The majority have no problem with GoT. The minority have no problem with Rick and Morty.
If that's the evidence for your opinion, it's self-impugning. Only one or other can support your assertions.
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If that's the evidence for your opinion, it's self-impugning. Only one or other can support your assertions.
Here is a question but who do people think is supposedly the best sword fighter in the land? Like to be honest I'm actually pretty disappointed Jamie had his hand lobbed off. When he and Ned squared off it had big fight feel about it.
I was thinking back to where Dani says, we all enjoy what we are good at and Jon says not me. A lot of people I spoke to thought he meant killing. Maybe he did, at first I thought he meant leading as really in most 1 on 1 fights we've seen him in he gets his ass kicked. Then you see him mowing through dudes at the battle of the bastards and whites. But he is a good leader.
There is The Hound, Brian, Arya maybe? Jorah, Braun, Jon. Undoubtedly until his death it was clearly Oberyan (RIP Homie) that dude at the Tower of Joy tho. The double sword wielding dude. Ooooft, he'd take some stopping.
I was thinking back to where Dani says, we all enjoy what we are good at and Jon says not me. A lot of people I spoke to thought he meant killing. Maybe he did, at first I thought he meant leading as really in most 1 on 1 fights we've seen him in he gets his ass kicked. Then you see him mowing through dudes at the battle of the bastards and whites. But he is a good leader.
There is The Hound, Brian, Arya maybe? Jorah, Braun, Jon. Undoubtedly until his death it was clearly Oberyan (RIP Homie) that dude at the Tower of Joy tho. The double sword wielding dude. Ooooft, he'd take some stopping.
I am not trying to prove a point by stating what percentage of viewers like or don't like something. I was expressing my own views, and just made a comment that I am not the only one who thinks R&M has gotten really bad. And the same can be said about GoT. The point is that the groups that don't like them are both not negligibly small. Do you understand now?
It's a joke ffs
I have no problem understanding things.
Yeah, I would have though that saying he was "1,000,000% wrong" might have given it away. It was a reference to "triple exponential".
Jaime until his hand went, for sure.
Of everyone still alive, I'd go for The Hound at full capacity.
Possibly but who do you think now? If I was Jaimie I would have had a black smith whip me up a blade extension for my right hand so when he throws a straight right he is ending people.
Probably out of the Cleganes. Not sure on Arya.
Jon has the feats, guy has killed two Walkers for jokes.
Just want to point out that Jamie says to Cersei:
"Our child will never be born if the dead come south"
Foreshadowing.
"Our child will never be born if the dead come south"
Foreshadowing.
Good, so he actually agrees with me.
Kinda feel the Hound and the mountain for example are a lot of just physicality over others. Maybe Brianne is the same but she did beat The Hound. I'm going to plump for Jorah, pile all his sexual frustration in to his sword play(double meaning)
Hoping Syrio Forel the first sword of Bravos is still alive somehow. He was awesome.
Kinda miss the actual character interactions of previous seasons now it's very blunt and just horrid. Guess it had to be to speed up the story since they've set a time limit on it now.
Didn't that witch lady say she would only have so many children? She already met her quota right?
Jon probably has the biggest reputation now.
Killed two White Walkers, killed the leader of the Thenns, killed Qhorin Halfhand. Won the BotB and beat the shit out of Ramsay. Survived the attack on The Wall, survived Hardhome, survived the BotB, survived the expedition. Killing countless soldiers and dead doing so.
Killed two White Walkers, killed the leader of the Thenns, killed Qhorin Halfhand. Won the BotB and beat the shit out of Ramsay. Survived the attack on The Wall, survived Hardhome, survived the BotB, survived the expedition. Killing countless soldiers and dead doing so.
Yep. But I think we've now got a better idea of why she won't increase the number.
For what it's worth, I found this breakdown fascinating.
He got done by Karl fookin Tanner though, the legend of Gin Alley.
At the moment, though, the series' prophecy seems to be flawed since she's said that she and Robert had a child who died young from a fever. So she's one up already.
Jon has a reputation but a lot of it feels like it stemmed from plot armour. He was put in some pretty impossible situations where all logic dictates he should have died and somehow still escaped. He's likely one of the best but I'd fancy quite a few to be able to do him in. Oberyns a good shout, great character.
