Both the 'game' and final battle matter. Naturally the struggle against the WW's is the final, big arc, but until now the point of the story has also been that politics and inner turmoil don't suddenly stop when major concerns arise.
Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended
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You could do it with anything but it only makes sense if you do it with stuff that deserves it. The whole dragon's den stuff was poorly done, and Cersi's flip flops/fake posturing was pretty obvious. Red wedding was a great scene that made a huge impact.
You've been waiting to hear something you already know? I mean, it's just a couple of blokes speaking about what you pretty much know (except that they were actually in love). They just made it appear really dramatic when I didn't think it had the impact the showmakers thought it would. Especially when everything else almost seemed to fall in line with what people expected.
The John thing is not a small thing to criticize. That, and the whole scene it was part of was really cartoonish by GoT standards.
Of course.
My point was simply that I think it would have been better if they focused more on Cersei vs the rest this season and less on the White Walkers. It would still have left some 'game' stuff for next season, most notably around Dany fecking her nephew and which of them gets the throne.
I guess my biggest concern is that we've six episodes, and just look how rushed and messy and contrived the show was at times this season when they had seven!
Stannis is a highly important character and his story is certainly tragic, but he's not really supposed to be a main character. In the books I believe Stannis' story is followed from Davos' point of view.
He was a very important character due to his key role in the story, but yeah, he always felt like a major figure on the level of, say, Tywin or Joffrey...someone whose actions greatly impact the main characters, more than a main character himself.
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Not sure youre really supposed to mention the books.
Ban Ban Ban!
@RedSky
There's a reason for why almost all the big and important Stannis scenes have featured Davos, with the latter mostly being the voice of reason. Over the course of 4 full seasons, Stannis only really had 1 or 2 important episodes without Davos being around.
If that warrants a ban, then we might as well ban anyone who just writes the word "book".
There's a reason for why almost all the big and important Stannis scenes have featured Davos, with the latter mostly being the voice of reason. Over the course of 4 full seasons, Stannis only really had 1 or 2 important episodes without Davos being around.
If that warrants a ban, then we might as well ban anyone who just writes the word "book".
White text ninja.
@Dir Wangem I never mentioned a ban, that was @RDCR07. Calling for bans on here is the online equivalent of waving an imaginary card at a referee. Its not big and its not clever.
Having said that, nor is talking about the books when people have repeatedly said no book talk.
Having said that, nor is talking about the books when people have repeatedly said no book talk.
I was trying to mimick the "Shame Shame Shame" chant. Wasnt actually calling for a ban.
Ah right, I didnt pick up on that. Quite funny now I get it though.
Double ban!
@Adebesi
Fair enough.
My goal was to add a counter-argument for Stannis being considered a main character since Davos is the main character in both the TV series and the books.
I agree with the rules. The books shouldn't be discussed in here.
Fair enough.
My goal was to add a counter-argument for Stannis being considered a main character since Davos is the main character in both the TV series and the books.
I agree with the rules. The books shouldn't be discussed in here.
Ive got this picture in my head of a comedy sketch where people keep saying a particular word theyre not supposed to say, and the more they say it the more worked up everyone gets and the more people keep saying it. But I cant think what it is. Monty Python maybe?
Maybe there should be some some of mid.. level..thread, one where people who haven't read the .. you know .. want to know the differences between them and the show? That's crazy, though, right?
Missandei reminds me of that girl/boy from The Crying Game. Don't know why people find her attractive.
A Song of Game of Thrones? A Game of Fire and Ice? Westeros purgatory?
Fourk Andles
Er! because Nathalie Emmanuel is rather beautiful.Just because you don't,it doesn't mean she isn't
For all Dany lovers -
Personal opinion I guess? Emilia Clarke is more attractive for me.
