Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended
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In biological terms, a septum is a wall, dividing a cavity or structure into smaller ones.
What you're on about is a septon, the male clergy of the Faith of the Seven.
I don't think Cersei's become a master evil genius. At each step her plotting has left her more and more isolated. She's very clever but not very wise, as she always was.
And apart from his mistake at Casterly Rock Tyron still seems to have a better (broader) understanding of the situation than almost anyone. He just might not have the power to put that understanding to good use.
Jaime has changed. But there were hints from early on that there was more to him than his reputation. I can see why that the change might be thought to be too abrupt (from the beautiful bastard who pushed a child out a window) but that goes back to his captivity and journey with Brienne rather than being recent.
Yes to the audience but what to the rest of Westeros. If they ask for an explanation, then he has to explain him coming back from the dead was a reason and that would stir up a controversy.
Absolutely. But I guess there are a few variables which go into it, which is difficult to get right. Like some actors could be brilliant for a role at the age of 7/8, but by the time they're in their teens, their acting ability hasn't quite developed as thought, or with the character's development.
Also it's a TV show, especially one with a cast this big, it was always going to be difficult to get only top tier (expensive) cast members. - as much as they'd have hoped, I'm not sure they'd have thought it was ever going to become the phenomenon it did become.
But yeah, it's neither here, nor there. I just can't wait for season 8 now
My bad.I agree as well.
It is all out there. Someone starting piecing it together from filming and other sources, the entire season was broken down in almost exact accuracy before the season started airing.
Rob wasn't the only one doing it I think, but by far the worst.
That's highly debatable. Ned wasn't a charming cheery fecker either but his character was fantastic and engaging.
But even if we go down that route, then it's the writing that's poor (IMO). Because while Sansa has come a long way, it takes good writing/acting/characterisation to make a strong impact on the viewer. A character simply coming a long way from A scenario to B doesn't do it for me. Maybe it's down to taste. I for one loved Tyion's development during seasons 1-4 or Walter White's in Breaking Bad (different level altogether but logic applies).
Walter annoyed the feck out of me personally. Character development was good, but couldn't stand the actor.
Weirdo.
I friggin love that man.
Walter had like 80% of the screen time in BB for feck sake. You can't really compare him to a character that has 1-2 scenes an episode, if even that.
Anyway Sansa is probably the worst of the main characters in GoT you could pick for development.
Jaime, Cersei, Theon and to a lesser extent Jon, Tyrion and Arya have all been developed far better.
EDIT: And Ser Pounce.
Anyway Sansa is probably the worst of the main characters in GoT you could pick for development.
Jaime, Cersei, Theon and to a lesser extent Jon, Tyrion and Arya have all been developed far better.
EDIT: And Ser Pounce.
On another note I found today that Lena Headley and Jerome Flynn can't stand each other in real life (after a break up) and won't share any screen time together. Makes sense of him disappearing with Pod at the start of those dragonpit discussions.
Nice start to Season 7 with a terrific peak in Eppy 4 but then proceeded to be a letdown by the finale. 6 episodes left, they will be sprinting to a finish at an even greater pace I feel
Actually I think everthing is set up perfectly for the final season now.
They completely rushed this season for sure, but as a result there's not actually that much left to resolve now. There are very few out-standing side plots left.
If I was the director I'd be telling them to feck off and do as they're told.
There are only two big storylines left, two wars left - The Great War and the final ever Battle for the Iron Throne. But dont you think the episodes will be around the same length as the finale? Maybe thats why they are fewer cause its longer?
Yup, written in their contracts that they film no scenes together. Also Peter Dinklage and Lena Headley are best friends and find it hard to film scenes together for the complete opposite reasons.
If the rumours of 90 minute episodes are true, then there's no reason why they can't wrap it up perfectly. Even if they weren't that long, there's only 2 main plot points and one side one of any note.
Not really, not all people get along at work.
I agree with this. Comprised of subtle dialogue and intricate plot-lines before, the show converged to a spectacular feast of special effects, with in-universe logic taking a back stance. As for the final season, I guess we will watch two great battles , and some filler in-between.
Don't agree with this, even if you don't get on with someone at work you still have to be professional and do your job. Nobody is saying they have to be best friends while working. Just smacks of pretentious diva like behaviour from the actors.
Yeah, but it just amused me that they all had to march up in formation, and make a big show of themselves, for the sake of a meeting about calling a truce. It is the exact opposite of what you would do if you wanted to call a truce. They weren't trying to negotiate Cersei into surrendering, so basically Dragon Queen just forced her entire army to march up and pose about in full fighting gear so she could go have a chat with some people for a few minutes. Then the have to march all the way up north.
