Pretty sure everyone will believe what Bran says. He's proven to everyone that he has vision, and can quite easily prove it to Danny with a couple of personal revelations of her own life if need be.
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Pretty sure everyone will believe what Bran says. He's proven to everyone that he has vision, and can quite easily prove it to Danny with a couple of personal revelations of her own life if need be.
Dude dead ppl walking is alright but a dead fecking dragon flying is unscientific for you?
Beats me it's like reading the end of a book before starting it.
Everyone knows dragons are hydrogen based life forms and also have a helium bladder. They instead of pissing just vent Helium.
You and loads of other people.When the leaked episode came out, there was a message thread set up by the people who wanted to watch it and talk about it. I said that the dragon was how they would get through the wall.
Love the character development of Jaime. Season 1 he was a prick who tried kill a kid and who we all hated. Now he is a character that I am really rooting for.
Thank God Cerci put an end to the prospect of everyone banding together to fight the common enemy, a nauseating thought.
Wonder what the Night King's plan was before he was gifted a dragon?
Hold on:
If Jon knows that killing the walkers kills the army of the dead why is he trying to lead an entire army to fight the army of the dead instead of focusing on killing the 4 or whatever walkers? I am also surprised he hasn't theorised about them bringing the dragon back to life as well. I suppose some of this will wash out next season where Bran will start feeding heavily into the strategy. Also with Jamie presumably riding north surely Cersei's plan will unravel quite quickly when they twig he's effectively abandoned her. I don't see how they tie up all these plot lines in 6 episodes.
I like the little "let's go and have a drink pod" so Lena headey and jerrome Flynn didn't have to be in a scene together 
(apparently they used to date and now can't stand to be near each other)
(apparently they used to date and now can't stand to be near each other)Well done us!
Motherfecker played a blue eyes white dragon.
Dead people walking is still believable. Dead flying dragon would have been ok too. It's the massive holes in the wings of said dragon that should theoretically make it incapable of flight.
That's just bad chemistry.
Twas mentioned that there are many more than 4 walkers, the NK creates new ones from the babies he took from ol' Craster.
I'd say he must be a little pissed with that. One of the biggest scenes in the show's history and even though his character is a high-ranking Lord now and Jaime's right hand (lol) man, he can't be in it due to whatever happened between those two.I like the little "let's go and have a drink pod" so Lena headey and jerrome Flynn didn't have to be in a scene together
A rough figure I selected either way there's significantly less of them than dead people. Also does the baby still have to grow or does he just become a fully fleshed walker?
So when in the end Wall crumbled, where have all the ice disappear on the ground, pieces of it etc? When the undead army came through, it was like the wall wasn't even there.
Lies! Lies!
Lies! Lies!
Or alternatively considering how central her character is to the show greatful she hadn't lobbied to have killed off?
He told Euron & everybody else that the walkers can't swim, so I'm guessing that he doesn't think it's possible for them to dive down and retrieve the dragon?
They never expanded on it. They showed in one of the earlier episodes how the NK touched a baby and it's eyes turned blue, like that of a walker.
Didn't it fall into the sea? Or did I imagine that?So when in the end Wall crumbled, where have all the ice disappear on the ground, pieces of it etc? When the undead army came through, it was like the wall wasn't even there.
Lies! Lies!
Would be an interesting twist if there's significantly more walkers than JS anticipates.
What really bothers me about this season is their silly expedition north. It was utterly ridiculous for Tyrion to come up with it (as Cersei's reaction was completely predictable, especially for him), for Jon to join it and perhaps more so for Dany/Tyrion to allow him to do so. He's the king in the north in name and the key to the north in function, you don't sacrifice him for a hail mary mission. At the same time it's the centerpiece of the story, it provides the WW with a Dragon to overcome the wall, it breaks up Cersei and Jaime, it re-introduces the Hound, it's the catalyst for Dany's and Jon's relationship.
Feels so much like a very cheap short cut to me in terms of story telling.
I didn't like what they did with LF either. They dragged him along making omnious faces for ages, until the kids decide they see through him and kill him? The way they made him attempt to pit the sisters against each other was especially badly wirtten imho. You have this masterful manipulator, who for all we know genuinely attemped to educate Sansa in his craft and blunders onto the trecherous ground of fratricide with the subtlety of a bulldozer.
And what was that twist of summoning Arya to accuse LF? Yeah, it was a nice stunt for us viewers, but I struggle to see the logic behind it.
That being said I really liked Cersei's scenes. I think both writers and actress do a great job of portraying that thin line between calculation/cunning and pettiness that borders on insanity of that character.
I wonder what they intent to do with Tyrion's knowledge of D+J.
Feels so much like a very cheap short cut to me in terms of story telling.
I didn't like what they did with LF either. They dragged him along making omnious faces for ages, until the kids decide they see through him and kill him? The way they made him attempt to pit the sisters against each other was especially badly wirtten imho. You have this masterful manipulator, who for all we know genuinely attemped to educate Sansa in his craft and blunders onto the trecherous ground of fratricide with the subtlety of a bulldozer.
