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Cersei blaming him for their deaths was absolute bollocks anyway. Tommen died indirectly due to Cersei, after she killed Margaery and destroyed the faith. Tyrion did originally ship Myrcella to Dorne but her death was largely revenge for Oberyn's.

Oberyn's death occurred indirectly because of Joffrey's. Cersei accused Tyrion of his murder without any proof because she was desperate to see him dead and wouldn't consider the various other potential murderers who all had solid motives. She did more to result in their deaths than anyone else.
All good points but then whats your theory behind why Tyrion was watching Jon and Dany?
 
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The scene where Craster's boy is turned by the NK. I doubt he'd have anyone other than his white walker generals at such a ceremony.

How many have died? Sam killed one, Jon killed two, Meera killed one. Is that it?
 
All good points but then whats your theory behind why Tyrion was watching Jon and Dany?

It's possibly related to his conversation with Cersei. I doubt he's outright betrayed her, but I suspect the two discussed something he reasonably shouldn't be hiding from her.

Besides that though, considering it was contrasted with the Rhaegar/Lyanna wedding, I think there's the chance he's just worried that two major leaders of the war effort falling in love will likely end in doom and disaster if things go south. Naturally an alliance between the pair is beneficial, but now they've developed genuine feelings it could complicate things.
 
Very good episode. Big improvement on last week which i didn't care for at all. Some of the dialogue is still pretty rough, but that's just something i'll have to accept since they've left the books behind.

The tension was very palpable when they all met in the dragon pit. Terrific scene. The bit were Euron feigned cowardice was so clearly not true, and when it was revealed later that it was actually all a ruse, it was to no surprise. So that really didn't land.

Great scenes between Tyrion and Cersei. Superbly acted by both. Done a great job of conveying all of their baggage and history together.

This whole Arya and Sansa thing obviously reached its denouement this episode, and I've had a big problem with this storyline this season. I was really bothered by it last week, and while we obviously learned that Arya's animosity towards Sansa was basically all a ruse, i still can't help but feel a little underwhelmed by it all. I guess Littlefinger had to go in the end, but for all the character has been through in this show, for all the scheming and subterfuge that's he's employed to get himself into this position, it all just seems a bit...anticlimactic? I dunno.

I'm just really glad that this whole thing between Arya and Sansa was a show, because that would have been truly awful. We obviously got the whole thing with Jon and his parentage, which was pretty obvious to anyone who's been paying attention. Just there for confirmation really. Thought it was well done though. Bit awkward to learn that Dany is indeed his aunt while he lays there banging her. Oh well, c'est la vie.

The ending was great though. I love the White Walkers and was filled with glee when the Night King came riding in like a boss to bring down the wall. I'm not sure if we're supposed to feel despair at this, but i was cheering.

Just so sad that it's over for another year now.
 
Honestly thought Jamie should have been killed. There was no shock factor death wise in this series. Cerci getting the Mountain to end him instead of letting him walk away would have been great.
 
Honestly thought Jamie should have been killed. There was no shock factor death wise in this series. Cerci getting the Mountain to end him instead of letting him walk away would have been great.

Suppose, but Jaime's arc finally leading to him abandoning Cersei and joining the fight against the WW's felt like the right move. Cersei just offing him would've been disappointing. Hopefully now we're in the final season a lot of key characters will lose their plot armour, which should ramp up the tension.
 
Suppose, but Jaime's arc finally leading to him abandoning Cersei and joining the fight against the WW's felt like the right move. Cersei just offing him would've been disappointing. Hopefully now we're in the final season a lot of key characters will lose their plot armour, which should ramp up the tension.

I predicted a while back on here that Jamie and Cerci would end like Romeo & Juliet with Jamie killing her and then himself. Still set up for that I reckon.
 
Is it bad that I believed Euron the first time? I mean I knew it was a really weird change of character and it was strange but I took it for granted since this is D&D and I was about to complain massively until the reveal. I hope someone else bought into it like I did lol.
 
Is it bad that I believed Euron the first time? I mean I knew it was a really weird change of character and it was strange but I took it for granted since this is D&D and I was about to complain massively until the reveal. I hope someone else bought into it like I did lol.

I believed it. Thought it made sense.
 
Is it bad that I believed Euron the first time? I mean I knew it was a really weird change of character and it was strange but I took it for granted since this is D&D and I was about to complain massively until the reveal. I hope someone else bought into it like I did lol.

Yeah I kinda bought into it too. I mean avoiding a zombie apocalypse isn't the worst idea in the world.
 
Is it bad that I believed Euron the first time? I mean I knew it was a really weird change of character and it was strange but I took it for granted since this is D&D and I was about to complain massively until the reveal. I hope someone else bought into it like I did lol.

I thought it was a joke but inline with some of the things hastily done in the season.
 
Is it bad that I believed Euron the first time? I mean I knew it was a really weird change of character and it was strange but I took it for granted since this is D&D and I was about to complain massively until the reveal. I hope someone else bought into it like I did lol.