1) Aside from all that, it doesn't make much sense from a resource point of view, to have them all march there and prance about a bit, just to then march all the way up north. You're about to fight some giant army of dead people...you probably don't want to be wasting your army's time or energy on marching aggressively about to prove they exist to some people who a) already know they exist and b) you're trying to convince not to have a fight with them. It just amused me. Danaerys would be really terrible at the Game of Thrones Risk board game.
2) No he hasn't. He was fairly prominent earlier on in the show too. At Blackwater, then with Arya. He had a character depth and development in those episodes. Now he just tells everyone to feck off whenever the show wants to add in some kind of comedy effect.
3) You sound like you wrote the show and are taking personal offence. Tyrion is now one of the most dull characters on the show, after previously having arguably been the best character. Cersei just schemes for the sake of scheming and Jamie I actually still quite like but he is another who used to be very interesting as a character and have a depth, which seems to have been lost. The show doesn't really seem to be about the characters anymore. It's all about setting up suspense using cheap short term methods. Still a hell of a lot better than anything else I watch on TV, but you can quite easily tell they are running out of episodes and material.
That's exactly it with her though. It's all evil scheming and backstabbing in the style of a typical comic book villain. Before you had her struggling to control Jeoffrey and protect him at the same time. Acting on emotion and being a very conflicted character. All of her actions were always driven by emotion. Now she is constantly calm and cold and schemes for the sake of scheming.
Everything Tyrion has done or advised since the start of season 6 has been a bit dumb. He wanted Danaerys to sail all her armies across the sea so they could just sit around not doing anything. Then somehow forgot about the time he spent as Master of Coin and the several scenes where his dad makes it very clear to him that the iron bank and the Tyrrels are what fund the crown. Now he's had a mystery meeting with his sister who he knows he can't trust and either decided to trust her to help them, or decided to trust her to help him. We don't know which but either seems pretty silly.
Yeah, and in the scene before, Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone and strikes the same rib twice in succession yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we- to believe that this is some sort of a magic xylophone or something?
This.
If you can avoid them to be in the same scene, then fine, but it should never come at the cost of shooting or changing a scene - or even making things uncomfortable for the rest of the cast. Don't let your personal life impact work.
Then again, the world and demands we live in, are worlds away from the one the rich and famous live in.
Sheringham and Cole managed to work together.
Aargh, I'd no even thought of them. What was the reasoning behind their hatred/dislike of each other?
edit: no worries. Google is my friend
Aargh, I'd no even thought of them. What was the reasoning behind their hatred/dislike of each other?
edit: no worries. Google is my friend
Teddy snubbed Cole when he was subbed on for him during an England game. Yeah I know
The human beetroot Bran was probably kept off screen for most of the season because he could have spoiled the story telling aspect of the show by revealing everything in a single episode. He'll probably have a lot more screen time next season, with amped up powers.
Yep I feel the same way.
I wonder what the episode lengths will look like next season, I'm hoping the finale is 2 hours at least
Yeah, I'd completely blanked on that, so I googled it now.Teddy snubbed Cole when he was subbed on for him during an England game. Yeah I know
Seems a wee bit of an OTT reaction, but oh well.
Guess it depends on the situation. Apparently, it was a horrible break up (don't know the details). From personal experience, it's far easier to work in an environmenta
where you don't have to deal with someone who you've gone through this particular situation with - obviously, only where it is possible. Their particular characters don't really need to film scenes together as it wouldn't really affect the outcome of the show.
Also, I reckon Cersei will suffer a miscarriage, and go full Mad Queen on Westeros, while the others are battling the Others. There was a lot of foreshadowing towards her ending up alone, during her scene with Jaime, where he keeps saying that now it's just the two of them left.
I am wondering how exactly is Jaime going to be of any help in the North unless he can bring his bannermen? Its not like he is a great fighter without his left hand. Maybe take Bronn with him but who else in terms of numbers?
He could reveal Cersei's true plan and warn Jon and Dany.
That still doesnt help them. They arent going to turn back and burn KL. Dany is committed to the North for now. I mean they will know they wont have the Lannisters soldiers to help but thats about it. It will only increase the anger they have for one another.
Easy. Some pretty detailed leaks of each episodes have been available on the web. Having read them before, they were 100% spot on.
Jamie's ascent to the north also means that all the Valyrian steel swords will be in the same general location for once.
We don't know where all her army was, do we? I don't think we do. It makes sense for her to have a pretty large army nearby just in case anything goes wrong, on top of which a medieval need for pageantry almost requires it.
Taking a real-world example, during the Hundred Years War when France was terribly weakened by the split between the Burgundians and Armagnacs, Jean sans Peur (the Duke of Burgundy) met the Dauphin Charles on the bridge of Montereau in the hope of making peace.
He went with about 400 men-at-arms (with more soldiers not far away) before going forward on to the bridge with a few companions. He was trapped and murdered, so it didn't do him much good but he'd never have gone without them.