Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

devilish said:
I said the moment you notice that all Rhaegar's sons (ie 2-infinity) are called Aegon. This show is getting more and more idiotic tbh. Who names his 2 sons with the same name?
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Aegon the conqueror was the first man to rule over Westeros. Rhaegar's son, according to a prophecy, is supposed to be the prince that was promised. Basically a successor to the throne the likes of which they hadn't seen for a very long time. What better name for such a child than the name of the first ruler himself? He named his first born Aegon because he mistakenly thought he was the prince who was promised. Then he probably got news of his death, and asked Lyanna to name his second son Aegon, believing that this one will grow up to be the chosen one.
 
van der star said:
Aegon the conqueror was the first man to rule over Westeros. Rhaegar's son, according to a prophecy, is supposed to be the prince that was promised. Basically a successor to the throne the likes of which they hadn't seen for a very long time. What better name for such a child than the name of the first ruler himself? He named his first born Aegon because he mistakenly thought he was the prince who was promised. Then he probably got news of his death, and asked Lyanna to name his second son Aegon, believing that this one will grow up to be the chosen one.
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The prince that was promised was Elia's Aegon not Lyanna's child. The 3 Targ children were needed for another prophecy ie the 3 headed dragons which were meant to bring dragons back to the world. Its pretty stupid for someone to call his two sons the same. Also note that by the time Jon was born Rhaegar was already dead and since GOT don't have ultrasound Jon could have easily been a girl. Rest assured that the Targs had many heroes for kids to be named. Same as the Starks
 
robinamicrowave said:
Baelish will get found out this season and meet a grisly end. I'm going to guess at a timeline.

First couple of episodes: As we've seen in the trailer, Jon and Baelish have a conversation in the crypt - probably about Jon's heritage or that he's not a "proper king" - remember that it was Baelish who told Sansa the story about Rhaegar and Lyanna in season 5. The conversation leads to Jon becoming a bit wound up and pushing Baelish up against the wall, mirroring Ned's first meeting with him in season one outside the King's Landing brothel. Littlefinger will use this chat as an opportunity to get the measure of Jon, to see how easily he can be wound up, and will begin to plant the idea in Sansa's head that she's a more worthy ruler because her temper is cooler and she's a better strategist - "Jon can't be trusted, that's why you didn't tell him about the Knights of the Vale" he'll say to her. Sansa will begin to doubt Jon, and if she's got even the slightest inkling that he's a Targaryen there could be more trouble in the works.

Mid-season: Jon has left Winterfell to go north beyond the Wall, leaving Sansa in charge. Baelish takes this opportunity to show Sansa she can manage the politics of the North by herself, that she could easily step in and do the job if Jon were to die beyond the Wall. Arya and Bran have both arrived back at Winterfell, but the reunion doesn't last long as Baelish immediately sets about causing a rift between the Stark children, playing on the fact that Arya and Sansa never got on in the first place. Cracks begin to appear in the relationship between the Stark children.

Final two/three episodes: Something happens to make Sansa reconsider things. Maybe Brienne says a few wise words. This, I imagine, is where the "The lone wolf dies but the pack survives" speech will come into it, that Sansa, Jon, Arya and Bran need to stick together when the full force of winter arrives. Maybe the show will make it really convenient and wrap it up easily, with Bran looking into the past and seeing that Baelish betrayed Ned, murdered Jon Arryn and that his feelings for Sansa are a mixture of necrophiliac lust for Catelyn and his own desire to take the Iron Throne. He's betrayed a Stark to get what he wants before, and he'll betray a Stark to get what he wants again. With everything out in the wash, Sansa sentences Baelish to death and Arya carries out the deed with his own dagger. Everyone goes home happy.
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"I'm going to guess at a timeline." :lol::lol:
 
devilish said:
The prince that was promised was Elia's Aegon not Lyanna's child. The 3 Targ children were needed for another prophecy ie the 3 headed dragons which were meant to bring dragons back to the world. Its pretty stupid for someone to call his two sons the same. Also note that by the time Jon was born Rhaegar was already dead and since GOT don't have ultrasound Jon could have easily been a girl. Rest assured that the Targs had many heroes for kids to be named. Same as the Starks
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Meh, I tried.
 
How would Bran And the Night King being the same makes sense if they are both in the same timeline, different place? Time is cyclic?

Stupid theories people come up to, only for the writers to full fill them in even more idiotic ways.
 
George Owen said:
How would Bran And the Night King being the same makes sense if they are both in the same timeline, different place? Time is cyclic?

Stupid theories people come up to, only for the writers to full fill them in even more idiotic ways.
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There's a theory that suggested that Bran went back in time to find a way to defeat the NK, got stuck in the body of whoever he'd warged into, and stayed trapped there. This person was the fella the children of the forest stuck their dagger into, turning him into the NK.
 
kps88 said:
:lol: It's a shame he's banned from the thread; I want to see his reaction.
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He'd still be denying it, just as he was yesterday.

