Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

Snowjoe said:
I thought that, her siblings come home with all these new talents and she's just been passed around and used.
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I thought the same thing. Bran's an omniscient vegetable, Arya's a badass mass murderer, Jon's an undead bastard King and she's a ginger victim.
P-Nut0712 said:
Tyrone only has a tiny chance of saving Bronn if the dragon isn't seriously hurt. No way Dany let's him live if that arrow was laced with poison.
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Tyrone :lol:
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Also, Rains of Castamere might be my most favourite bit of music on a tv show ever. I often listen to it drunk and cry.
 
Welsh Wonder said:
I thought the same thing. Bran's an omniscient vegetable, Arya's a badass mass murderer, Jon's an undead bastard King and she's a ginger victim.

Tyrone :lol:
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Also, Rains of Castamere might be my most favourite bit of music on a tv show ever. I often listen to it drunk and cry.
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Fecking autocorrect
 
Bronn is a useful ally to have if Tyrion can lure him back to his side, even though he seems loyal to more than Jaime's gold at the moment. The guy shifts the balance every time he gets involved. He saved Tyrion's arse at the Eyrie in the trial of combat, he fired the arrow that killed thousands at Blackwater Bay and saved Jaime during their trip to Dorne. Now he's managed to wound a dragon as well. I'd be willing to bet on whichever team he plays for.
 
Welsh Wonder said:
I thought the same thing. Bran's an omniscient vegetable, Arya's a badass mass murderer, Jon's an undead bastard King and she's a ginger victim.
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:lol:

Fit though, gutted she wasn't there when I met Maisie Williams on the lash.
 
God, episode 4 was amazing, i have already watched this episode 4 times, that fighting scene with the Dokhraki army and Dragon destroying lannister army, i can watch it everyday till my death tbh. It really is the best show on tv by far, but i have some quick questions?

1) Was this all of Lannister army?
2) I don't think anybody believes Jamie or Bron is dead, what gain could be achieved in keeping them hostage? Why not kill them and send Cercei a message?
3) What if the other two dragons are being used to destroy Euron and his ships simultaneously? how possible is that theory?
4) In the next episode preview Dany asks commoners to bend the knee are they Lannisters hostages?
5) why was john know not there with Tryian and other Dothraki Lords?

If any kind person can answer some of these that would be great thanks in advance.
 
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It was a good fight scene, but they've written themselves in to such a hole with these dragons. I spent half the time today going 'why is she bothering to risk the Dothraki when she can burn them all from above?'

Which means that they'll have to kill the dragons to make any notion that Dany isn't going to win possible, but how do you do that after you've spent nearly a decade teasing them without making it feel cheap?
 
Fahad Jawaid said:
God, episode 4 was amazing, i have already watched this episode 4 times, that fighting scene with the Dokhraki army and Dragon destroying lannister army, i can watch it everyday till my death tbh. It really is the best show on tv by far, but i have some quick questions?

1) Was this all of Lannister army?
2) I don't think anybody believes Jamie or Bron is dead, what gain could be achieved in keeping them hostage? Why not kill them and send Cercei a message?
3) What if the other two dragons are being used to destroy Euron and his ships simultaneously? how possible is that theory?
4) In the next episode preview Dany asks commoners to bend the knee are they Lannisters hostages?
5) why was john know not there with Tryian and other Dothraki Lords?

If any kind person can answer some of these that would be great thanks in advance.
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1. No some escorted the gold inside
2. Hostages are worth more alive than dead
3. Possible but no one to control them with Dany here.
4. Spoiler that shit
5. Mining dragon glass
 
Welsh Wonder said:
I thought the same thing. Bran's an omniscient vegetable, Arya's a badass mass murderer, Jon's an undead bastard King and she's a ginger victim.
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I reckon Jon's gonna die and be resurrected one more time. But next time, he'll come back a hollow shell of the person he once was. By that point, Sansa will still have three siblings, but none of them will really be 'Starks' anymore. In turn, she'll go a bit loopy and psychopathic over the whole thing.
 
