Come on, that's silly. Everyone knows the show has deviated wildly from the books in the last few seasons, there's nothing wrong with not wanting the differences in the book plot and TV plot to not be ruined for you before you read it!
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Both, really. I'm sure she's a lovely lady in real life but I find her portrayal of Daenerys extremely dull and lifeless.
I didn't give any differences though! Like none at all! There are actually cases in this thread where someone has gone "well it's like this in the show, but like this in the books." That's not what I did at all, I just mentioned the point at which the show went past the books.
Whilst not half as evil, Danny is still her father's daughter and very headstrong. I quite enjoy the dynamic that she's difficult to control because it's more realistic.
I don't think Jon or Tiryon are portrayed as morons.
Same reason why benji didn't climb with Jon in the end. The white walkers needed to be slowed down.
They aren't portrayed morons, they are morons because the plans and actions the writers come up with for them are moronic.
Yeah, tbf they do both keep doing incredibly dumb things.
So they are being portrayed as morons?
Jon with the white walker capture idea, yes. If only the writers could just make it more of an obligation to catch a walker, the action could have been forgiven.. E. G. Have bran send them raven to say "white walkers are close to eastgate but not that many so it's doable" and then they make an educated guess in their approach (before the plan going haywire).
Tiryan I still don't get how he's moronic?
Sorry not nitpicking but why do you keep referring to him as Tiryan/Tiryon instead of Tyrion.
Someone's OCD is acting up.Moronic is too strong but Tyrion has been very disappointing as hand.
I can never remember how to spell his name properly
I am being harsh, I am sorry but last time I read your post and the repeated tiryon was pushing my OCD over the edge. Had to tell you when I saw it again.
Well he has the role to beat his home army. He'd be holding his punches with that in mind and that's before you even consider his serious deterrence from violence (his reaction to using wild fire would imply he was always going to be wary of using the dragons for example).
I don't know how anyone can be surprised by the decisions he made as hand of the queen so far. He's a long term thinker, much like Varys and his value will show soon enough.
I don't mind Dany being impulsive and making the wrong decision from time to time, she's still the Mad King's daughter after all.
If Tyrion keeps asking Dany to have children to protect the succession, why doesnt she tell him she cant have any? Like she is infertile?
They've proven a damn sight easier to kill/injure than the humans in the show.
Nope. That's from the books. The bit about Drogo was in the series that about the womb was not. The show has never shown that she is barren just she has said a few times that she can't or wont have anymore children.
Yeah talk about spoilers seems like they gave away the end of the show in the show.
I'm hoping this isn't something you have seen in a leak.
If you mean Jon V the NK then unless you definitely know different I don't think that will take place until near the end of next season.
If you 'know' different then please keep it to yourself.
He didn't ask her to have children. He asked her to make sure she has a successor chosen for her to see her plan through if anything were to happen to her.
So Jon and Dany will have a baby, then Khal Drogo will come back to life? Shit just got real for Jonny Snow.
I was with her on that one as well, what is the point in having a succession plan in place before she has a throne? It felt like a pointless thing to be badgering her about.
But if it isnt a child who can it be? I thought only family lineages work when succession to the throne comes into question. You cant just nominate somebody from the outside can you like they do at the Nights Watch?
Jon has a lot to live up to. Dany has had Drogo and Daario. Some clumsy cunnilingus won't do her.
I guess it depends on what youre expecting. I was just glad I didnt hear her scream noooooooooooooo and start crying.
maybe one of the dragons could be king
You don't send The King in the North, Dany's best military strategist(Ser Jorah) and the leader of the Free Folk on some random capture mission though no matter how important they make capturing the wight. Any one of their deaths would have been catastrophic to the war effort.
Send out a scouting parts to capture one. Manned with people you can afford to lose.
This isnt real life man. You're talking way too much sense for a TV show. That whole episode was done just for drama purposes and judging by the reactions it worked.
That would have been weak in a different way. I think the reaction you alluded to earlier would have worked, if she had just gone into a state of shock. Though no, thinking about it I dont think that would work for her either. I dont know, Im not a grief consultant, I just didnt think pining after the guy she has recently started fancying came across as particularly authentic.
If they had the luxury of time they would have most definately considered that option. But Bran saw how close they were and Jon knew how imminent their arrival is. It just missed the link from Bran to update Jon so the obligation to act hastily but maintain assurance of success becomes more palatable for the viewer.
Apologies if it's already been posted
Anyone seen this? Could just be water I guess..
Anyone seen this? Could just be water I guess..
I didnt read too much into it. It must have just been water.
Yeah you can't nominate someone, but I think her vision is to break the wheel of inequality and violence etc.. Rather than to ensure that the Targaryans rule forever. She believes she's the best person to break the wheel which is why she's on the battle for being Queen, but by way of successors I'm sure she'd want to look for ideals rather than lineage. She can't look at lineage anyway.
TBF, Jon has always been a bit of an idiot and impulsive since s1. Hes never thought but just acted. Thats been consistent throughout the whole show.
Tyrion... would be funny if hes subconsciously sabotaging Dany haha
When you have dragons you can do whatever the feck you please
Yeah. I think given she had another dragon (well 2) to think about, its better it wasnt like that. I think it should have been her getting out of there, then her grieving when it all set in. (but I guess thats what she was doing at the wall).
Tyrion... would be funny if hes subconsciously sabotaging Dany haha
When you have dragons you can do whatever the feck you please
Yeah. I think given she had another dragon (well 2) to think about, its better it wasnt like that. I think it should have been her getting out of there, then her grieving when it all set in. (but I guess thats what she was doing at the wall).
Wait so this whole infertility thing with Dany - Is she just going by the word of that witch? Does she believe that witch word for word? Obviously she wouldnt know for sure until she tried right?
They had Free Folk up at the Wall. Send a Raven asking Tormund to send a patrol out. It would have been a damn sight quicker than them sailing up from Dragonstone.
Well apparently you cant anymore. This episode showed they arent invincible.When you have dragons you can do whatever the feck you please
Jorah was the one initially supposed to go. But him going alone would be suicide. So he needed a group. They established the fact that the free folk wont follow Jorah beyond the wall. Jon was the one who had to lead them also since he was the one who had fought and defeated (sort of) them.
I wonder if Bran is able to worg into the dead dragon that was turned. He has shown that he can worg into humans or animals, but what about dead dragon that was turned.