Still dont get this major problem with the books being mentioned, especially now that they are so far behind the TV series, and are 100% going to end in a different way due to changes that have happened in the show. Its like banning talk of the game of thrones jigsaw puzzles or something like that, if anything then talking about the books is probably one of the safer sources to talk about because you know that it definitely wont happen in the way they suggest any more. Book stuff is a certain non-spoiler.
AAugh! AAAAAH! Oww!! (writhes in pain)
Given the last few pages, its clear that some people are basing the show response on what they waned to happen rather than what actually happened.
Whilst there were some annoyances, its a bit weird to judge a show on something that you believe wasnt delievered.
TBF, I see s7 and s8 as one season split into two (but over a bigger timespan given the reduced number of eps). I think it was a good move in away. Id rather s7 be rushed to a point compared to s8 which imo is more important as its the end game.
Whilst there were some annoyances, its a bit weird to judge a show on something that you believe wasnt delievered.
TBF, I see s7 and s8 as one season split into two (but over a bigger timespan given the reduced number of eps). I think it was a good move in away. Id rather s7 be rushed to a point compared to s8 which imo is more important as its the end game.
This is it. @Joemo PMd me earlier suggesting the Knights who say Nee, I thought that was it for a second but it wasnt, it was definitely this from the Life of Brian. Marvelous.Aye it's...Jehovah...
It all confirms that Cersei is an idiot.
If I had seen that Dany was missing a dragon, which Cersei said herself that shedid, I would have assumed Dany lost it North of the Wall. It would make sense. Dany said she had to go North of the Wall before she realized the threat the Night King poses, and losing a dragon is exactly the sort of thing that would do that. It wouldn't be a huge leap to assume that whatever is North of the Wall has enough firepower to bring down a dragon, and given that Cersei knows the Scorpion can't do that it puts that fact into perspective.
Given that Jon Snow also said that the undead army raises the dead to add them to their ranks it would also be logical for a clever person that the Night King now has a dragon on his side.
Someone who is actually clever, like Petyr "Assume The Worst" Baelish, would have absolutely considered all of the above to be possible given the information that was presented at the Dragonpit and been rightfully terrified. Either Cersei is actually a bumbling moron or she just gets off on choosing the cuntiest move every time. It's probably a fair bit of both.
What is totally uncertain for those that haven't seen NK's army is the sheer number of wights and the fact that they also have giants as well as bears and other beasts on their side. People all over Westeros know about the White Walkers, even if most think they're just a myth. Cersei should immediately at least consider their existence a possibility after seeing the wight.
I'm sure the Starkaryens will figure out some grand plan to feck the NK up, but at the moment, even if Cersei had provided the entire Lannister army and the Golden Company to help out, the living look pretty fecked.
Also, it would be really awesome if the dead just marched straight past Winterfell and the armies waiting for them up there and went straight towards King's Landing and gave Cersei that sweet, sweet karmic payback. For all we know, the Night King's goal could be some magical artifact hidden at Dragonstone, King's Landing or Oldtown or something and not just the genocide of the entire human race. Maybe he doesn't bother with fighting along the way.
So what do we make of that.. the wights formation was that of a direwolf?
Its definitely the latter. She put the pieces together alright, she accepted that the stories they had heard as kids had turned out to be true. She just figured it was better to let two enemies tear each other to shreds and then mop up at the end, rather than getting sucked in and taking her share of the losses from the start.
She is taking a yugggeeee gamble. She wants the North to beat the undead and in the process lose 3/4th of their army. Then she waits for them with her new Essos army and is hoping to beat them. If the North lose she is fooked.
So what do we make of that.. the wights formation was that of a direwolf?
I guess that basically points to one of the theories.
Looks more like a ass print to me. You can even see where the balls and bellend rested. I wonder what are the implications of that.
Just caught up with the entire season over the last 2 days. The entire thing was fecking awesome, my only issue though - why was the Night King riding that dragon like a twat? Doesn't he control all of his dead with mind control and that crap, so why did he have to mount that ice dragon? Looked stupid
Seems a bit forced anyway like that stupid longclaw observation.