrible. The way little finger went out
The way dany lost her second dragon despite being in the air and kinda forgetting about an army she's going to scout
The way varys did everything he's never done
Things like that.
I accept that some of the stuff needed to happen or was the intention but the way they worked to it just made no sense and needed more time to breath or just better plotting
In season 5 ep 5 bronn asked Jamie how he wants to die and he said in the arms of the woman he loves.
Might lead to them planning the Cersei Jamie death all long which makes it even more stupid
Might lead to them planning the Cersei Jamie death all long which makes it even more stupid
They also asked Tyrion how he wanted to die, and his answer was always the same, but they didnt plan that...
Forgot how much i hated the high sparrow part of the show
He really could ramble for ages, couldnt he?
The episode they go north looking for a dead man is stupid. The timing of it ie the raven getting to dany and her getting there in a few hours, how jon survived, why didnt benjen go with him?
Possibly the worst done episode of the whole show
Possibly the worst done episode of the whole show
That's up against some pretty stiff competition in season 8
There was no time for that.
He was such a cnut I ended up liking the character in the end.
Trying to capture a dead man to prove to prove to the woman with a giant dead man beside her that there are dead men walking around in the north was a phenomenal plan.
In fairness tyrion didnt know that
In that episode there was loads of time ha
Haha
Was that the true ‘jump the shark’ moment? If not, it was jumping the shark and doing backflips over it.
Arya being stabbed twice in the gut, the knife being twisted and then continuing the big the chase scene with the waif was the first raised eyebrow from me.
That was defo a visual over logic episode
It has some cool visuals but the way they got there just made no sense or didn't follow
I remember being caught up by the visuals of the gang being surrounded by the army of the dead, or Dany coming to the rescue, or the dragon going down, or it's eye going blue.
But a lot of it just didn't make sense especially on a rewatch. Where the NK got chains is one thing, but given they don't go in water, how did they actually get the chains around it under water.
It's been discussed a lot here but the frustrating thing is a lot of the above could have still happened logically if they wanted
It has some cool visuals but the way they got there just made no sense or didn't follow
I remember being caught up by the visuals of the gang being surrounded by the army of the dead, or Dany coming to the rescue, or the dragon going down, or it's eye going blue.
But a lot of it just didn't make sense especially on a rewatch. Where the NK got chains is one thing, but given they don't go in water, how did they actually get the chains around it under water.
It's been discussed a lot here but the frustrating thing is a lot of the above could have still happened logically if they wanted
Yea on rewatch its the first one for me that has me going "wtf" apart from the arya stabbing and running incident mentioned above but it was minor in scheme the of things.
Even then season finale was fine , showing Cersei the dead man and her playing her games etc, just that one episode.
I didnt think season 8 was as bad as others did first time round so itl be interesting what i make of it on rewatch.
I think so far, apart from that one episode ive enjoyed it even more than my original viewing. Probably because im binge watching it rather than waiting a year between seasons.
Season 1-5 is the peak of television.
S6 had some fantastic episodes though. Door and the last two esp were great. And I think Oathbreaker? the one where Bran sees the stuff at the Tower of Joy?
Actually thought overall it was better than 5 (although 5 has probably a top3 episode for me)
The fecking sandsnakes though...
I think this is the Sand Snakes’ first scene. Bad enough and it was all downhill from there:
Yeah you're right. Tbh I'm talking bollocks as it's been so long since I've watched it I can't remember my exact timeline of feeling. I remember the sand snakes were the first signs of decay, and dialogue between characters took a huge nose dive at a precise point until the very end. Battle of the bastards was wicked though.