At this point it's probably the mountain as long as he isn't near fire. Aryas the best assassin and probably has the best combination, she was on par with Brienne as a swordsman and killed off the entire house of Frey thanks to her faceless man training. But she's not invincible the longer she has those skills the harder it'll be to kill her.
Tormund? Seems damn good better than the hound or the mountain though? I think it would be Ser Arthur Dayne I remember reading he was the best somewhere and the double sword thing was bloody immense.
Are we including the East in it? The likes of Daario and Jaqen H'ghar would be pretty high up. There's still the likes of Selmy Barristan and Jorah to consider too.There really isn't that much to choose between them all . I think Dayne is the only one you can point to as a clear winner and of the ones alive, The Hound.
Arthur Dayne was the best by a mile I believe.
Then I think it was peak Ser Barristan.
Then Jaime/Robert.
Then Hound/Mountain/Brienne/Oberyn
Show Jon is probably up there too.
Then I think it was peak Ser Barristan.
Then Jaime/Robert.
Then Hound/Mountain/Brienne/Oberyn
Show Jon is probably up there too.
Completely forgot about Jamie/Robert but that order looks spot on for Westeros. You can probably include Arya, Torumund and Jorah in the last line.
Boringly pedantic but: these people don't exist except as words on the page; they have no thoughts, feelings or swordmanship except what the writers choose to bestow on them from episode to episode. Most likely the question of the best swordsman in Westeros will never be addressed by the show.
That's actually a good point because I suppose it doesn't matter that by most of them except Ramsey and one white he was getting his ass handed to him. No one really saw it but they know he's killed them so very well could be considered the best.
Everyone skipping over Syrio who whooped some ass with a wooden sword.
Arthur Dayne is two sword wielding guy from the Tower of Joy scene right? I think I'd move Oberyn higher up at least level with Jaimie.
Was Robert any good? I can't recall any reference to him other than how big and strong he was.
If you're going back to Arthur Dayne and young Barristan and Robert then you'd have to include Rhaegar. And the amalgamation of Oswell Whent and Gerold Hightower we saw in the flashbacks, and Jon Connington and others. The Smiling Knight. Brandon Stark.
I can't remember who's been mentioned in the series in passing.
And that's just if by 'the land' we only mean Westeros.
I can't remember who's been mentioned in the series in passing.
And that's just if by 'the land' we only mean Westeros.
No way, Arya. Brienne was definitely taking it easy on her.
I laughed way too hard at this. That scene of him drinking wine from the skull of lord commander mormant.
Gin Alley Legend.
Missing Karl Tanner (he was pretty easily battering Jon Snow) and Bronn?
Robert killed Rhaegar in battle at riverrun? Not sure on the location but he was widely regarded as a fearsome warrior. Said he was a much better warrior than he was a king. I reckon he's pretty high up. Dayne of course takes the cake.
When did he fight Bronn?
I imagine Robert squashed Rhaeger and had no respect for his skills cause Rob was a beast back in the day.
What about Ned?
He was beating Jamie until the cnuts starting helping him.
He was beating Jamie until the cnuts starting helping him.
He didn't.
To be fair, Karl Tanner notices (and mentions) the fact that Jon Snow learned how to "fight in a castle... with honour". He's become significantly more battle-hardened since then.
Yeah, Robert was a beast of a fighter when he was young. He killed Rhaegar!
Ned was never supposed to be a particularly strong fighter afaik. I think the show OP'd him a bit.
I don't think Jon was supposed to be as good a fighter back then, though, was he? That was like season 3/4 right?
Don't think Rhaegar was supposed to be near Jaime or Robert's (who killed him!) level.
Sure but I'd still put Jon nowhere near the top of any list. Has he really had a proper 1 v 1 fight against anyone of note? I can only really think of the Thenn dude. Halfhand let him win, Tanner was beating him until he got backstabbed and the white walker was a huge valerian steel assist.
He's a great survivor more than a great fighter. Put him up against Syrio or Jamie (2 hands) and he get's whooped.
Very snobbish! The best sportsmen in the world don't usually come from the ranks of the landed gentry. There's no reason for the best swordsman in Westeros to be an aristocrat.
decent shout. He lost credibility cause of the TOJ thing but that doesn't mean he wasn't good. Just Dayne was better than everyone.