Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

Raees said:
Wow that was really important stuff.. why on earth did they cut that scene. Paints Sansa in a totally different light and as an absolute airhead incapable of independent thought. Also reinforces the growing belief that Jon and Dany are going to drift apart next season.
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Ya for sure. All this slow learner but I learn thing is just crap..
 
kotha said:
Ya for sure. All this slow learner but I learn thing is just crap..
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The whole premise of the Starks being slow learners stems directly from the books, all the way back as far as Game of Thrones itself. They are renowned for it among the Westerosi political class.
 
van der star said:
The burning question about Viserion's flame has been cleared up by the episode's director Jeremy Podeswa, who told Huffington Post: "The way I looked at it was, when the Sept burned down, that was green fire, and so then the dragon is going to have some kind of blueish fire.


"It's certainly still fire - it has the ability to burn the Wall and melt snow. But it's going to have a different kind of magical quality to it, because it's coming from an undead dragon."

This is the TV version of what's happening, the book version, according to GRRM would be along the lines of -
But that's a slight deviation from the way that Viserion was portrayed in the books by George R. R. Martin. In A World Of Ice And Fire, Martin says: "Of all the queer and fabulous denizens of the Shivering Sea, however, the greatest are the ice dragons.

"These colossal beasts, many times larger than the dragons of Valyria, are said to be made of living ice, with eyes of pale blue crystal and vast translucent wings through which the moon and stars can be glimpsed as they wheel across the sky."


"Whereas common dragons breathe flame, ice dragons supposedly breathe cold, a chill so terrible that it can freeze a man solid in half a heartbeat."
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Buchan said:
The whole premise of the Starks being slow learners stems directly from the books, all the way back as far as Game of Thrones itself. They are renowned for it among the Westerosi political class.
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Come on guys PLEASE no book stuff. I know its in spoilers but just dont.
 
van der star said:
The burning question about Viserion's flame has been cleared up by the episode's director Jeremy Podeswa, who told Huffington Post: "The way I looked at it was, when the Sept burned down, that was green fire, and so then the dragon is going to have some kind of blueish fire.


"It's certainly still fire - it has the ability to burn the Wall and melt snow. But it's going to have a different kind of magical quality to it, because it's coming from an undead dragon."

This is the TV version of what's happening, the book version, according to GRRM would be along the lines of -
But that's a slight deviation from the way that Viserion was portrayed in the books by George R. R. Martin. In A World Of Ice And Fire, Martin says: "Of all the queer and fabulous denizens of the Shivering Sea, however, the greatest are the ice dragons.

"These colossal beasts, many times larger than the dragons of Valyria, are said to be made of living ice, with eyes of pale blue crystal and vast translucent wings through which the moon and stars can be glimpsed as they wheel across the sky."


"Whereas common dragons breathe flame, ice dragons supposedly breathe cold, a chill so terrible that it can freeze a man solid in half a heartbeat."
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His condition doesn't have anything to do with the books (so far).
 
I am sure this has been discussed lot of time, but what is the plan of White Walkers? What would they do even if they manage to get all of north and south. They are mostly dead anyways.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Plausible but just to pick you up on one thing...a battle against the army of the dead with loads dying on both sides isn't a stalemate. It's a win for the army of the dead.
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Not if they beat them back before the nights king can Paul Daniels them and burn them all
 
RedDevil@84 said:
I am sure this has been discussed lot of time, but what is the plan of White Walkers? What would they do even if they manage to get all of north and south. They are mostly dead anyways.
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They're just making sure all the Sand Snakes are dead so that they don't come back.
 
Has it ever been explained how craster reached a deal with the White Walkers in the place?
 
Raees said:
Has it ever been explained how craster reached a deal with the White Walkers in the place?
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Careful - this looks like a book question. :nervous:

I imagine he would have made the offering to them out of fear so they left him alone, rather than any formal contract.
 
Apparently Bran was told to use Doctor Manhattan (from Watchmen) as a reference point for how he acts. Which would help to explain his passive robot behaviour (besides of course being generally terrible at acting).

Also would be cool if he was a secret Lannister because then I could call him Brannister.
 
Welsh Wonder said:
Apparently Bran was told to use Doctor Manhattan (from Watchmen) as a reference point for how he acts. Which would help to explain his passive robot behaviour (besides of course being generally terrible at acting).

Also would be cool if he was a secret Lannister because then I could call him Brannister.
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Doctor Branhattan
 
Raees said:
Has it ever been explained how craster reached a deal with the White Walkers in the place?
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The White Walkers were probably stealing male Wildling babies for thousands of years. Craster must have figured it out and sacrificed all the kids he didn't want to have incest with.
 
Theres been 30 pages worth of posts on here since the season finale. Nuts.
 
Feck, Jaime is by far the best character on this show. Watched a compilation of his scenes and forgot how well he has acted sometimes. Also don't remember the scene with myrcella dying being as gut wrenching, must have been because we had put up with so much dorne shite.

Hope he ends up winning the iron throne for himself.
 
Even other TV shows are having a go at the GoT writing now. A memorial from post credits of last Sunday's Rick and Morty -

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van der star said:
Even other TV shows are having a go at the GoT writing now. A memorial from post credits of last Sunday's Rick and Morty -

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I don't think there is any doubt that writing quality has gone down. But it was in someways inevitable. The series is a victim of its own quality and the number of people who analyze or dissect the show has gone up in numbers compared to what it was earlier. Over the years, people have become far more knowledgeable about the show. Once the popular notion about the drop in quality was established, it was an impossible task to turn it around. And now the series is at a point, where closure is important which for me directly translates to more outcomes that is going come across as bland and ordinary.
 
Can't find that post where people were talking about the Unsullied needing a tactical commander... anyone reckon they showed Jaime outsmarting Tyrion a number of times this season for exactly that reason, now that he's heading north on his own?
 
unchanged_lineup said:
Can't find that post where people were talking about the Unsullied needing a tactical commander... anyone reckon they showed Jaime outsmarting Tyrion a number of times this season for exactly that reason, now that he's heading north on his own?
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Im trying to think of a scenario where hes allowed in and trusted easily having:
-killed Danys father
-tried to kill Dany in battle.
 
Sylar said:
Im trying to think of a scenario where hes allowed in and trusted easily having:
-killed Danys father
-tried to kill Dany in battle.
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Speaking of which, I would've liked a glance or a brief exchange between the two at the Dragonpit for that reason.
 
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