Not sure if spoiler worthy but
next episode has the same director
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How do you think he should die?
I think it works fine if Arya finishes LF. My view of LF is that he is a puppet master when all the big names were vying for power, he didn't pose a threat and manipulated his way. He hasn't had to do much dirty work and went under the radar. Now it's a different game, everyone is aware of his mind games, he is losing his influence.
He could of course manage to escape and pulls off a masterful move but I feel the whole perception of him being "2 steps ahead of the audience" may wear thin now everyone knows his secrets.
If he was going to Kings Landing think she would have taken all 3. But she knew the army at Highgarden wasnt gonna be huge, in the sense that her army could take out theirs and she just wanted to give a preview of what her dragon could do. The good thing now she knows they have a bow/arrow capable of killing the dragon, so she needs to come up with a plan to counter that.
Yeah please do this I'll be gutted if the rest of this season gets spoiled
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Didn't this get roasted by the dragon? It seemed like at the initial unveiling in Kings landing that they had been working on it for a long while.
I thought that, her siblings come home with all these new talents and she's just been passed around and used.
I feel this could be done better. Like I said in my previous post, one of the stark girls killing makes the most sense and that's how it should be but not like this where he is just waiting to be killed.
It's like everyone knows he is going to be killed but himself and that has never been how little finger works. What's the reason he is in North? To be killed? Well that is a very weak way of a major character getting killed.
Yeah she will do something stupid that will grind my gears.
He is there because he wants Sansa to rule and be part of that. Things were going well for him when Jon left but now Arya and Bran have arrived. Bran basically fecks up every plan LF has. He can't lie his way out of this one and I think it's quite fitting.
I think perhaps the biggest difference is that the Starks are loyal to each other and aren't consumed by their own ambitions. In King's Landing everyone was only looking out for himself, willing to betray and backstab anyone to advance themselves, so it was relatively easy to play them against each other, but in Winterfell that doesn't work at all, because the people he's trying to manipulate are actually honest with each other. In his mind he probably expected Sansa to try to make her control over the north permanent in Jon's absence.
The thing about this also is that the big players (Robert, the Lannisters, Cat and Ned) all viewed him as not a threat. Some guy who was from a minor family, was good with accounting, ran some whore houses, but over all they underestimated him, even ignoring what should have been warning signs.
He has admitted too much to Sansa. Arya knows stuff from her times at KL. Bran knows things because he is the 3-eyed Raven. Jon would rather kill him I think. So his ability to fool the current bunch of Starks is not what it was with their parents or in one case his supposed parent.
LF also must be arrogant thinking he can still play the kids of each other and still be a puppet master. Added to that, he 'kinda' has control over Vale (or thinks he does cos of his relationship with Robin), he probably feels safest in Winterfell right now.
I do think the dagger ends up back in LF possession (but not the way he would like haha).
Given the time passing, wouldnt be surprised if once they mastered that initial one, they ended up with making many more for KL.
It does seem that its only way of being useful is being a headshot.
I do think the dagger ends up back in LF possession (but not the way he would like haha).
Given the time passing, wouldnt be surprised if once they mastered that initial one, they ended up with making many more for KL.
It does seem that its only way of being useful is being a headshot.
I was actually saying that I didn't really care that none of Bronn, Jaime, Randal or Dickon died because the scene was so good.
Sometimes if a scene is well done you may be willing to suspend your disbelief because you get caught up in the moment and appreciate the art that went into making it.
I don't think so. Jealous of:
Bran (Hi sis, long time no see - remember that one time you got raped)? He's a cripple, both emotionally and physically. He doesn't really have a personality anymore.
Jon Snow? If she was we would've seen it by now. There were plenty of opportunities for her to make a move.
Arya? When did Sansa ever seem interested in being a midget ninja? I think, like Littelfinger or Cersei, she sees herself above the actual fighting and more as a schemer. A "figher" is a piece and not a player in the game.