Welsh Wonder said:
Very fit indeed. When'd you meet her? Do you remember enough to tell us what happened? :D
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Yeah it was at Love Saves the Day in Bristol. We were looking for our mate who looks weirdly like her, and one of my drunk mates mistook Maisie for her. Then we realised who it was and chatted to her until we found our actual mate to make them have a photo together
 
NinjaFletch said:
It was a good fight scene, but they've written themselves in to such a hole with these dragons. I spent half the time today going 'why is she bothering to risk the Dothraki when she can burn them all from above?'

Which means that they'll have to kill the dragons to make any notion that Dany isn't going to win possible, but how do you do that after you've spent nearly a decade teasing them without making it feel cheap?
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One of my predictions for this season was the most dramatic death wouldn't be one of the main characters...it'd be all 3 dragons instead.

Although, Littlefinger...well...he gonna get cut...
 
NinjaFletch said:
It was a good fight scene, but they've written themselves in to such a hole with these dragons. I spent half the time today going 'why is she bothering to risk the Dothraki when she can burn them all from above?'

Which means that they'll have to kill the dragons to make any notion that Dany isn't going to win possible, but how do you do that after you've spent nearly a decade teasing them without making it feel cheap?
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The Dragons were always going to have some counter to them, otherwise right from the beginning it was just a matter of them getting big enough for Dany to win.

I would guess unleashing the Dothraki serves a couple of purposes. 1) Gives them something to do. Can't imagine them being thrilled milling about on Dragonstone. So letting them out to do what they do best, helps keep their moral up. 2) Got all them pretty little soldiers to line up nice and neat for the dragon to trash them. 3) Any survivors will tell the tale of twin terrors....the Dothraki and the Dragon. So a good bit of propaganda.
 
NinjaFletch said:
It was a good fight scene, but they've written themselves in to such a hole with these dragons. I spent half the time today going 'why is she bothering to risk the Dothraki when she can burn them all from above?'

Which means that they'll have to kill the dragons to make any notion that Dany isn't going to win possible, but how do you do that after you've spent nearly a decade teasing them without making it feel cheap?
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I think the Dragons are needed for the battle between Fire and Ice in the last season when they face off against The Night's King. If there is no dragons where is the fire coming from?
 
Wonder how much of the budget having the dragons roast the Lannister army ate up? Read somewhere it's the most expensive episode of the season.
 
Organic Potatoes said:
If you turn your back on Ghengis Khan-level cavalry you're gonna have a bad time.
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If infantry turns it's back on any cavalry it's doomed. Infantry is not going to out run cavalry especially not while wearing metal armour.

I'm Surprised that a military genius would not have 'chevaux de frise' though.

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Liver_bird said:
Wonder how much of the budget having the dragons roast the Lannister army ate up? Read somewhere it's the most expensive episode of the season.
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It's a good watch. It doesn't say how much it cost but it does explain how much effort they put in to it.
 
Fully Fledged said:
If infantry turns it's back on any cavalry it's doomed. Infantry is not going to out run cavalry especially not while wearing metal armour.

I'm Surprised that a military genius would not have 'chevaux de frise' though.

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More of a defensive weapon really isn't it, for prepared defensive positions? Not something they would have along to deploy easily in the case of sudden attack.
 
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This thread is quite difficult to moderate, due to scripts leak it's hard to differentiate between the spoilers written by someone who has read leaks or the just genuine speculation.
 
KM said:
Has he spoiled anything? Can't really threadban posters for posting long paragraphs about coin minting.
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These leaks must make your job a hundred times harder :lol:

The book thread looks like a mess. Title says aired episodes only but he's talking about the leaks.
 
JustAFan said:
More of a defensive weapon really isn't it? Not something they would have along to deploy easily in the case of sudden attack.
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They were portable and when you know that your enemy have a massive horde of madmen on horses it might be worth bringing them along.

3 Big battles now in Game of Thrones have been won by the side with the best cavalry.

The Battle of Castle Black

The Battle of the Bastards

The Loot Train.

If I was a military genius I would look at a way to circumvent this advantage.
 
KM said:
This thread is quite difficult to moderate, due to scripts leak it's hard to differentiate between the spoilers written by someone who has read leaks or the just genuine speculation.
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Unless you plan to ban speculation altogether, there's not much that can be done about it. With the correct wording anyone can pass off a spoiler as genuine speculation.

