Tyrion real NJ accent just fecking throws me off everytime I hear it.
Also Jon with the "Urgghh Oh God Im sorry, lets go again". Cheeky little bastard.
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Tyrion real NJ accent just fecking throws me off everytime I hear it.
Also Jon with the "Urgghh Oh God Im sorry, lets go again". Cheeky little bastard.
Imagine naming all your boys neville neville
Unimaginable.
I find it unlikely that an army of mercenaries would agree to it. If the prospect of facing the Dothrakis + The Unsullied + Armies of the North wasn't daunting enough, the idea of being burnt alive by dragons no amount of money can make enticing.
Pretty sure its a professional army. They would take Westeros easily.
Unsullied + Dothrakis is probably just 10.000 men.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/metro....ever-see-them-on-screen-together-6888629/amp/
On a separate note read that Jamie's 'kingslayer' nickname could come in handy with regards to the Great War...
On a separate note read that Jamie's 'kingslayer' nickname could come in handy with regards to the Great War...
I'd watch out if that's even close you will get thread banned.
If that's even close I think there'll be bigger problems than me being thread banned.
If the Night King wins it's 100,000+ dead men with a few giants for good measure and at least one undead dragon, plus the reanimated army of The North and Dany's Dothraki and Unsullied.
The Golden Company is fecked if that happens. Cersei is taking a huge risk not getting involved in the Great War.
I think she's hoping for Team Targaryan to win at a huge cost, then get the Golden Company to steamroll them. Not sure what her plan is if they lose. Perhaps she doesn't fully realise/believe the threat they pose.
Yeah I think you're bolded bit is spot on. She'd probably rather die, then up give up the throne to anyone else.
So even if the undead win and end up destroying Westeros, Cersei would still be happier with her death in that scenario, that help them destroy the NK and end up losing the war/having to give up the throne.
She probably thinks they are all like the wights. And has no clue about the WW, or the giants. Or even that big fecking dragon now (though only those at the wall who survived have an idea)
Do people think Bran's "You will not walk but you will fly" has already happened via the crows? Or can he maybe still warg into a dragon in the future?
I've always thought it was a reference to the dragons. Although, it could just be they meant the crows & it makes sense if that's what they meant now he's the 3ER & flying all over the place.
Unless I've missed it, they've never told if there's a limit to his powers. He might need to be close to animals/people to warg & then be able to control them from a distance?! I guess we'll find out when the dragons come to winterfell
Unless I've missed it, they've never told if there's a limit to his powers. He might need to be close to animals/people to warg & then be able to control them from a distance?! I guess we'll find out when the dragons come to winterfell
Tbf we don't know that. He has just rode off into the sunset...or snow. Maybe he won't be featured until the latter part of Season 8 to save cercei / tyrion. My prediction is that he dies next season.
So what, he might just go into the woods, take a shit load of mushrooms and wait for the undead to arrive? It would be a surprise if he didnt show up for the battle he said he was off to fight, no?
Every source on the internet seems to be suggesting it.
http://www.businessinsider.com/game-of-thrones-season-8-release-date-2017-8?IR=T
For me it was always a reference to him flying through time, but I could see him warging into Viseryion - perhaps if he learns how to warg into the dead, or perhaps it is a reference to him being the Night King, or part of the Night King and as the NK is flying on Viseryion ergo Bran is too.
Jaime goes to fight the undead or he doesn't makes no difference. He's only one man ... he needed Cercei's army.
But saying that, it is very likely he will join Tyrion etc. Which doesn't make much sense as I said, they don't need a 1 armed fighter, they need an army!
@Liver_bird questioned this last time I said it but I still think he will provide tactical / strategic insight and experience to make his presence worthwhile. I cant point to anything specific and I might be wrong but I feel like there have been references to his expertise in this area - not simply as a foot soldier. So yeah, obviously him alone is nowhere near as good as him with an army, but I still reckon it will be worth the trip.
Plus I wonder whether squaring up against the undead army is even the way to go. They have larger numbers and the mismatch will only grow as the fighting goes on and more of the living get killed. If killing the NK ends the whole thing surely a stealth mission to assassinate him is the more sensible approach? That's the kind of thing Jaime might be able to help plan.
Maybe he could swap his hand for some kind of claw or blade made of dragonglass, something like Han in Enter the Dragon has. I always thought that was the way he should have gone, rather than learning to fight left handed with a sword.