I just don't get why people do it. He was never gunna get a reaction like "OMG you're so amazing how did you guess??" Was always gunna end this way.
 
van der star said:
Meh, I tried.
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I find it very lazy because there's plenty of great Targeryans around. If they want to stick to just show material then they could have mentioned Jon as Brynden (for the bloodraven) or Aemon (ie the old dude Rhaegar respected and loved). Else if they want to bridge the present show to the future shows then Cregan or Bealor would be a great choice. Instead we have 2 children with the same name and surname
 
robinamicrowave said:
Also, another general comment about the pacing of the show is that in some ways it's not sped up as much as people generally think. Remember back to season one, where Tyrion goes from King's Landing, to Winterfell, to the Wall, to the Inn at the Crossroads, to the Eyrie, to the Green Fork and back to King's Landing in 10 episodes? [Continues in a spoiler box, season 7 spoilers]

If Jon goes from Winterfell to Dragonstone, to beyond the Wall, to King's Landing this season, is that any quicker or further in distance than Tyrion travelled in the early days?
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:lol: feckin ell.
 
devilish said:
I find it very lazy because there's plenty of great Targeryans around. If they want to stick to just show material then they could have mentioned Jon as Brynden (for the bloodraven) or Aemon (ie the old dude Rhaegar respected and loved). Else if they want to bridge the present show to the future shows then Cregan or Bealor would be a great choice. Instead we have 2 children with the same name and surname
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True, I wonder how GRRM will play this out in the books.
 
Carl said:
He'd still be denying it, just as he was yesterday.

I just don't get why people do it. He was never gunna get a reaction like "OMG you're so amazing how did you guess??" Was always gunna end this way.
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He did get some creaming over his explanations though, unless I am remembering it wrong. Sad.
 
At some point we should compile a list of everyone that blatantly tried to spoil it for others so people can put them on ignore for the next season. There is no way in hell I want the final season spoiling for me but I love to share what I think is going to happen based on already aired episodes only.
 
Well, not my favourite season ever but it certainly sets up an interesting end-game.

Pros - Jaime's transition from utter bastard into the person I'm rooting for the most is complete. Excellent writing and performance from Nikolaj.
The action set pieces were incredible, especially the Field of Fire.
It was frantic, fast paced and heart wrenching at times. When they turned the emotional risks up this year they didn't hold back.
Winter is finally here.
There has been at least two knob jokes every episode this season. And a zombie polar bear. It's been written by geniuses.

Cons - Everything that the main characters have done has worked out for them without any hiccups, except for the taking of Casterly Rock (which was only a minor hiccup for the Unsullied as they all seem to have returned without any problems). I want tension, dammit!
Everyone important has huge amounts of plot armour. The characters who were killed off were of no significance to the story. And on that subject...
Littlefinger's arc this entire season. Throughout the show he's been the web weaver who has worked in the background to disturb everyone else's plans. This season he looked about shiftily like the dog in Homer's remake of Mr Smith Goes to Washington, doing absolutely nothing except fall into a half arsed bait and switch trap. There was so much potential to be set up with him this season but instead they just treated him, and by extension the arc for Sansa and Arya, as secondary.
There has been at least two knob jokes every episode this season. And a zombie polar bear. It's been written by children.

Overall - Seasons 1 through 5 were Campbell's Soup. Season 6 was Asda's own brand of imitation Campbell's Soup, which is actually still just as good in its on way. Season 7 has been Asda's imitation Campbell's Soup again, with an improved formula - but it's one of those smaller tins with the concentrated liquid. And someone has made you eat it without adding water. I mean, sure it's still decent soup but you're just crying out for them to go back to the bigger tin.

I'm hungry now.
 
Anyone who reads theories/spoilers/leaks & then then passes it off as their own theories just to act smart is a sad person.

Nobody will think that person is clever, they'll be remembered as a cnut.
 
Had a feeling that Robin had read the spoilers. No one can talk about GoT with such confidence. Hell, Even I'd gone through the script, albeit just skimmed through it and even then I wasn't 100% about the timelines
 
anant said:
Had a feeling that Robin had read the spoilers. No one can talk about GoT with such confidence. Hell, Even I'd gone through the script, albeit just skimmed through it and even then I wasn't 100% about the timelines
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He might be a sad little child but his name is not Robin. It's Rob.
 
Apt...

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Don't read if you don't want any theories.

Do we think the reason why the conversation between him and Cersei was cut short after the "you're pregnant line" is because Tyrion switched allegiances at that point? It's a bit far fetched, but might explain why Cersei strolls out and pretends to side with them knowing she has an informant on the inside. That also explains the creepy Tyrion corridor scene. It would also be ironic given that Jamie then switches sides.

But the problem is that I don't think it suits Tyrions character. I don't see why Cersei being pregnant would make him suddenly switch like that, but we have seen him struggle lately with Daenerys, so maybe he felt that was the time to side back with his family?
 
ha_rooney said:
Anyone who reads theories/spoilers/leaks & then then passes it off as their own theories just to act smart is a sad person.

Nobody will think that person is clever, they'll be remembered as a cnut.
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For some reason I found myself reading that in The Hound's voice.
 
RedSky said:
Don't read if you don't want any theories.

Do we think the reason why the conversation between him and Cersei was cut short after the "you're pregnant line" is because Tyrion switched allegiances at that point? It's a bit far fetched, but might explain why Cersei strolls out and pretends to side with them knowing she has an informant on the inside. That also explains the creepy Tyrion corridor scene. It would also be ironic given that Jamie then switches sides.

But the problem is that I don't think it suits Tyrions character. I don't see why Cersei being pregnant would make him suddenly switch like that, but we have seen him struggle lately with Daenerys, so maybe he felt that was the time to side back with his family?
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I was thinking the same thing in regards to him switching sides, and it being because of the pregnancy.

I do think the motives however would be because he blames himself for the deaths of the Lannister children (as shown in the episode) and this (securing a future for the unborn child) was his shot at redemption. Add to that the talk of the importance of an heir from the previous episode, and the two go hand in hand.
 
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