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There just has to be more to the Tormund/Brienne story. He can't be gone.
Agreed. No use in saving him the previous episode only for him to die from the wall collapsing in this one. Seems like a shit way to go for a big character.
 
The only bad thing imo was the whole Greyjoy fight and how easily swayed the Ironborn were.

Also does this mean Tormund and Beric are dead? Probably not but the whole Eastwatch side of the wall came down.

1. The Ironborn are pretty similar to the Dothraki. Theon killed their leader and took his place.
2. I've seen the final section a few times. A little confusing as the editing is bad. Tormund (looks like him anyway) is shown running down the stairs but next time we see him he's on top of the wall again. They were on the west side of the wall though (the bit that remained intact).
 
Has Tyrion fecked everything with his stupid expedition plan? How would the Night King gone through the wall if he hadn't gifted the dragon..

And the scene where he is standing in the shadows like a creep,I think he has some sort of deal with cercei..

Overall enjoyable episode.. Feels like Jon planned the whole Boat thing in advance.. It was like they planned to meet in her apartment after dinner..

Only disappointment overall was Jon not meeting Arya this season,considering that is my most anticipated stark kids reunion.. Would have made for a nice scene..
 
Has Tyrion fecked everything with his stupid expedition plan? How would the Night King gone through the wall if he hadn't gifted the dragon..

And the scene where he is standing in the shadows like a creep,I think he has some sort of deal with cercei..

Overall enjoyable episode.. Feels like Jon planned the whole Boat thing in advance.. It was like they planned to meet in her apartment after dinner..

Only disappointment overall was Jon not meeting Arya this season,considering that is my most anticipated stark kids reunion.. Would have made for a nice scene..
Pretty sure this is happen episode 1 of season 8. He needs a reunion with his wolf as well.
 
Ellaria and Tyene was his gift to Cersei, he the left the Red Keep with Yara.
Then there is no way Theon will find the fleet to save Yara then cause as far as Theon knows, Euron is sailing back to the Iron Islands but now we know he is sailing to Essos.
 
Then there is no way Theon will find the fleet to save Yara then cause as far as Theon knows, Euron is sailing back to the Iron Islands but now we know he is sailing to Essos.

Given the way the show is structuring its timeline we could see Euron sail to Essos and back before Theon reaches the Iron Island and I wouldn't blink.
 
Then there is no way Theon will find the fleet to save Yara then cause as far as Theon knows, Euron is sailing back to the Iron Islands but now we know he is sailing to Essos.

Unless Jamie pulls the rug from under Cersei's plan and they get word to Theon (somehow).
 
Has Bran ever revealed that Jaime was the one who pushed him out of the tower's window? If not, what's stopping him looking into the past and finding out?

Be great if the treasonous wretch that is Jaime Lannister gets his comeuppance in Winterfell next season. Sick of the shoddy writing which is painting him out to be a man of morals, which he never, ever was.
 
Has Bran ever revealed that Jaime was the one who pushed him out of the tower's window? If not, what's stopping him looking into the past and finding out?

Be great if the treasonous wretch that is Jaime Lannister gets his comeuppance in Winterfell next season. Sick of the shoddy writing which is painting him out to be a man of morals, which he never, ever was.
Nothing tbh and officially he hasn't went back to that moment in full clarity so he still doesn't know it's Jaime who pushed him. Maybe with Jaime heading to Winterfell he'll go back in time to really watch everything in detail. I remember (not which episode of which season) that Bran had a compilation of visions (the one that included the shadow of a massive dragon flying over KL) and in them there was the scene of him falling from the tower.
 
Has Bran ever revealed that Jaime was the one who pushed him out of the tower's window? If not, what's stopping him looking into the past and finding out?

Be great if the treasonous wretch that is Jaime Lannister gets his comeuppance in Winterfell next season. Sick of the shoddy writing which is painting him out to be a man of morals, which he never, ever was.
Jaime is a good man and the greatest battle commander alive
 
Has Bran ever revealed that Jaime was the one who pushed him out of the tower's window? If not, what's stopping him looking into the past and finding out?

Be great if the treasonous wretch that is Jaime Lannister gets his comeuppance in Winterfell next season. Sick of the shoddy writing which is painting him out to be a man of morals, which he never, ever was.


I'm pretty sure he can see a lot, but he cant choose exactly what to see.

He said once he only gets glimpses of the past, present and future, so its not he can see everything he want.
 
I'm pretty sure he can see a lot, but he cant choose exactly what to see.

He said once he only gets glimpses of the past, present and future, so its not he can see everything he want.

If he wants to, he has to focus, otherwise everything is like hes in a spiny room drunken state..
 
Hopefully Bran will say in his creepy voice to Jamie "the things we do for love" and then proceed to run him over with his wheel chair.
 
There was so much that was done fantastically well in comparison to episode six. I could right a mini fecking thesis on it. So instead of doing that because I'm a lazy feck, I'll just say I loved it.
 
More than Cercei, I think Jon can use Qybuen.. He's like the mad scientist,he's already made an undead person without ice magic or lord of light.. The way he was examining the hand gave me the creeps..

coming to winterfell,was the whole scene with Arya and Sansa arguing last episode just a drama for littlefnger? If so,how would he know that the sisters were fighting..
 
Bloody 'eck, watched it 20 hours after it first aired and there's already 15 pages in here!

Amazing episode, Game of Thrones at its absolute best.