And what was that twist of summoning Arya to accuse LF? Yeah, it was a nice stunt for us viewers, but I struggle to see the logic behind it.
That being said I really liked Cersei's scenes. I think both writers and actress do a great job of portraying that thin line between calculation/cunning and pettiness that borders on insanity of that character.
I wonder what they intent to do with Tyrion's knowledge of D+J.
Don't think the idea that he's concerned because they might have a child makes a lot of sense. Dany is young, healthy and hardly let a celibate life before. If she can have children she's going to have one sooner or later.
On the other hand who would be a better companion/husband from Tyrion's perspective than Jon? His character is pure to the point of stupidity.
On the other hand who would be a better companion/husband from Tyrion's perspective than Jon? His character is pure to the point of stupidity.
The whole idea to go beyond the wall to convince Cersei of the undead army was stupid and completely unrealistic.
1) They should know that no matter what she says they can't trust her.
2) They risked losing most of their important military commanders on a suicide mission.
3) They actually lost a dragon and gave the NK a method of bringing down the wall.
4) The army of the dead was stuck behind the wall until they gave them a method of bringing it down.
That said after bringing myself to accept that it had happened I thought this episode was awesome. I still think they are stupid for trusting Cersei though.
The conclusion of the Witerfell plot was brilliant. I seriously feel that Sansa was falling for it right up until he asked her why did Arya want to kill her. She knew as well as we do that Arya does not want to be a lady. I was like but that's not Arya and you know that's not Arya.
It kind of made the ending because I was happy to be proven right.
I liked the dragon pit scene really happy that Jon kept his honour intact. I still think they are very naive to believe a word that came out of Cersei's mouth, especially as they were so upset at Jon for not lying.
The way that Bran and Sam worked out that Jon was a Targaryen Just as he and Dany were getting together was brilliant.
The dragon bringing the wall down was great CGI although I still feel it should never have happened.
Unbelievable
Assuming this is what @Redlambs was talking about.Im guessing there are others (from other posters).
I see hes been thread banned. Thats a huge post to make for a lot of specific stuff to put on a forum to get ... props for predictions? Its nuts. I vaguely remember this post, but now its annoying as speculation or theories could be actual spoilers.
And now if I discuss this with others and gain thoughts from it to base an opinion, I wont even know
Mad.True, I do think Jon would have been worried at the prospect or at least considered it. Surely he would have wondered why the NK targeted that dragon and not the one he was on? I suppose they'll find out relatively soon anyway.
I reckon the NK sired a bunch of walkers and uses them as his cronies to go recruit more bodies for his undead army.
Big portion of it yeah, but part of it fell to the ground below, it really was too clean where they passed through, big nitpicking but it was kinda strange to me.
Just for effect innit? The big shot as the episode and season ends is showing this massive dead army marching beyond the wall. Wouldn't have quite the same impact if the shot was instead of a few zombies stumbling about over a load of rubble.
Some of the dead people don't have muscles on their legs just bones. How would they move them to walk?
Littlefinger .
I really thought* Sansa was going to take his side and then take him to bed, mid-coitus he would then whip his face off and reveal he was Arya all along and then they'd just carry on.
*fantasised
.I really thought* Sansa was going to take his side and then take him to bed, mid-coitus he would then whip his face off and reveal he was Arya all along and then they'd just carry on.
*fantasised
I don't think it'll matter about Jon being the heir to the throne, I think he'll claim it once the war's over, hopefully he'll be one of the few survivors. No way Dany and Cersei make it out alive, maybe Dany will give Jon a child then die.
The ice-dragon!! fecking hell
It'll be hard for the creators of the show to portray every member of the undead army in an acceptable manner. There's too many of them. But there's only one fecking ice breathing dragon that's central to the plot!
Technically it shouldn't be able to fly at all given its wing-to-body ratio. Best not to dwell on the physics.
Fantastic finale.
Agree with both. Having watched the 'inside the episode' feature for the finale - and the others too - it's clear that D+D were intent on having a dragon destroy the wall. They were determined to go down this route regardless of whether the actions required would be sensible or true to the characters.
While they do the major set-pieces incredibly well, they seem too focused on doing them because they'd be awesome rather than whether it's logical. It's like they decided that the wall has to come down by dragon fire(?) in the season finale, so for that to happen the NK needs to get a dragon, so for that to happen Dany needs to take her Dragon's north of the wall, so for that to happen she needs to first know about them and secondly to have a motivation to go.
So they put all the pieces together to get to that point, but don't stop to think whether the individual pieces are logical. And to do that in a shorter amount of time has led to all the stupid time-jumps.
The wing to body mass ratio has always been off. We've hardly, if ever, seen a dragon depicted in a manner that makes it a believable concept. But those holes in the wings are just taking the piss. Shoddy work from the CGI folk.