Yeah, dont need to see travel in real time like its an episode of 24. Varys, etc jumping around in the final episode or two of the last season was much better. It needed that bit of skip to advance what is coming. Glad they did it that way. And tbh, they havent established length of travel that much in the shows anyway :P
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That was Daenerys on Dragonstone in the trailer, right? Looks like she'll conquer that first then.
Finally the Starks reunited.. at least what's left of them. 
...and then some of them probably will die.. or all.
...and then some of them probably will die.. or all.
I don't know about this. I agree with the general sentiment that we don't need the long drawn-out travel sequences we used to in the show, but I'm 100% against characters implausibly jumping round the map, especially if it's within a single episode. Varys being with Dany at the end of last season despite being in Dorne in the same episode completely takes me out of that scene every time I watch it; completely ruined that moment for me.
It's leaked? I know last year majority of the episodes were leaked in detail by a poster on reddit. Has it happened this year too?
Just because someone is in 2 places in the same episode doesn't really say much. GOT doesn't necessarily move on the same timeline for all stories.
It happened in October.
The episodes themselves haven't leaked but several months back almost the entire plot for this season was leaked.
They could just skip through Dany's storyline completely and it'd be OK with me.
You do know you'd be missing one of the main protagonists and character development arcs of the whole show right? And of the overall context of the end game .
And in addition you wouldn't get to stare at her..
feck the haters. Danys storyline is great, ok at times it might have dragged (no pun intended) on a bit during Season 2 and Season 5, but most of the storylines have had issues with pacing now and then.
Agreed. Plus, again. This storyline has Emilia Clarke in it..
As far as Dany's story line goes, last season was fecking ace
I know everyone has a right to an opinion, but if you honestly think this then maybe the show is not for you. Yes Thrones is about war and attempts to seize power and that's thrilling to watch, but it's also about the horrors war brings with it and the difficultly holding power once you get it, which is a deep theme in Dany's story. You can't just take the action and ignore the complexity that follows; if you do you're missing the whole point of the show.
Danny's storyline is boring indeed at times, as it has little to do with the main story so far and is all about her growing up. It will obviously be necessary for the end game though. The whole Mereen knot in the books was sickening and is a large reason why George is stuck finishing them imho. Its like he got to caught up writing about Danny and wrote himself into a write mess (as alot of fantasy writers do..). The way the show handled it was equally poor but at least they got it done in less time.
Timelines in the show are all over the place but thats understandable. Sometimes months pass between scenes, and not every arc is running on the same timeline at the same time. For all we know when Danny arrives at the Stormlands in the show, it might only be moments are Stannis defeat to Ramsey.
Anybody else get a weird feeling about the reunited Starks, all those happy family photo's doing the rounds etc... I have a bad feeling about it.
Timelines in the show are all over the place but thats understandable. Sometimes months pass between scenes, and not every arc is running on the same timeline at the same time. For all we know when Danny arrives at the Stormlands in the show, it might only be moments are Stannis defeat to Ramsey.
Anybody else get a weird feeling about the reunited Starks, all those happy family photo's doing the rounds etc... I have a bad feeling about it.
No book talk pls
Nah that's a prevalent theme in almost every subplot on the show.
My problem with Dany's parts are as follows:
- They stretched out her plot from the books due to timing issues resulting in a snail paced snooze fest after she arrives in Mereen.
- All of that free screen time would be great for some character development right? no. She's the same person in season 6 as she was at the end of season 1. Thank god for Varys and Tyrion to save the day.
- Her plot armour made everything happening in her story very predictable and through the motions, it was obvious as soon as she hatched the dragon eggs where the story would go.
- Her speeches started out as empowering and ended up making me want to slice my nipples off with a cheese grater.
- PLOT ARMOUR! Kalasar hates me? thank god that they just left without killing me. surrounded by assassins, thank god for my dragon that's hasn't been seen since the last time i needed him.
- Emilia Clark's acting and planks of wood have a lot in common. Maybe that's unfair but compared to Maisy Williams, Kit Harrington, Peter Dinklage etc.. i have a problem feeling immersed when she's on screen.
- Her pouty smug face.
- Gather army, lose army, gather army, lose army, stroke dragon, repeat...........
Each to their own i guess.
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Anyone else expect a Dany heel turn? She seize power and then morph into her oul lad.
The Mad Queen.
The Mad Queen.
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Odd.
- Aside from being really hot, I think Clarke's actually a pretty good actress.
