Yeah they butchered their own show.
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Yeah they butchered their own show.
It is notable that the end of the 3rd book coincided with the start of the decline.
For the unspoiled, book 3 covers most of seasons 3 & 4. And it’s fantastic, highly recommended.
Yeah, spot on.
Also Bran. I cant be king of anything. Few episodes later. Hes the new king of Westeros
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...... It seems to have disappeared from pop culture, more or less. Or maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places.
True.
Also the fact that they started out with the intention to adapt GRRM's books and not complete the story for him. The show started in 2011, co-incidentally DwD came out in 2011. Dumb and Dumber have since completed the entire story and the fat feck is sat twiddling his thumbs on Word Star and has not progressed beyond the last book.
Talk about what is dead may never die.
Lock this damn thread, brings back sad memories of this utter train wreck it became.
Lock this damn thread, brings back sad memories of this utter train wreck it became.
Yeah even seeing this thread being bumped back to the top is making me pissy all over again.
Not even proper fan service either. It was service for the fans that like to talk over the dialogue and whoop loudly at the actiony bits whilst trying not to make eye contact with the camera in the bar filming their overly dramatic reactions.
It's amazing how destroying your shows legacy can affect your shows.....legacy.
Tbf. Look at who s currently the president here in the US. Bran kinda makes sense in comparison.Also Bran. I cant be king of anything. Few episodes later. Hes the new king of Westeros
Never forget! We should revisit this once a year so we can remember the dark times when entire cities moved just for one scene. When people forgot entire fleets. When something was built up as a threat for 7 seasons only to be taken out in an instant by an ill conceived ninja girl. When armies could be wiped out several episodes in a row only to return again and again almost as if the plot was entirely inconsequential next to the spectacle. Let us all remember "Sansa is the smartest person I've ever met." Let us never forget the "Bad Pussy" or that they decided the ruler of a kingdom based on the advice of a prisoner they had spent several years portraying as something of an idiot who's plans keep back firing and that whole thing with going north of the wall to capture a wight...Yeah even seeing this thread being bumped back to the top is making me pissy all over again.
How the feck did we all manage to watch it until the end?! I feel dumber just remembering half that shit.
Yes.....Them
*Drogon blasts a breath of fire melting the iron throne*
Fans: "it is symbolic because the iron throne and it's pursuit caused their mothers death"
DnD: "actually the chair was just in the way and we thought it would be cooler to see it melt in special effects"
Didn't they suggest they were not going to have a ruler on the iron throne as we need "change" and then proceed to elect Bran as the ruler on the throne?
Lock this thread for ever
I think if I ever rewatched the show, I'd finish my rewatch at the last episode of season 6. 5 and 6 weren't as good as the previous 4 but there were still plenty of interesting characters, plotlines and some outstanding episodes up until that point, I'd never watch the last 2 again.
"The dragon just kind of forgot that is was Jon who killed Dany".
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Season 7 was the ending for me. Sansa and Arya back at winterfell looking at the snowfall as there father was right. Winter has come. Shame we never saw the battle. Oh I bet that fight between the night king and Jon Snow would have been epic!
At least we're not as bad as Freefolk and wanking over each others shite alternative storylines.
"The show should have had three extra seasons. One for the battle against the Night King, one for the battle against Dany and Jon, and then one for something else."
"OMG SOOOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE GOT XOXOXOXOXOXOXOX"
"The show should have had three extra seasons. One for the battle against the Night King, one for the battle against Dany and Jon, and then one for something else."
"OMG SOOOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE GOT XOXOXOXOXOXOXOX"
r/freefolk with the occasional meme is the only good lasting legacy of the final two seasons.
I have no idea, they came out with so much bollocks that I've forgotten most of it. One of the best ones was "Thematically it made sense to us, because we wanted it to happen." They also changed the Dorne storyline because they liked one of the actresses angry face.
Sometimes I almost feel like we should hail them as absolutely phenomenal chancers that just blagged their way to the top for a while. Like Ali Dia only they got away with it for ages. Like praise them for getting it so right when they were that bad at it in the end.
Great, now i am pissed again. Thank you, you bastard.
Great, now i am pissed again. Thank you, you bastard.
I kind of forgot how despised those cretins were on here.
Completely ruined what could of been the best tv show of all time in the last two seasons. Criminal how they rushed it.
But it's nothing, it's some half assed sentence that doesn't go into any detail. Script writing is hard - REALLY hard. Take any idea you have and try to write it down. It becomes infinitely more difficult to take an idea and turn it into something tangible.That actually does sound better for story telling
As an idea it might sound more appealing but it doesn't go into any specifics at all, or answer any difficult questions such as "what are the A and B stories per episode" or "what about the kingindanorf". It's just a lazy way to get internet points and fortunately the Freefolk audience are so dense they'll accept anything that is negative against GoT, even if it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
But the Freefolk experts don't like it when you point that out to them. Or show them your Littlefinger.
Who are the freefolk community? I missed this as I kind of locked off GoT 1 week after the end of the season and never looked back
Oh I get all that, but the thought of more episodes to tell a story that we were given over 3 seasons rather than the one we got just indicates it would have more room to breath.
The issue I have is that d&d didn't just look to get writers on board to take the stress of themselves (unless they did which is bad)
But d&d did indicate an end point and then try and fit a story towards it working backwards with plot points rather than just naturally going forward and letting the story dictate how many EPs were required
I won't discuss directly to free folk as I haven't read it but I've seen some YouTube videos which do what you say and have put a lot of thought into it and seems more about trying to advance a story instead of getting to an end as quick as possible
All you need to know about Freefolk is Rob got his leaked information from them and they became whiny little bitches when Jon didn't become King. It's probably my second least favourite sub Reddit just after Am I The Asshole.
