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Has Bran ever revealed that Jaime was the one who pushed him out of the tower's window? If not, what's stopping him looking into the past and finding out?

Be great if the treasonous wretch that is Jaime Lannister gets his comeuppance in Winterfell next season. Sick of the shoddy writing which is painting him out to be a man of morals, which he never, ever was.
You what? It's excellent writing. Despite fecking his evil bitch of a sister, siring the anti-christ and pushing a boy from a high rise building they have the audience cheering for him. That's some achievement.
 
:lol::lol::lol: I found that entire scene incredibly cringey.

I laughed so hard at that bit, I had to pause the show.

Highlight of the season for me

I didn't mind the dragonpit scene as a whole, and Qyburn's intrigued face at the wight's hand while everyone else recoiled in panic, was rather enjoyable. But yeah, the demonstration felt out of place and ridiculous. Adding to the whole "dragons den" vibe.
 
Choo Choo!

I was convinced Arya and Sansa would team up, but I really didn't want LF to die. I was hoping he'd end up trying to twist Cersei back round his little finger...




People have had this theory before. I think it's more of a case he's more and more worried by the second she is turning out more like her father. If she keeps threatening Kings Landing and his pregnant sister with being burned alive, I can see his allegiance being questioned some what.
Unless he knows already that Jon is a Targaryen. He could also be thinking Dany will name Jon as her successor and maybe Jon is manipulating her to get exactly that. He may have made some kinda deal with Cersi with regards to convincing Dany to name her unborn child her successor in exchange for them becoming allies. Dany sleeping with Jon would make convincing her bit more difficult. Could be a lot of reasons but I still think he's a good guy.
 
The dragonpit meeting and demonstration didn't seem awkward to me. I'll probably watch it again tomorrow and see if I still feel the same.

The showmanship seemed suited to the largely medieval setting.
 
There is no logical explanation for Tyrion to betray. If it happens (for whatever reason they come out with), its gonna be pathetic.
The reason I am worried that Tyrion might betray Dany is at the end of the day he IS a Lannister. And after all that talk about children and finding out that Cersei is pregnant, they didnt show the rest of the conversation. They went straight to them walking back and Cersei accepting the truce again. I dont know if Cersei being pregnant changes anything for Tyrion.
 
What are the chances Cersei's baby comes out a dwarf and she kills it?
 
The reason I am worried that Tyrion might betray Dany is at the end of the day he IS a Lannister. And after all that talk about children and finding out that Cersei is pregnant, they didnt show the rest of the conversation. They went straight to them walking back and Cersei accepting the truce again. I dont know if Cersei being pregnant changes anything for Tyrion.

maybe tyrion is the father
 
I think Tyrion intended to be diplomatic and saw Cersei's child as the heir to Dany's throne like he had been discussing with her.

That look at the end was realisation/fear that shes going to have her own heir now.
 
The reason I am worried that Tyrion might betray Dany is at the end of the day he IS a Lannister. And after all that talk about children and finding out that Cersei is pregnant, they didnt show the rest of the conversation. They went straight to them walking back and Cersei accepting the truce again. I dont know if Cersei being pregnant changes anything for Tyrion.

Anything is possible, but ignoring 7 seasons of character development just to fit whatever finale they have in mind would be too much.
 
The dragonpit meeting and demonstration didn't seem awkward to me. I'll probably watch it again tomorrow and see if I still feel the same.

The showmanship seemed suited to the largely medieval setting.
It was the taking over from one another as if on cue that made it a little strange to me. When John picked up the hand and burned it it reminded me of the scene in Step Brothers where they were doing the pitch for Prestige Worldwide. I just wasn't right.
 
It was the taking over from one another as if on cue that made it a little strange to me. When John picked up the hand and burned it it reminded me of the scene in Step Brothers where they were doing the pitch for Prestige Worldwide. I just wasn't right.

Yeah, felt a bit like a school play with all the cued interruptions etc.
 
Yeah, felt a bit like a school play with all the cued interruptions etc.
But it was...
Euron was making a play to seem like he'd go away.
Cercei backed it as it's her plan anyway.

John & company needed to demonstrate the threat that they should all ally up to defeat.
Dany needed to show strength with her armies and dragons.
Tyrion has always been a bit of a "political speaker".

Think it was well done, to be honest.

Only thing I found a bit out of order was the hounds "fear" of the weight as I'm sure he had some dragonglass weapon nearby.
 
With the dead walking on towards the main lands, it would be quite hilarious if we start seeing them raising dead bodies of characters weve seen before. Like Robb with his direwolf head attached :lol: :nervous:

I liked the undead dragon. Its blue fire reminded me of Godzilla. It just looked spectacular.

just set him on fire..,. the guy walks so fecking slowly.

That would be some turnaround given how much the Hound is fearful of Fire (given his childhood story). It would be some way to do it as well.

A little underwhelming, that finale.

Show seems to move slower than the Night King.

Show is moving slow? :eek::eek::eek:

There is no logical explanation for Tyrion to betray. If it happens (for whatever reason they come out with), its gonna be pathetic.

Agreed. It really shouldnt happen at all. Sure, he may not want Cersei to be killed now, but shes been trying to kill him or humiliate him for all this time. One more child shouldnt make a difference, especially as that kid could easily be another Joffrey.
 
