He didn't know about the marriage annulment. Which i found amusing considering he's supposed to be this all knowing being.
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He didn't know about the marriage annulment. Which i found amusing considering he's supposed to be this all knowing being.
Pretty sure that's exactly what it was.
More to the point, it's the writers flagging to the viewers that the relationship is going to causes issues.
Yep.
"Oooh, I love _______'s arc. Great character development."
Erm, no. Characters acting completely out of character is just plain shit. It's lazy, contrived writing to give the masses the ending they what. Jaime transforming into a goodie-two-shoes now all of a sudden is just moronic. He was a millisecond away from murdering Daenerys two episodes ago and now he's going to fight for her and Snow. Laughable.
Do you not have an off switch?
They could have made it clearer but it seems he can see everything but not that he does. He usually has to purposely look to see.
In the same way that one of us would have the ability to see all parts of a field we're standing in but don't see every part of it at once.
The Hound is downright annoying now as well. Are his obscenities and constant foul mood supposed to be humourous? I hope The Mountain caves his face in.
All of a sudden? If you had been paying attention it has been set up since he lost his hand in season 3.(if not before)
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Book talk. Burn him with wildfire.
To be honest, I think the weaknesses are apparent even as we watch the show. Majority of the Caf have the understanding that this season has been heavily rushed and that the writing has been rubbish. But most have come to accept it for what it is, which is a commercial blockbuster. Gone are days of subtlety and finesse. Those qualities ran out when the creators ran out of source material. It's been like this from Season 6.
I think he still needs a reference point of where to look. I can understand him stalking nudes most of the time rather than important things. He's a kid afterall.
You can like a show and not like some things about it.
Do football fans not complain about their team?
Probably of his sis.
It's the 'liking the show' bit Buchan fails on unfortunately. He only pops up to tells us how shit he thinks it all is, but apparently the thought to stop watching hasn't occurred to him.
Sure. i've always looked at it like he can see fragments of things that come together slowly. That's my interpretation of it anyway.
I don't think it'll cause too many issues. There's no need from a plot point to leave the wider reveal until the last few episodes of season 8. Bran and Sam will tell jon the second they see him. And absolutely no way jon knowingly fecks his aunt.
Dany will probably get pregnant though, they foreshadowed that a lot.
Don't the lords of westeros misfire? Pregnancy so easy to come by.
It's fine. I don't post positive things about GoT because of the overwhelming feeling of disappointment. But that doesn't mean I haven't absolutely loved the show at times over the years and still do like it. I just find it hard to praise now after seasons gone by being clearly better (IMO). Not apologetic about that either. People have to just deal with it. The thought of not watching it doesn't cross my mind either as I still like the show and am invested.
Tbf most film will have to drop subtlety nesr the end. It has to be concluded at one point.
The show has had problems this season - epsiode 6 was definitely bungled - but at it's best it's still as good as it was. I think you're always likely to get complaints when a series goes on a long time, with familiarity breeding a degree of criticism which earlier episodes aren't subjected to.
Why is Tyrion so worried about Targ sex? Jelly? Worried about new kid to rule the world instead of a Lanny?
so what's to stop Bran warging into Cersei and basically handing himself over to Dani?
True, but we won't really know until the actual source material is out. If/when it does come out, you can expect a lot of comparisons between the two and we'll all get a clearer picture as to whether the creator's could have done something different.
This is absolutely spot on.
Considering how averse Jon Snow was to siring bastards, do we expect wedding bells to be ringing soon, if he does knock Dany up?
This fecks up grr martin as well. He'd have to follow through the naratives, it's not likely his ending will differ alot from the movie.
And tbf to the script writer, there's no screentime for subtlety. And yes standard suffers, but i prefer that rather than dragging this to 3-4 more season, it'll get boring if littlefinger has his way and the whole whodunnit merry go round starts again.
Cersie isn't pregnant anyway. She's just playing Jamie and now Tyrian. Seems to be working too.
