Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended
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Harry Potter wins this one:
TrueThat would kind of defeat the purpose of having a wall, wouldn't it?
I think you still can. The sea goes beyond the wall and surrounds the land.
is a good job they've been everywhere in Westeros already, this fast travel option is bloody handy.
Davos managed to do Dragonstone/KL/Dragonstone/Eastwatch within about half a fecking episode.
Are you high? Those two shows have minuscule casts compared to the number of characters in 'Game of Thrones'.
No wonder HBO wanted the show wrapped up ASAP when the budget is being squandered so thoughtlessly.
Davos managed to do Dragonstone/KL/Dragonstone/Eastwatch within about half a fecking episode.
He found those signposts innit.
I don't care to be fair, just roll with it at this point. Plus, Onion man is the true MVP of this show anyway!
Doesn't matter if you've got a miniscule cast or not - ultimately a select band of characters are going to be seen as the 'faces' of the show due to their screentime and prominence within the plot, and Daenerys is one of those key characters. I think she's fairly dull and entitled, and I don't rate Clarke as an actress one bit, but it's no surprise she's on mega-money considering the sheer size of the show now.
Damn right.
And David Schwimmer getting paid $24 million other a decade ago is rather a lot more than Emilia Clarke getting paid $12 million
As I've said before, I don't mind fast travel when it's organic - in the very first episode, we see Jaime and Cersei in KL in one scene, and a few minutes later the entire KL party are at Winterfell. But we see the direwolves growing, and it's commented on that a lot of time's passed.
Now characters can dot around a warzone in minutes without consequences on the way. Did no Dothraki notice the leader of the opposition party when he was heading home at all?
But over how much time? Days? Weeks?Davos managed to do Dragonstone/KL/Dragonstone/Eastwatch within about half a fecking episode.
It's all part of the chaos the great game is causing.
You most definitely could before the winter. There was water but now it's all Ice. Just compare the intro of the Wall in say season 1 and season 7.
I'm sure he'd have noticed if Jeremy bloody Corbyn was sauntering around Westeros.As I've said before, I don't mind fast travel when it's organic - in the very first episode, we see Jaime and Cersei in KL in one scene, and a few minutes later the entire KL party are at Winterfell. But we see the direwolves growing, and it's commented on that a lot of time's passed.
Now characters can dot around a warzone in minutes without consequences on the way. Did no Dothraki notice the leader of the opposition party when he was heading home at all?
Years? Centuries?
But whats the point of occupying those castles and wasting men? The places to be right now are Dragonstone and Kings Landing. If KL falls, the rest of the country comes under the rule of Dany no matter which house/castle is occupied.
Now you mention it, Davos is absolutely the Game of Thrones Jeremy Corbyn; old, white-haired, principled and bearded, often seemingly done and out but still a respected force.
Do the dothraki know what any of the opposition leaders look like? No they don't. Christ everyone trying to be so fecking clever but not bothering to actual use their brain. Their is no westeros Facebook or snap chat. It is also in the middle of the battle so guess what most of them will be busy fighting not standing around watching shit.As I've said before, I don't mind fast travel when it's organic - in the very first episode, we see Jaime and Cersei in KL in one scene, and a few minutes later the entire KL party are at Winterfell. But we see the direwolves growing, and it's commented on that a lot of time's passed.
Now characters can dot around a warzone in minutes without consequences on the way. Did no Dothraki notice the leader of the opposition party when he was heading home at all?
I swear to god the people in this thread get dumber every day.
I haven't actually been following this discussion that much but you can differentiate between army's during a battle by looking at their attire.. The cloak and badge gives it away.
Edit : just read this is about jaime. Was he not dotting about with Bronn in his full armour and lannister gear when he came out the sea?
It's less the occupation of the actual castles themselves and more so that absolutely nothing seems to be happening in most of the major regions now. Naturally it's because they don't have the time to cover everywhere in-depth but it still shows. What's happened in Dorne since the Sand Snakes and Ellaria were captured? Are they just all suddenly Lannister? How about the Riverlands? Who's filling the Frey-less vacuum? Even if they don't want to show this onscreen, a mention of a minor house or two perhaps making a move for something wouldn't go amiss. We didn't see Dorne in the early seasons, for example, but knew that they still played a role in some form and had to be taken into account for political decisions etc.
Even if they've got no idea who Jaime is, it's a bit ridiculous that Bronn manages to haul him unnoticed to the other side of the river, or wherever it was they were, especially considering Jaime was weighed down with armour.