It's what he did at the siege of Riverrun.
We haven't seen anyone else like that among the northern Lords or Daenerys's army or the Wildlings. Jorah was brought up in a similar environment to Jaime (albeit not quite as high up the social scale) but he's been wandering the world for decades. The Unsullied are great soldiers but they seem to have been trained to be directed by others.
Definitely. It feels like what that army is missing more than anything is a capable commander.
I'd forgotten about Jorah to be honest because he was away for ages and then came back but then immediately went off again. But as you said, even when he's around his commanding skills must be a bit rusty.
That'd be epic if he does that in the battle against the WW
Just saw on Facebook something about Bethesda working on a Game of Thrones game. Doubt that's true.
I had a friend called Billy Williams.
Did they actually name the children that were murdered in the show?
Lena Headey was feckin' excellent (again) in this episode, she's been brilliant all season I think.
Her and the bloke who plays Theon are the two best performers on the show for my money.
Her and the bloke who plays Theon are the two best performers on the show for my money.
This season was very good if you compare it to the vast majority of TV series. But as far as GoT quality goes, this was a pretty weak season overall. Maybe even the weakest so far.
I've boiled it down to these 3 reasons:
I've boiled it down to these 3 reasons:
1. The pacing
I know that it's been discussed to death already, but it really is the worst part about this season. There's a long list of issues that easily could have been fixed if the season had only been 3 episodes longer. Here's a short list of things that could have been changed for the better with an additional 3 hours or so:
- Yara's Iron Fleet wouldn't need to be completely crushed in a matter of minutes right the feck out of nowhere.
- Olenna Tyrell could have been given more screen-time. Not only because she is a great character, but also give her death more impact.
- Ravens and armies wouldn't need to move at an impossibly high pace(some nerds did the math, and it's beyond ridiculous).
- Bronn's rescue of Jamie Lannister could have been done smarter(boy, that was stupid).
- Thoros of Myr, a legend in the GoT universe, could have been fleshed out so much more(no pun intended) before being killed off.
- The same is true of Gendry(though he's not a legend and he's still alive).
- Littlefinger vs the Starks could have been done so much better(I'll get back to this further down).
- Episode 6, which was supposed to be the most epic episode of the season, could have been done smarter(waiting for the ice to freeze, really?!). Not to mention Daenarys last second rescue..
- The Tyrion character wouldn't suffer this much. The lack of time and depth makes him look uncharacteristically stupid and out of control.
2. Lack of grit
There is a common GoT myth that main characters often get killed off. This is of course nonsense. Among the 15 most important characters that we follow closely and are supposed to sympathize with, only 3 have actually died(Ned, Cat and Robb) so far. The last time this happened was in season 3. There is of course nothing wrong with that, but if there ever was a season to have at least one main character die, if would have been this season. With all the madness going on, it's almost a miracle that characters like The Hound, Davos, Jorah, Sam and Theon all are seemingly safe. Even side-characters like Tormund and Bronn have plot armor now! I love both characters, but come on... A part of GoT's greatness lies in its grit. Unfortunately, a lot of it seems to be gone. Wisecrack made a good video about this:
3. Littlefinger vs the Starks
I already mentioned it above, but this was done so poorly that it deserves its own point. I'm fine with Littlefinger losing, but not like this. Was he given even a single small "win" while residing in Winterfell? Littlefinger is one of the greatest villians in the GoT universe, right up there with Tywin. He's possibly the best schemer of them all, yet his stay in Winterfell is only failure followed by failure. The writers should have let him at least have a couple of punches before being knocked out. Overall, they completely assassinated this great character.
The worst part is that while the pacing is partly to blame, bad writing is the main culprit here. Rip Littlefinger. Chaos is indeed a ladder.
I know that it's been discussed to death already, but it really is the worst part about this season. There's a long list of issues that easily could have been fixed if the season had only been 3 episodes longer. Here's a short list of things that could have been changed for the better with an additional 3 hours or so:
- Yara's Iron Fleet wouldn't need to be completely crushed in a matter of minutes right the feck out of nowhere.
- Olenna Tyrell could have been given more screen-time. Not only because she is a great character, but also give her death more impact.
- Ravens and armies wouldn't need to move at an impossibly high pace(some nerds did the math, and it's beyond ridiculous).
- Bronn's rescue of Jamie Lannister could have been done smarter(boy, that was stupid).