Cersei isn't really an animal. Well she is in someways but not literally.
I dont think marriage means anything to both of them.
A bastard iirc is if you don't know the parents. If they both have kids it'll be legitimate son of Jon and daenarys.
Jon was a bastard because ned didn't let him know who his mother are.
She would have been absolutely stupid not to do so.
I agree with this all. The Stark children coming together (with Sansa leading it) to end LF was the best outcome. He got done, because of something he couldnt predict, a kid who could see into the past, another kid who is an assassin, and his new love / apprentice being too smart for him.
She said from the beginning, if LF gives you something, he pretty much is after something.
Like a bunsen burner
It makes sense lol :PBut its probably cos they saw it looked awesome in Godzilla tbh. And ice is blue.
Cos then it would start a war right there, and there would be big casualities on both sides and it would do nothing for nobody there.
I can see some of the Lannister army going with him if thats the case too. Those he commanded and those who have followed him so far. He could easily take soldiers with him before they find out that wasnt Cerseis intention (given it was openly said she was going to help Dany/Jon)
I do think Jamie directly or indirectly ends up killing Cersei now. And it might be cos of Euron's presence.
What do people think the final battle of the show will be?
I always thought it would be vs. WW, but I'm not so sure anymore, it looks unlikely at the moment.
I always thought it would be vs. WW, but I'm not so sure anymore, it looks unlikely at the moment.
Have a conceptual question regarding White Walkers
The corpses that are brought to life by White walkers are Wights. They can be killed simply by fire. So, the question is since the Viserion is basically a wight, can't it be simply killed if one of the other 2 dragons simply spits fire on it or say, anyone fires an arrow with fireball at tip on it?
The corpses that are brought to life by White walkers are Wights. They can be killed simply by fire. So, the question is since the Viserion is basically a wight, can't it be simply killed if one of the other 2 dragons simply spits fire on it or say, anyone fires an arrow with fireball at tip on it?
It depends what the criticism is to be fair. There are perfectly valid criticisms to be made, and I'm not for a second suggesting I am the arbiter of what they are, but an awful lot of this thread is preoccupied with moaning about things that have been explained because the poster wasn't paying attention. Another great portion of it is people subjecting GoT to a greater deal of scrutiny than they do virtually every other TV series because of the popularity of the show, and their desire to be contrarian.
I think the biggest problem is the source material though. When GoT was universally agreed to be 'good' it was a time when it was world-building, unwieldy, and vast. Boiling that down to a tight narrative that lives up to the world that was created was always a challenge, and I understand it's a similar problem that GRRM is struggling with in the books too.
That is definitely not true. A bastard is any child born out of wedlock. There are countless bastards roaming around this universe, who know who their parents are. I remember Jon Snow making a big deal in an earlier season about not sleeping with some woman because he was afraid of siring a bastard and how he thought a bastard's life was a life nobody should have.
He tried to kill Daenerys two episodes ago, mate. He destroyed House Tyrell in the episode before that. Definitely the actions of a morally-minted man, those.
But Tyrion doesn't know that from a viewer's perspective. His creepy shadowing during boatsex probably has more meaning than we know of as of now.
What's this based on?
The battle against the Others will most certainly be sorted much before the series finale. I'd guess around the 3rd or 4th episode. Seems to be the direction the show is taking, as evident from the last episode.
Cersei was only ever destined to have three children. Either this pregnancy is false, or she loses the baby.
I don't have much to add on the first part of the post since I am not aware of how Martin will handle this, but I do think he will go down a different path, not just with the conclusion (As in the end point) but how he gets there.
Regarding the second, I think the subtlety could have been achieved if the show was maybe a couple of episodes longer. Retain the 8 seasons, but add a couple more episodes and you have subtlety I was referring to without the drop in quality. But then again, the writing since Season 6 has been quite average, so there is no real guarantee of that either.