Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended
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It's rushed I agree, such is nature of trying to wrap up such a big story before time. That has led to a reduction in the quality of the storytelling.
I have work to do now so I will bow out and let you lament in peace.
Plus she had won the war, she basically just went feck it I'll kill everyone because why not. It was just awful
You're posting a shit meme like format as an argument for the arc because any sort of logical argument falls apart under scrutiny.
Go through the list of everyone she kills and do you see a theme?
Her brother - Evil and abused her
The couple she locked underground - Conspired against her and her children
Crucified slave owners whilst liberating the city
"Burns people alive" - Like the witch who killed her husband and child? The Dothraki generals who were murderers themselves? The Lannister general who she gave a chance to kneel to her?
She's always been tough when it comes to punishing those who wronged her, but she's never unleashed her wrath on civilians, those are who she has always been about protecting.
Oh don't forget at the last example she gave a big speech about how she wasn't here to burn cities down or kill wives/children. Forget all the stuff she said about not being the queen of ashes, or not being like her father. Of course putting any of that into your shit meme format might actually provide a more balanced perspective on why the character arc is complete nonsense.
So far the only two arguments for Danys shit arc are "She's gone mad", which she hasn't. And "She's done bad things like this before", which she hasn't.
Spanners and Mechanics should get along
She had already turned, she never wanted to not feck that city up, that’s why the bells triggered her so much, because it took away her excuse.
Never realised they were two different posters. One of the poster you always confuse thread.
Yeah i was getting a bit confused there too.
None of the people in that list are innocent though from memory?
I mean her brother 100% wasn't innocent, using that as a starter for a debate is hilarious. He used her as a resource to get an army, beat her and looked at her as some kind of sexual trophy.
Xaro Xhoan Daxos is the guy that arranged to have her dragons stolen by the creepy warlocks and the servant of Daenerys who was meant to be one of her friends who betrayed her. How exactly are either innocent? What were they expecting?
Crucifying the masters, I think that's probably the worst thing she's done. Granted some of those people deserved death, but she didn't judge them case by case. She made the error of tarring all of them with the same brush.
Burns people time and time again. She burns her enemies but they were always soldiers. The only person she's burnt that wasn't a soldier was that slaver back in Season 5 and Varys in this episode. Two people, 1 of which in Varys seems to have betrayed her. A justified kill. So it's basically the slaver that seems like an over reactional kill. I know people are quick to jump on the "she burned the Tarlys!!" Rewatch the scene, it was suggested they bend the knee, they didn't. It was suggested they go to the Nights Watch and Lord dickface said he wouldn't. They are at war, he's a military leader whos disobeying her.
I think the problem people seem to have is her method of execution.
They've ruined his character over the last few seasons, at first you are rooting for him now you just want him to die.
Even the actress and actors of the show have said this season was bad.
I agree with him, you're all idiots.
Link?
100% Agreed.
I mean for one we are all in here arguing finer plot points over a tv show they are clearly making up as they go along, and for another thing, people think I'm joking about the horse.
Morons, every single one of us
Whatever happens in the final episode, if they waste a single second of it on Sam and Gilly I will lose my shit.
What about this? Did you just conveniently forget? It wasn't the first time she burnt innocent people to death on the show.
And just like she gave speeches saying she wasn't there to burn cities, she gave speeches saying the exact opposite too...
If you completely ignore all the signs pointing to it then yes, there were no signs pointing to it at all.
Not that I thought it was well paced, but saying it came out of nowhere is just not true.
we definitely need more time with sam and gilly. maybe a shot of them sleeping and a baby's cry rings out and they both look at each other and say "whose turn is it to feed lil john this time"
The people she killed was always with good intentions in mind though, that was her whole deal that she wasn't going to be like her father.
Good post. She's always been rational and has made some mistakes but she's admitted that too. That's not a sign of insanity. If she was she wouldn't know the difference between good and bad which I think she clearly does.
Fat Gilly.
Sam is a feeder.
Sam is a feeder.
The fact people have been saying for years Dany will turn mad surely defeats this theory that it came out of nowhere .
We have all seen this coming whether you want to admit it or not
We have all seen this coming whether you want to admit it or not
It started when she burned Sam's father and brother, but the issue is the sprinkling of seeds were not distributed evenly.
It's the severity of the turn I think that's the problem. Or at least I think it is, because we've clearly seen her have...issues lets say.
Yeah i agree, she always had that little crazy steak in her, it's just silly how she just flipped at KL at that moment too when there was no need to.
That's not peoples contention though, there has been nothing to suggest this level of evil/insanity.
It was not only about Dany. It was the stupid things ,like the Hound letting Cersei just walk past him.
Why was that stupid? Hound couldn't give a flying feck about Cersei.
See, now that was hardly stupid. He's facing down a literal monster and he clearly stated the queen was dead anyway, why would he waste the energy?
Plus we got to see her hilarious reaction walk away
I want it to be 45 minutes of Sam and Gilly. Seriously though I think we've said goodbye to them now.
If you can work out why insanity strikes people a a specific time then you will make a bucket load of money.
I work with a guy that was fine one moment then asked then he was holding onto the table the next and wouldn’t let go.
I know another person who brought a hammer to work and started smashing the place up.
These were people who I’d worked with for years that had shown no signs of mental health problems.
It can come on in an instant.
Wouldn't put it past the writers to have a girl power scene with Yara, Sansa and Arya all ganging up on Dany and hacking her to death in the next episode.
While Jon continues to wander around with a sword in hand and a lost puppy expression on his face...
While Jon continues to wander around with a sword in hand and a lost puppy expression on his face...
I too am super angry about a narrative turn I didn’t like in a fantasy fiction I got over invested in.
Wait, this is the Star Wars thread, right?
Wait, this is the Star Wars thread, right?
Nah, just shitty writing for 2 seasons
Wouldn't put it past the writers to have a girl power scene with Yara, Sansa and Arya all ganging up on Dany and hacking her to death in the next episode.
While Jon continues to wander around with a sword in hand and a lost puppy expression on his face...
Arya is clearly the writers favourite character. I'd wager she's had more screen time in the two big episodes this season and will most likely feature heavily in the final episode too.
This oneSee, now that was hardly stupid. He's facing down a literal monster and he clearly stated the queen was dead anyway, why would he waste the energy?
Plus we got to see her hilarious reaction walk away
I think we should just stop making fictional fantasy sagas altogether, cos it’s quite clear absolutely no one can handle them turning out the way they didnt want...Burn them all, I say..
Her madness seemed to begin to seriously manifest in the paranoia she developed after having defeated the white walkers and every one was celebrating Jon. He compounded it by taking away her legitimacy by revealing his identity to her and making it worse by sharing it with others - of whom Varys conspired to kill her. The cherry on the cake seemed to be when Jon confirmed he's not looking to be romantically involved with her, which potentially left her feeling massively vulnerable about others pressing his claim in the future, hence she goes 'fear it is then'. Paranoia and the trauma of losing those close to her seem to be what triggered the madness.
Yeah things happened all a bit too quick, but something was always looking to turn with her. Everything's just on fast forward because of the limited air time.
Yeah things happened all a bit too quick, but something was always looking to turn with her. Everything's just on fast forward because of the limited air time.