- Thoros of Myr, a legend in the GoT universe, could have been fleshed out so much more(no pun intended) before being killed off.
- The same is true of Gendry(though he's not a legend and he's still alive).
- Littlefinger vs the Starks could have been done so much better(I'll get back to this further down).
- Episode 6, which was supposed to be the most epic episode of the season, could have been done smarter(waiting for the ice to freeze, really?!). Not to mention Daenarys last second rescue..
- The Tyrion character wouldn't suffer this much. The lack of time and depth makes him look uncharacteristically stupid and out of control.
2. Lack of grit
There is a common GoT myth that main characters often get killed off. This is of course nonsense. Among the 15 most important characters that we follow closely and are supposed to sympathize with, only 3 have actually died(Ned, Cat and Robb) so far. The last time this happened was in season 3. There is of course nothing wrong with that, but if there ever was a season to have at least one main character die, if would have been this season. With all the madness going on, it's almost a miracle that characters like The Hound, Davos, Jorah, Sam and Theon all are seemingly safe. Even side-characters like Tormund and Bronn have plot armor now! I love both characters, but come on... A part of GoT's greatness lies in its grit. Unfortunately, a lot of it seems to be gone. Wisecrack made a good video about this:
3. Littlefinger vs the Starks
I already mentioned it above, but this was done so poorly that it deserves its own point. I'm fine with Littlefinger losing, but not like this. Was he given even a single small "win" while residing in Winterfell? Littlefinger is one of the greatest villians in the GoT universe, right up there with Tywin. He's possibly the best schemer of them all, yet his stay in Winterfell is only failure followed by failure. The writers should have let him at least have a couple of punches before being knocked out. Overall, they completely assassinated this great character.
The worst part is that while the pacing is partly to blame, bad writing is the main culprit here. Rip Littlefinger. Chaos is indeed a ladder.
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The show has apparently had a few cameos from musicians. At Joffrey's feast, the trio from Sigur Ros can be seen playing the Red Wedding anthem "The Rains of Castemere." No one at the wedding is impressed, but they just didn't understand how good it sounds next to Joffrey's poisoned, bloated corpse.
There's also Will Champion, a drummer in Coldplay most often seen in photos standing behind the only guy you know from Coldplay. He played a percussionist in the Red Wedding.
There was also Snow Patrol member Gary Lightbody on a snow white horse in another small musical moment.
There's also Will Champion, a drummer in Coldplay most often seen in photos standing behind the only guy you know from Coldplay. He played a percussionist in the Red Wedding.
There was also Snow Patrol member Gary Lightbody on a snow white horse in another small musical moment.
I think the last two series before this one were weaker than this one.
Jamies track record isn't the best though.
- Defeated and captured by Rob Stark
- Captured trying to rescue his daughter
- Won the siege of Riverrun
- Won the siege of Highgarden
- Defeated by Daenerys
Also, does anyone remember Jon mentioning how many men the North have? He's constantly said how "we don't have enough men", but have we ever had a figure? Daenerys probably has an army of 15k by now. Might be more or less depending on war casualties. If you assume the Northern Army consists of say 20k. That's still only a third of the Undead army. That's going to be tough to beat.
Someone recently said there were more people in King's Landing than in the whole of the north, didnt he? Or did I mishear that?
Also, the whole R+L=J(or is it A now?) theory was actually shown in show in an earlier episode when Jon was at Castle Black.
That's clearly an R and an L, right next to Jon (the J in the equation).
Did Benjen etch that in there for someone to discover it? Or was it Aemon? Always had a feeling that Aemon knew who Jon truly was.
That's clearly an R and an L, right next to Jon (the J in the equation).
Did Benjen etch that in there for someone to discover it? Or was it Aemon? Always had a feeling that Aemon knew who Jon truly was.
4 characters, Margaery Tyrell (could even mention the dragon as well). Stannis should be considered.. I'm not sure we can really complain about lack of grit though given last seasons finale killed off 10+ characters. That was always bound to have a knock on effect to this season. Based on this season i'd say Bronn, Jamie and all those taking part in the expedition were lucky to be alive. A few of those really should have been killed, the fact they haven't suggests we're in for a big loss up North next Season.
yes you heard correctly.
Yeah, 1 million lives in Kings Landing and Jon said thats more than the entire North.
Oh, this probably has already been discussed, but was the show trying to show that Tyrion is jealous of Jon at the end?
It's been discussed at length and we don't really know is the answer.