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If all 3 had attacked that scorpion then there was no way Bronn was surviving to save Jaime. If Bronn had died it would have ruined the epic scene at the end.
could see Sansa being a bit upset that Arya got what she always wanted, to be a great fighter, while Sansa, never quiet became the princess/queen she had hoped. yeah she is the Lady of Winterfell, but not quite what she really hoped for.
Though overall I think she is just more than a bit bothered by Arya's new skills and her casual manner about killing people, (with perhaps being slightly worried she herself might be on the list for her part in getting Ned killed?)
They have only one crossbow? If thats the case they are well and truly fecked.
And smashed by its tail for good measure. Dragon was like, 'Yah, feck you!' (Ozzyman voice)
Amazing battle sequence and superbly shot. Despite some of the criticism that is sometimes levelled at this show, there's no doubt in my mind that it's the best thing on TV at the moment. The scale of it is incredible, and when it comes to these battle sequences it easily rivals the biggest Hollywood blockbusters and often times surpasses them. Incredible show.
I will admit that since they've overtaken the books there has, undoubtedly, been a change in the show. It's not as subtle as it once was, the dialogue is too on the nose sometimes where the characters will often explain exactly what they're thinking. It's a visual medium, let the camera do the work, the audience is smart and they've been with you this long; they'll put it together by themselves. Also, if the show was still going off the George RR Martin books, i think Jamie would have been toasted to a crisp here. But, as i said, the show is still exceptional.
And in terms of the crossbow, i would be very surprised if that was the only one. That would show an incredible lack of foresight.
I will admit that since they've overtaken the books there has, undoubtedly, been a change in the show. It's not as subtle as it once was, the dialogue is too on the nose sometimes where the characters will often explain exactly what they're thinking. It's a visual medium, let the camera do the work, the audience is smart and they've been with you this long; they'll put it together by themselves. Also, if the show was still going off the George RR Martin books, i think Jamie would have been toasted to a crisp here. But, as i said, the show is still exceptional.
And in terms of the crossbow, i would be very surprised if that was the only one. That would show an incredible lack of foresight.
Not so sure about this of the two threads here are anything to go by.
Haha! Point taken.
In all seriousness though, i do think they should tone it down a bit. The audience has got you this far, just trust them.
I'm sure they could put together another few. Unless they've tipped that spear with poison, then all they can divulge from that weapon is it can hurt a dragon. They should have several of them and be launching the spears from every angle.
Can't ever forgive the Lannisters for pushing Bran out that window.
Does that even really matter anymore? Dany just crippled their army, took out their food supply and still has the bigger army. In theory she should be able to starve them out without ever exposing her Dragons. Varys probably also knows a ton of secret passages so we might see the unsullied circumwent city wall by going through the sewers - for once in the show.
I wonder what they will come up with to give the Lannisters a fighting chance. Jaime being invincible certainly helps, but I don't think that will be enough.
Han't the Iron Bank agreed to buy them an army? Plus they still have Euron's fleet and whatever soldiers were not in this battle.
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Well from her point of view, that's an opportunity missed. (Of course this can be negated by future events depending on what happens next).
He might still die. Pretty sure him and Jaime are gonna be captured from that river by the looks of it. Bronn has no leverage nor does Dany need him. Jaime will be useful.
Tyrion might be willing to spare Bronn.
Check this shit out. Patterns in the cave.
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Great episode, glad Bron and Drogon are okay. I've got a bad feeling the arrow will have been laced with poison though...
Can't wait for the next episode
Can't wait for the next episode
Tyrone only has a tiny chance of saving Bronn if the dragon isn't seriously hurt. No way Dany let's him live if that arrow was laced with poison.
This. Bron has done nothing major to Dany so I doubt she would refuse Tyrion to spare Bron.
A Friend of mine just told me episode 5 is also leaked and available, can somebody kindly confirm?
I like them swirls.
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