It's probably best to re-iterate that all speculation (IE what hasn't been shown) goes in spoilers, and also that the scripts have indeed been leaked so those who view spoilers should be aware they run the risks of reading spoilers.
 
kps88 said:
These leaks must make your job a hundred times harder :lol:

The book thread looks like a mess. Title says aired episodes only but he's talking about the leaks.
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I've had two things spoiled due to the moderation of this thread :(

I think @jojojo has handled with him in the book thread.
 
AXVnee7 said:
Unless you plan to ban speculation altogether, there's not much that can be done about it. With the correct wording anyone can pass off a spoiler as genuine speculation.

It's probably best to re-iterate that all speculation (IE what hasn't been shown) goes in spoilers, and also that the scripts have indeed been leaked so those who view spoilers should be aware they run the risks of reading spoilers.
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True, we can't ban speculation but yeah I'm avoiding all the spoilers in this thread right now. Also just to reiterate Please give titles to your spoilers.
 
Limiting my question only to those who have not researched leaks or read the books:

How much damage do you reckon was done in the last episode? Aside from the gold how much of the lannisters do you reckon were wiped there? Tyrell at the end of episode 3 called it the "real army". With all of them gone there's literally just Euron left?
 
VP89 said:
Limiting my question only to those who have not researched leaks or read the books:

How much damage do you reckon was done in the last episode? Aside from the gold how much of the lannisters do you reckon were wiped there? Tyrell at the end of episode 3 called it the "real army". With all of them gone there's literally just Euron left?
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Well it wasnt their entire Lannister army because they will have a few 1000 men at KL. Then they have the Greyjoy fleet. Then there is talk of Cersei buying herself a new army through the Iron Bank and now with the gold in her possession, that is looking more and more likely.
 
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Fully Fledged said:
They were portable and when you know that your enemy have a massive horde of madmen on horses it might be worth bringing them along.

3 Big battles now in Game of Thrones have been won by the side with the best cavalry.

The Battle of Castle Black

The Battle of the Bastards

The Loot Train.

If I was a military genius I would look at a way to circumvent this advantage.
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Oh you can load them onto wagons, the key will be having those wagons handy and then having enough time to unload them all, get them put in place and establish your defensive line behind them all before this on-rushing cavalry reaches your line. They made the point that the wagon train was spread out over many miles. They made the point their troops were also spread out. So yeah they are nice things to have, but the reality is they are best used in a prepared defensive position where you have had time to establish them before the enemy ever gets near you.

Surprise attacks are surprising.

I mean if it really was a simple as every army carry these around and then they would be invincible from cavalry attacks, then basically cavalry would have been useless for a few centuries now.
 
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VP89 said:
Limiting my question only to those who have not researched leaks or read the books:

How much damage do you reckon was done in the last episode? Aside from the gold how much of the lannisters do you reckon were wiped there? Tyrell at the end of episode 3 called it the "real army". With all of them gone there's literally just Euron left?
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Randyl Tarly says to Jaime(just before the attack) 'all the gold has made it into Kings Landing'.

Now I doubt that they allowed that much money to travel trough the streets of Kings Landing without a sizeable escort. That leads me to think that a large portion of the army is already in the Capital.

It does seem weird though that they didn't send someone reliable to lead the escort.
 
Fully Fledged said:
Randyl Tarly says to Jaime(just before the attack) 'all the gold has made it into Kings Landing'.

Now I doubt that they allowed that much money to travel trough the streets of Kings Landing without a sizeable escort. That leads me to think that a large portion of the army is already in the Capital.

It does seem weird though that they didn't send someone reliable to lead the escort.
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At the same time Jamie refers to the soldiers as 'his army' which suggests a fair sized portion of it was present.
 
Fully Fledged said:
Randyl Tarly says to Jaime(just before the attack) 'all the gold has made it into Kings Landing'.

Now I doubt that they allowed that much money to travel trough the streets of Kings Landing without a sizeable escort. That leads me to think that a large portion of the army is already in the Capital.

It does seem weird though that they didn't send someone reliable to lead the escort.
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I would guess that someone reliable was in command of the gold escort, but not necessarily someone we know in the series. Let's face it the armies are large and not every sub-unit commander is going to be a major character in the show or even a minor character.
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Sorry if this has been answered, but how did the Dothraki get from Dragonstone to Highgarden in a day or two with no ships?
 
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