The only thing that tarnishes it, and this season for me, is the ridiculous expedition up beyond the wall. It was such a fecking contrived plot, with a daft plan, that ultimately only led to everything falling into place for the Nightwalkers in the final season. It's also a bit silly, basically, if they'd left them alone, they'd never have been able to come South anyway. Although it makes sense, Jon loved going north of the wall so I guess it's easier for him to have them south of it now.

Still, 10/10 episode, 8/10 season.

Baelish will get found out this season and meet a grisly end. I'm going to guess at a timeline.

First couple of episodes: As we've seen in the trailer, Jon and Baelish have a conversation in the crypt - probably about Jon's heritage or that he's not a "proper king" - remember that it was Baelish who told Sansa the story about Rhaegar and Lyanna in season 5. The conversation leads to Jon becoming a bit wound up and pushing Baelish up against the wall, mirroring Ned's first meeting with him in season one outside the King's Landing brothel. Littlefinger will use this chat as an opportunity to get the measure of Jon, to see how easily he can be wound up, and will begin to plant the idea in Sansa's head that she's a more worthy ruler because her temper is cooler and she's a better strategist - "Jon can't be trusted, that's why you didn't tell him about the Knights of the Vale" he'll say to her. Sansa will begin to doubt Jon, and if she's got even the slightest inkling that he's a Targaryen there could be more trouble in the works.

Mid-season: Jon has left Winterfell to go north beyond the Wall, leaving Sansa in charge. Baelish takes this opportunity to show Sansa she can manage the politics of the North by herself, that she could easily step in and do the job if Jon were to die beyond the Wall. Arya and Bran have both arrived back at Winterfell, but the reunion doesn't last long as Baelish immediately sets about causing a rift between the Stark children, playing on the fact that Arya and Sansa never got on in the first place. Cracks begin to appear in the relationship between the Stark children.

Final two/three episodes: Something happens to make Sansa reconsider things. Maybe Brienne says a few wise words. This, I imagine, is where the "The lone wolf dies but the pack survives" speech will come into it, that Sansa, Jon, Arya and Bran need to stick together when the full force of winter arrives. Maybe the show will make it really convenient and wrap it up easily, with Bran looking into the past and seeing that Baelish betrayed Ned, murdered Jon Arryn and that his feelings for Sansa are a mixture of necrophiliac lust for Catelyn and his own desire to take the Iron Throne. He's betrayed a Stark to get what he wants before, and he'll betray a Stark to get what he wants again. With everything out in the wash, Sansa sentences Baelish to death and Arya carries out the deed with his own dagger. Everyone goes home happy.
:lol: what an utter cnut.
 
I also agree with whoever it was that said the actor that plays Sam does a great job. A lot of the character's story has been absolute dross but he does a great job with what he's been given, particularly in the more comedic moments.

Yeah he cracks me up sometimes. Some of his stuff with Gilly's a bit of a drag but his oh when Bran told him about the three-eyed raven thing was quite funny. Plus he's properly developed as a character as well without becoming a parody of himself like some of the others.
 
Hopefully Bran will say in his creepy voice to Jamie "the things we do for love" and then proceed to run him over with his wheel chair.

"You looked beautiful in that tower before you tried to murder me."
 
Baelish will get found out this season and meet a grisly end. I'm going to guess at a timeline.

First couple of episodes: As we've seen in the trailer, Jon and Baelish have a conversation in the crypt - probably about Jon's heritage or that he's not a "proper king" - remember that it was Baelish who told Sansa the story about Rhaegar and Lyanna in season 5. The conversation leads to Jon becoming a bit wound up and pushing Baelish up against the wall, mirroring Ned's first meeting with him in season one outside the King's Landing brothel. Littlefinger will use this chat as an opportunity to get the measure of Jon, to see how easily he can be wound up, and will begin to plant the idea in Sansa's head that she's a more worthy ruler because her temper is cooler and she's a better strategist - "Jon can't be trusted, that's why you didn't tell him about the Knights of the Vale" he'll say to her. Sansa will begin to doubt Jon, and if she's got even the slightest inkling that he's a Targaryen there could be more trouble in the works.

Mid-season: Jon has left Winterfell to go north beyond the Wall, leaving Sansa in charge. Baelish takes this opportunity to show Sansa she can manage the politics of the North by herself, that she could easily step in and do the job if Jon were to die beyond the Wall. Arya and Bran have both arrived back at Winterfell, but the reunion doesn't last long as Baelish immediately sets about causing a rift between the Stark children, playing on the fact that Arya and Sansa never got on in the first place. Cracks begin to appear in the relationship between the Stark children.

Final two/three episodes: Something happens to make Sansa reconsider things. Maybe Brienne says a few wise words. This, I imagine, is where the "The lone wolf dies but the pack survives" speech will come into it, that Sansa, Jon, Arya and Bran need to stick together when the full force of winter arrives. Maybe the show will make it really convenient and wrap it up easily, with Bran looking into the past and seeing that Baelish betrayed Ned, murdered Jon Arryn and that his feelings for Sansa are a mixture of necrophiliac lust for Catelyn and his own desire to take the Iron Throne. He's betrayed a Stark to get what he wants before, and he'll betray a Stark to get what he wants again. With everything out in the wash, Sansa sentences Baelish to death and Arya carries out the deed with his own dagger. Everyone goes home happy.

feck off!

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