Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

Lazy writing. i think he's a fan favourite, along with jon so they didn't kill them.

don't try to search for logical explanations, i stopped doing that. this season has been extremely shit and th last episode was the epitome of that.
You're right, GOT went from one of the best TV shows ever to a real joke
 
I still think Dany's death and subsequent lack of anyone giving a shit and there being basically zero repercussions to it (apart from Jon getting to go hang with his pet and best bud) is hilarious given that an episode and a half ago we were still supposed to be rooting for her as the ultimate goodie of the show.
 
Wasnt it Jon who told Arya to meet him at the gates?

I thought this too, and he also got arrested for regicide so he wasn't really in a position to follow through with the plan.
 
I was talking from a sense point of view, it made little sense for Jon to kill her the way he did when Arya was stood outside.

People not doing the logical, most simple thing is kind of fundamental to 99% of all scripted entertainment.
 
People not doing the logical, most simple thing is kind of fundamental to 99% of all scripted entertainment.

I can accept that when the alternative is actually well done....in this case it was terrible hence the criticism.
 
I think the magical dragon doing slightly weird things was the least problematic thing in the entire last season.
 
Ok. Watched it. It was ok. Not great but good enough. A few decent scenes and everything wrapped up fairly well. Some obvious flaws too but hey, when was the last time you saw a long running television reach its conclusion without any flaws? This didn’t even come close to the sort of closing episode feckery we’ve seen in, say, True Detective. That’s for damn sure.

I just have two final observations.

People who are getting really angry about this season are weird.

People who are actually writing loads of alternative endings are mental.

That is all.
 
Whilst it wasnt as good as previous seasons some of you guys who are annoyed are really coming up with equally shit if not worse ideas :lol:

this x100

all the stupid suggestions highlights that it's a difficult job. not saying they haven't messed things up, because they have, but i do give them some leeway given Martin has taken so fecking long.
 
Ok. Watched it. It was ok. Not great but good enough. A few decent scenes and everything wrapped up fairly well. Some obvious flaws too but hey, when was the last time you saw a long running television reach its conclusion without any flaws? This didn’t even come close to the sort of closing episode feckery we’ve seen in, say, True Detective. That’s for damn sure.

I just have two final observations.

People who are getting really angry about this season are weird.

People who are actually writing loads of alternative endings are mental.

That is all.
it was a waaaaaaaaay worse finale than True Detective's.
 
It's things like this that make me believe people are going over the top with some of their criticism.

The chair moment, however, stands out particularly, and serves as a final awkward indication of how far afield the HBO version of Game of Thrones ended up from where it began. It’s a scene that fits the mold of an prestige-TV finale, seemingly playing towards a final moral, or underscoring a governing theme. Why do we never figure out what happens to Tony Soprano at the diner? What does it say about both America andDon Draper that he created the most popular ad of the 1970s? A good finale must have a scene or element that looms large without being spelled out—breaking outside of the confines of literal plot significance or posing a final riddle. Here, Benioff and Weiss force our faces to the fire, demanding that we wonder why Tyrion moving these chairs is significant and wrangle with its implications, whatever we believe them to be.

https://www.spin.com/2019/05/game-of-thrones-final-insult-was-tyrion-messing-with-the-chairs/

So Tyrion making a bunch of chairs look neat and professional, then posing before his council just come in and start smacking them about has some kind of hidden meaning. What a load of pretentious feckwittery.
 
And what happened to the horse! Why did the horse get 3 mins of screen time last episode to only disappear now.

Where did it even take her. She was back near the red keep again. Dumb as feck.
 
Were in an age where people watch to be critics rather than to enjoy

Whether it has good or bad stuff, you can see people are more interested in discussing the negatives than the positives. It's just the way life is

I don't think any show has had this much scrutiny. It comes with being one of the biggest TV spectacles I guess. It does also lend to increasing ones popularity with videos tweets posts and articles + blogs.

Not saying everything should just be accepted cos fck euron. But there is defo of an element of some going ott
 
It's things like this that make me believe people are going over the top with some of their criticism.



https://www.spin.com/2019/05/game-of-thrones-final-insult-was-tyrion-messing-with-the-chairs/

So Tyrion making a bunch of chairs look neat and professional, then posing before his council just come in and start smacking them about has some kind of hidden meaning. What a load of pretentious feckwittery.