For what it's worth I'm still enjoying the show - last night's episode was decent, and the one the week before was superb. But the extra-speedy travel thing does feel a bit jarring considering it's a major change from early seasons.
This is actually a good point.
Pretty sure in real wars people didn't just abandon all the major castles that came free as doing so made it more difficult to properly control the surrounding land? Especially given a lot of castles tend to naturally be in strategically important locations? I mean I could imagine leaving one or two behind for tactical reasons but in this case we're talking about a lot of the country’s major seats of power.
Creating power vaccums like that will inevitably see *someone* try to fill the void. If you're trying to take over and rule the land it would make sense to place someone in charge, I'd have thought.
There is no one left to take over. Cersei doesnt have the numbers to reach out to those places. Stannis isnt alive. The Starks arent going to come down south. Half the houses are gone. There is 1 Tully, no Tyrells, no Freys, few Greyjoys who are all useless. The main Dornish ladies are about to die. There is no use in Dany placing her men in each of these places when she might need them if all hell breaks loose. Sure she has her dragons but you still need an army to take the attention away from the dragons.
These regions all have lots of minor houses though - ideally they should be trying to fill power vacuums in the midst of the war. It doesn't even need a ton of time dedicated to it; just even a vague mention that House A in the Riverlands or House B in the Reach has mounted an assault on a certain castle, or have sided with Daenerys/Cersei would help to add a bit more intrigue. I get that most houses have been decimated in the war, but it's been implied that the Westerosi regions are massive, and it's surely not the case that they've turned into an uninhabited space of land.
Each region has loads and loads of houses under the main ones we know though. It would be odd if none of them thought to fill the power vaccum.
In real life terms Dany should come back from her conquest of Kings Landing to find other lords have since seized power in the lands she vacated, which is presumably why real life armies didn't abandon everywhere they took over either (despite also potentially also needing that extra manpower).
The whole plot of capturing a walker is stupid really but makes the next episode great viewing.
This is all setup for Cersei to conspire her way to victory. Which wold be pretty shit way to end things.
This is all setup for Cersei to conspire her way to victory. Which wold be pretty shit way to end things.
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Erm if KL falls, then its game over. Cersei is the only one resisting Dany. Greyjoys wont stand a chance against Dothraki on land. No other "lord" of these minor houses will have the balls to stand up to Dany and her dragons.
Hmm..Means that they could still walk their way around the wall simply by taking sea ice surface route?
The entire north is also resisting Dany and it's not like everyone else has pledged fealty to her either.
Right now Cersei is one of the only major powers opposing her but there's no guarantee that would remain the case. The areas that have lost the major houses aren't going to remain leaderless. New houses would fill that power vaccum and could potentially prove to be near as difficult to dislodge as the older ones were.
If you've seen the history and lore things that come with the DVDs:
It's mentioned that Dorne managed to resist being taken over by the Targaryens when they first invaded, despite them having three dragons and taking over all the other kingdoms. Dany is currently in a much less powerful position than that so there's no reason to think a total lack of resistance is guaranteed, especially if she leaves huge areas to their own devices while she focuses solely on KL.
Harry Potter wins this one:
Except you know that they were two separate characters right? That first guy played Crabbe but was booted off the films for some Drugs incident at a comic con event or something? The other guy plays Blaise Zabini, another of Dracoy's mates...
Time for Benjen Stark to make an appearance perhaps? Can't see this mission going according to plan anyway.
Or something more outlandish, Drogon going rogue and going off on one of his joyrides to save Jon? Similar to how he saved Danaerys previously from the Sons of the Harpy?
Or something more outlandish, Drogon going rogue and going off on one of his joyrides to save Jon? Similar to how he saved Danaerys previously from the Sons of the Harpy?
Amidst all the ridiculousness of that episode, did Jon remember to bring some dragonglass weapons with him? Or is the mining plan dead?
Hope Jon and Beric have a conversation on the whole coming back from the dead thing.
Hope Jon and Beric have a conversation on the whole coming back from the dead thing.
Since Tyrion's informed Jaime, who informed Cersei, of the WW threat...are we now in a position where pretty much everyone is aware of the White Walkers, even if not everyone buys into it?
Hes out there and im sure he will return to help Jon. I can see Jon being overwhelmed and Benjen making a rescue. but I also see the Brotherhood dying off. I also see the Hound, Gendry, Jorah and Jon surviving.