Didnt Robb, Jon and Ned always say the person who passes the sentence should wield the sword? I found it interesting that Sansa passed the sentence but Arya carried out the killing.
 
Didnt Robb, Jon and Ned always say the person who passes the sentence should wield the sword? I found it interesting that Sansa passed the sentence but Arya carried out the killing.
Did you see her dress? Getting blood on it would be a crime.

But really I think it's just a way of them separating Sansa from Ned, Jon and Robb's honourable foolishness. Sometimes you need to be underhanded, devious and let other people get their hands dirty for you.
 
The finale was alright.
Dragonpit was awkward and jarring to watch with that semi-rehearsed presentation, and Euron's swift departure was completely unbelievable.
Bran telling Sam about Jon's true lineage was annoying considering his ample chances to tell Sansa and Arya beforehand.
Jamie's head should have been lopped off to top a very good scene with Cersei.
Theon's little redemption arc is cute but held no emotional significance for me, and "stay down, or I'll kill you" was said one time too many with zero follow-through.
Winterfell was great apart from Littlefinger looking underwhelmingly out of his depth and under-prepared. Not a fan of Turner's acting but her and Williams were very good in that scene.
The big get together was a bit more parp than bang, and Tyrion did not help (Jorah might've been better there)
Eastwatch was great.
 
It was the taking over from one another as if on cue that made it a little strange to me. When John picked up the hand and burned it it reminded me of the scene in Step Brothers where they were doing the pitch for Prestige Worldwide. I just wasn't right.
Yup, the scene was too door to door salesman-sy. Giving a demo and all that
 
Was very pleased with this finale. After episode 5 and 6 and the all too convenient expedition beyond the wall mini-arc, I was afraid the writing would be subpar, but they really tightened things up. GoT is at its best not with battles and chases, but those great one on one scenes like when Tyrion faced his sister or even the conversation between Jon and Theon.


2 things though.


Was the scene between Sansa and Arya last episode just shadow play? Were they faking their contempt for one another? Because it looked pretty real to me back then. Or did Sansa’s decision to trust her sister and punish LIttlefinger come only after her conversation with Littlefinger with a lot of the preparation occurring offscreen?


Have all the “good” characters taken the Teflon inmortality pill? When even Beric Dondarrion is evading nuclear dragons, you know that it’s not the old GOT.
 
Loved the way Arya killed LF. No emotions. Just went up and BAM
 
Littlefinger's end was so forced and contrived. That ridiculous move of calling Arya before her, only to make the fans even giddier when Sansa then turned on LF. Wallbreaking fanservice bullshit.
 
Any idea, what Tyrion might have said to Cersei to convince her to come to a "Truce" with Dany ? How does her making Tyrion believe she is pregnant play a part ?
 
Was very pleased with this finale. After episode 5 and 6 and the all too convenient expedition beyond the wall mini-arc, I was afraid the writing would be subpar, but they really tightened things up. GoT is at its best not with battles and chases, but those great one on one scenes like when Tyrion faced his sister or even the conversation between Jon and Theon.


2 things though.


Was the scene between Sansa and Arya last episode just shadow play? Were they faking their contempt for one another? Because it looked pretty real to me back then. Or did Sansa’s decision to trust her sister and punish LIttlefinger come only after her conversation with Littlefinger with a lot of the preparation occurring offscreen?


Have all the “good” characters taken the Teflon inmortality pill? When even Beric Dondarrion is evading nuclear dragons, you know that it’s not the old GOT.

Don't think it needs to be in spoilers since you're asking about things that have already happened but just in case...

It all points to shadow play. Arya is overly relaxed when she walks in the room and she can't wipe the smirk off her face when she says "get on with it" to Sansa. The commander of the Knights of the Vale seemed well informed too. This, of course, doesn't mean that the scenes with Arya finding the letter and with Sansa discovering the faces weren't real. But the seeds of doubt and dissent that LF always tries to sow didn't work out toward his favor this time because both girls and Bran decided to stick together. I really enjoyed that, despite all they've been through, they decided to follow Ned's teachings in the end. And don't forget that Bran is an all knowing entity now, a breathing encycolpedia of Westeros. The "outdoors" scenes were faked by both probably because they wanted LF's eyes and ears to report a bad relationship between those two to him.

As for the other thing, it never really bothered me. It has happened a million times in action scenes and it will happen a million more. Heroes running away from a collapsing building and getting out just before everything collapses onto them. My guess, if you insist on an explanation, is that he might play some role in the Lord of Light story arc and that's why he was spared.
 
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how did the threadbanned poster know so much? Where was the leaks?

From seeing stuff on twitter and facebook in recent weeks I never saw anything that accurate
 
Any idea, what Tyrion might have said to Cersei to convince her to come to a "Truce" with Dany ? How does her making Tyrion believe she is pregnant play a part ?

Well she's lying, so he could have said anything.

Not sure what the intention is with the pregnancy. Maybe it was just to convince Tyrion that she was being honest when she formed the truce. But then they reference the pregnancy in the conversation with Jamie so it doesn't seem like a red herring.
 
Well he topped himself coz she was being a twat so a bit of a stretch there...

His suicide was the culmination of the High Sparrow arc, which would never have happened if Tywin was around. (even though it was her stupid decision)