I think it’s quite astute really. The multi faceted intrigue that you would expect to accompany a true “greatest ever tv show” to have was abandoned in favour of throwbacks and caricature characters. “Tits and dragons” effectively, when it used to be so much more
 
Were in an age where people watch to be critics rather than to enjoy

Whether it has good or bad stuff, you can see people are more interested in discussing the negatives than the positives. It's just the way life is

I don't think any show has had this much scrutiny. It comes with being one of the biggest TV spectacles I guess. It does also lend to increasing ones popularity with videos tweets posts and articles + blogs.

Not saying everything should just be accepted cos fck euron. But there is defo of an element of some going ott
It's hard to enjoy the ending of something like GOT. I've liked the destruction of KL, how the red witch lit up the Dothraki swords, how Drogon was flying during the destruction of Euron's fleet.
From a visual POV, those things were very nice but the story and dialogues ? Not so much
this x100

all the stupid suggestions highlights that it's a difficult job. not saying they haven't messed things up, because they have, but i do give them some leeway given Martin has taken so fecking long.
There are also many suggestions that are much better than what the paid writers came up with.
 
it was a waaaaaaaaay worse finale than True Detective's.

Season 1?!? You have to be fecking joking!! The whole green paint nonsense. Come off it. It was pure drivel from start to finish. The GoT finale was just a bit Hollywood-y. Trying a bit too hard to give all the main characters a nice happy ending (which was out of keeping with the vibe of the series as a whole). Not even close to True Detective levels of outright nonsense.
 
Season 1?!? You have to be fecking joking!! The whole green paint nonsense. Come off it. It was pure drivel from start to finish. The GoT finale was just a bit Hollywood-y. Trying a bit too hard to give all the main characters a happy ending. Not even close to True Detective levels of outright nonsense.
The last scene with Rust and Marty was good, how they solved it was ridiculous indeed
 
Season 1?!? You have to be fecking joking!! The whole green paint nonsense. Come off it. It was pure drivel from start to finish. The GoT finale was just a bit Hollywood-y. Trying a bit too hard to give all the main characters a happy ending. Not even close to True Detective levels of outright nonsense.
Hang on now, the GoT finale had way more dumb things in it than the green paint part of True Detective.
 
Were in an age where people watch to be critics rather than to enjoy

Whether it has good or bad stuff, you can see people are more interested in discussing the negatives than the positives. It's just the way life is

I don't think any show has had this much scrutiny. It comes with being one of the biggest TV spectacles I guess. It does also lend to increasing ones popularity with videos tweets posts and articles + blogs.

Not saying everything should just be accepted cos fck euron. But there is defo of an element of some going ott
That's not true. Avengers got decent reviews and most people dismissed the negatives. It was broadly a positive vibe. You cant produce sub standard work and not expect people who have invested hours watching it not to whine. Especially some who are emotionally invested.

Plus, this one was particularly absurd. Like DC comic movie absurd. It will get called out on it in an OTT manner because of the standards set. Plot holes need to be earned not be part of the shows repertoire
 
Yeah, final scene with those two was good. You couldn’t ignore the ludicrous detective work though. Not in a show with “Detective” in the title!
Which is a real shame because they did build a beautiful plot over several years, if they brought it home better, it would have been among the best ever TV shows for me.
 
"People who are getting really angry about this season are weird."

They are!

Going off on a tangent here but I don't you think you can compare being irritated about a television series which was entirely focussed on detective work (the clue is in the title) that made such a laughable bollox of solving the mystery at the heart of the show with people getting wound up because characters they didn't want to die ended up getting killed, or the "wrong" character killed another character, or things happened too quickly, or whatever else the feck has wound people up about this season of GoT.
 
Hang on, people are seriously comparing the ending to a fantasy TV show, to true detective? now I've seen it all.
 
They are!

Going off on a tangent here but I don't you think you can compare being irritated about a television series which was entirely focussed on detective work (the clue is in the title) that made such a laughable bollox of solving the mystery at the heart of the show with people getting wound up because characters they didn't want to die ended up getting killed, or the "wrong" character killed another character, or things happened too quickly, or whatever else the feck has wound people up about this season of GoT.
Eh, Pogue, you made the comparison, not me.

You're saying people can't get irritated that a show they've spent eight years watching ended in a really shite way, but it's ok for you to get irritated at a limited series ending in a shite way? How strange.
 
I think it’s quite astute really. The multi faceted intrigue that you would expect to accompany a true “greatest ever tv show” to have was abandoned in favour of throwbacks and caricature characters. “Tits and dragons” effectively, when it used to be so much more
Name one pair of dragon tits that we saw in the show? Exactly, point to Pidgy.