I was thinking that's...anti-climactic...but also incredibly sensible as well.
 
Is it bad that I believed Euron the first time? I mean I knew it was a really weird change of character and it was strange but I took it for granted since this is D&D and I was about to complain massively until the reveal. I hope someone else bought into it like I did lol.
Yeah definitely bought it.
but perhaps he knows they are related...
There is no way he knows. I mean Bran who could see everything from the past just found out.
 
Jon doesn't need sand or tsrgaryan behind his name. He's already king of the north by his own effort. He's also the queen's lover.

My guess it doesn't really matter, not to a person like john.

He'd probably shrug it off and rides into the sunset with danny
 
Jon doesn't need sand or tsrgaryan behind his name. He's already king of the north by his own effort. He's also the queen's lover.

My guess it doesn't really matter, not to a person like john.

He'd probably shrug it off and rides into the sunset with danny

Already did.
 
Fecking hell. That was one amazing episode. I did my best to avoid this thread, except for when I post my review of it, so didn't have too many things spoilt for me. The only thing that was spoiled this episode was probably the Army of the dead crossing eastwatch and the littlefinger bit which was being heavily hinted on by people (Without even putting spoilers ffs). So I got to enjoy a largely spoiler free season and wow, was it amazing.

I used to be the sort of person that didn't mind spoilers, but the world of difference is telling. I'll do whatever the feck it takes to avoid them in the future as well.

What an episode though. It was perfectly paced, something this season was lacking. The chemistry between Dany and Jon/Aegon was terrific with the voice over from Bran telling the story really wonderfully portrayed.

But the star of the show was easily Jaime. What an actor he is. Brilliant. His arc has been near perfect.
 
I said the moment you notice that all Rhaegar's sons (ie 2-infinity) are called Aegon. This show is getting more and more idiotic tbh. Who names his 2 sons with the same name?
Oh the show got even more idiotic than it already was just because a King named his sons Aegon?
 
Ok I'll start us off feel free to add...

Robinamicrowave :lol:
He already is.

Like I can understand you watching a leaked episode before hand but I totally cant understand READING the scripts/leaks/spoilers before hand. Dont you want to see how it unfolds on the big screen instead of imagining how they are going to be shown?
 
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So glad Jaime finally get rid of her, really thought she was going to take him out glad he made it.

The ice dragon :drool:

Anyone have any theories on why Tyrion was being creepy when Jon went to shag Dany?
 
So glad Jaime finally get rid of her, really thought she was going to take him out glad he made it.

The ice dragon :drool:

Anyone have any theories on why Tyrion was being creepy when Jon went to shag Dany?
Besides that though, considering it was contrasted with the Rhaegar/Lyanna wedding, I think there's the chance he's just worried that two major leaders of the war effort falling in love will likely end in doom and disaster if things go south. Naturally an alliance between the pair is beneficial, but now they've developed genuine feelings it could complicate things.
 
I wouldn't read too much into Tyrion staring at the door. With the previous conversations he had with Dany about her succession, it's easily explainable for him to be there and thinking about a possible future with Jon/Dany kids in it. Nothing has ever pointed towards him knowing anything more about Jon (or Dany for that matter), nor is there time enough for him to have switched alliance during his meeting with Cersei.

I'm more intrigued by the Hound's "you know what's coming for you" to the Mountain.
 
He already is.

Like I can understand you watching a leaked episode before hand but I totally cant understand READING the scripts/leaks/spoilers before hand. Dont you want to see how it unfolds on the big screen instead of imagining how they are going to be shown?

Oh yeah I know he is was more a joke post than anything else. I will at some stage go through though and find some to put on ignore as there is no chance I want the final season spoiling.

In fact I'll make a conversation and add Damien so we can get more members. If anyone wants adding to a theory convo just let me know
 
I wouldn't read too much into Tyrion staring at the door. With the previous conversations he had with Dany about her succession, it's easily explainable for him to be there and thinking about a possible future with Jon/Dany kids in it. Nothing has ever pointed towards him knowing anything more about Jon (or Dany for that matter), nor is there time enough for him to have switched alliance during his meeting with Cersei.

I'm more intrigued by the Hound's "you know what's coming for you" to the Mountain.

Surely the hound means himself. The hound vs the mountain will definitely be in one of the episodes next season. They did so much fan servicing this season there is no way they miss out on that one.
 
So how did little finger get found out? Was it Bran?
 
Surely the hound means himself. The hound vs the mountain will definitely be in one of the episodes next season. They did so much fan servicing this season there is no way they miss out on that one.
That's what I'm hoping for, but the Hound got beaten by Brienne earlier on, there's no way he stands a chance against this version of his brother all by himself :(
 
I'm more intrigued by the Hound's "you know what's coming for you" to the Mountain.

Loved that scene, maybe he means they will have one last battle to end it?
 
So how did little finger get found out? Was it Bran?

A mix. Sansa knows he killed Lysa, which was one of the charges he was up for. Bran provided extra evidence of his deception by seeing what happened between him and Ned.