And, absolutely, D&D are terrible but it doesn't mean that Reddit isn't filled with tubes.
Anyone remember the "Was it really rape though?" discussion when Jaime banged Cersei in the sept?
It was like the vanilla vs vinegar discussion.
Aw man, do you not remember the whole drama surrounding Rob and his "guess the timeline" thing? It was a wild ride.
Probably the only thing I liked from the last season.
The problem is that while some characters' stories might benefit from extra seasons, others would have absolutely nowhere to go. So you'd get a lot more of the "pointless filler" storylines people here so loved, as characters basically wait around until other characters' plotlines have progressed enough for them to become relevant again.
It's a pacing problem that is built into adapting the structure of the books, I think. GRRM can and does happily park characters for multiple books if he wants to, whereas showrunners face logistical problems (most notably their actors' contracts) that limit what they can do. That's how you end up with a whole season of Theon being repetitively tortured as opposed to the character just being dropped for a bit as in the books. Or Arya being parked in assassin training school for longer than most fans were happy with until other plotlines have progressed enough for her to get moving again. Or characters seeming to have the ability to teleport as the story demands.
I'm not sure how else you could finish the show other than working backwards from the endpoint. If they just went with the flow it would be a meandering mess. Hell, even free of all these limitations GRRM has struggled both to manoeuvre characters around each other and to finish the story generally, so I don't think there was ever a perfectly graceful way to wrap the TV show up.
The real problem was that a lot of the writing within that was really, really stupid.
Bronn disappeared for a few seasons.
I don't mind this. People are not always doing exciting things.
They could always kill characters off. The great war with the white walkers is an opportunity to trim the fat and focus on more pressing arcs. The Hound for example could of been killed off then. Jaime perhaps (in one last heroic act), maybe even do an Avengers Endgame (if you know what I mean)
The writing was horrendous, there's no two ways about it.I still love that Cersei sent an assassin (Bronn) to actually murder her brothers and a few episodes later one brother is pleading with her outside the walls of King's Landing saying 'you're not a monster' and the other brother goes back to rescue her when the city falls. Not even a 'you sent someone to kill me you silly goose, but I forgive you'.
I don't understand how anyone could rewatch the show again as to me it would just be a complete waste of time.
Why watch hours of Jon Snow going on this epic journey only for it to not matter at all and the big reveal of he really is having no payback .
Same for Danerys ,Cersie and so many other storylines forgotten ie the faceless men,Dorne etc .
Strangely enough the best summary I've heard came from Kevin Hart who said this is another example of Hollywood and TV just rushing in when they shouldn't instead of just letting the guy write the books then doing the show.
If he finishes the books then great if he doesn't then let it be don't ruin it
Why watch hours of Jon Snow going on this epic journey only for it to not matter at all and the big reveal of he really is having no payback .
Same for Danerys ,Cersie and so many other storylines forgotten ie the faceless men,Dorne etc .
Strangely enough the best summary I've heard came from Kevin Hart who said this is another example of Hollywood and TV just rushing in when they shouldn't instead of just letting the guy write the books then doing the show.
If he finishes the books then great if he doesn't then let it be don't ruin it
Christ, this thread is a blast from the past!
I remember when everyone was excited about the upcoming seasons, giving their predictions on what they thought might happen - what they wanted to happen. Such an innocent time…
Still maintain that season 7 was the worst; absolute train wreck of a season that one. I don’t agree with the criticism about D&D being talentless hacks or anything of that nature though. That is just simply not true, obviously. I think it was more to do with the fact that they just lost their enthusiasm for the show and wanted to wrap it up. It was clearly rushed just to get it done and out the way, and it obviously had a negative impact on the show in the end.
The writing suffered big time, with some of the dialogue being particularly terrible. This was when we also saw the flanderization of certain characters - Tormund and Bronn in particular. The worst thing they did was to completely abandon one of the main things that made the show stand out, and that was the fact that no character had any plot armor. If they made mistakes or put themselves in situations where the logical outcome was death, then death it would be. Again, this wasn’t death for the sake of it, but one that made sense in context.
Season 7 and 8 basically just said “feck that” and nearly everyone became superhuman. A complete betrayal of the logic that the world had built up in previous seasons. I was thinking of doing a rewatch of the show, but who the feck has time for that. Even in the middle of a pandemic.
I remember when everyone was excited about the upcoming seasons, giving their predictions on what they thought might happen - what they wanted to happen. Such an innocent time…
Still maintain that season 7 was the worst; absolute train wreck of a season that one. I don’t agree with the criticism about D&D being talentless hacks or anything of that nature though. That is just simply not true, obviously. I think it was more to do with the fact that they just lost their enthusiasm for the show and wanted to wrap it up. It was clearly rushed just to get it done and out the way, and it obviously had a negative impact on the show in the end.
The writing suffered big time, with some of the dialogue being particularly terrible. This was when we also saw the flanderization of certain characters - Tormund and Bronn in particular. The worst thing they did was to completely abandon one of the main things that made the show stand out, and that was the fact that no character had any plot armor. If they made mistakes or put themselves in situations where the logical outcome was death, then death it would be. Again, this wasn’t death for the sake of it, but one that made sense in context.
Season 7 and 8 basically just said “feck that” and nearly everyone became superhuman. A complete betrayal of the logic that the world had built up in previous seasons. I was thinking of doing a rewatch of the show, but who the feck has time for that. Even in the middle of a pandemic.