- I really don't see how you think Dany is the same character in season 1/2 and season 6. I'd argue her character has really developed with each event that's happened - regardless if you see them as repetitive, she's learned how hard it is to rule and remain in power, and that Dragons can only get her so far. Her character has dramatically changed.
- I don't think she will go full blown mad queen, they've mentioned it too many times for her to actually go down that route. The mad queen mould is for Cersei.
- The unspoken word on Game Of Thrones, and the openness of that to interpretation (and discussion) is part of why I like it. Does Dany have a connection with Drogon? If he keeps appearing when he's needed? When Dany closes her eyes in the fighting pit, was she summoning him, or closing her eyes and resigning herself that it was the end.
Absolutely
she's a pretty shit actress, by all accounts.
Don't know if she's shit but she's the weakest main character on the show in terms of acting ability.
Bare your bewbs and that's easily remedied.
Sad thing is that she got so famous as the show went on that she could veto the producers asking her to get her baps out.
Remember reading an article about it where she criticised the amount of female nudity in the show.
But she went nude again last season?
Although didnt she get it out last season? Or she said she will only get it out if it makes sense.
Anyway, parts of her story have indeed been boring. But other parts have been great.
Sandsnakes defo mean shes not the worst part of anything. (Although the one sandsnake that appears in Iron Fist shows it might just be the writing). And shitty direction for a fight scene they had. lol
Yes... kinda. I dont expect her to be the super hero saviour cos GoT certainly hasnt worked that way. Everybody has a bit of evil in them. Its not black and white as weve seen. Closest to full on good guy (remaining) is probably John Snow and even hes had some dark moments. I expect Dany to do something that is seen as evil to some though.
Anyway, parts of her story have indeed been boring. But other parts have been great.
Sandsnakes defo mean shes not the worst part of anything. (Although the one sandsnake that appears in Iron Fist shows it might just be the writing). And shitty direction for a fight scene they had. lol
Yes... kinda. I dont expect her to be the super hero saviour cos GoT certainly hasnt worked that way. Everybody has a bit of evil in them. Its not black and white as weve seen. Closest to full on good guy (remaining) is probably John Snow and even hes had some dark moments. I expect Dany to do something that is seen as evil to some though.
Clark was great as the timid learning to be my own person danaerys.
By now, she is supposed to be charismatic and assertive and she is not really pulling it off.
By now, she is supposed to be charismatic and assertive and she is not really pulling it off.
It's a combination of her cringy accent when she's belting out a speech in one of those languages and that stupid smug/evil look she has on her face when she tells her dragons to run amok.
Yes there's a fairly reputable leaked season 7 synopsis out there. There's a few plot points that seem a bit dubious but all the screenshots of the trailers seem to lend credence to the majority of it. FWIW, I think it is accurate and can't wait to see it on screen.
I hope so, they've hinted at it a couple of times with her character and now that "you know who" and "you also know who" have buggered off I wonder who is going to keep her grounded. I wouldn't be surprised if she loses it when she gets frustrated over how the people of Westeros don't just bow down to her.
Only 14 episodes left, and it looks like everything is finally coming to a head as far as all the factions are concerned. We all know what's gonna happen though, don't we? Not sure how we get there, but...
it's painfully obvious to me that the show will end with Jon Snow sitting on the throne as the rightful King of Westeros.
Re-read what you've just spoilered, remember that this is George R R Martin that we're talking about, cry, and then change what you wrote.
Unsure by what you mean. Are you saying that Martin is too unpredictable to come up with such a predictable ending? For that matter, is he even the one calling the shots as how the story ends for the tv show? FYI, never read the books and don't know much about the fat man who wrote the books.
I'm saying that he's an utter bastard when it comes to ruining our hopes and dreams. You might well be right about how it ends but a part of me believes that the ending will just be a black screen that says "...and then everyone died the end lol".
The author doesn't appear to be a big fan of happy endings. He's far happier butchering and maiming people.
Or worse.. bran wakes up from his fall and it was all a dream
I can see Jon being offered it, but walking away due to the destruction that will happen. And it will be cos of Dany rather than the White walkers. Possibly.
I see your point, but I guess I enjoy how a character gets somewhere as much as I enjoy seeing where they end up. I'll grant you the plot armour thing is an issue, but it's unavoidable for some characters (see Tyrion) and given how ruthless Thrones is they need to have some characters be consistently important. I actually disagree about them stretching out her book arc (I'm assuming if you're saying this you have read them); if anything I'd say they massively streamlined it. Without going into detail as this is not the book thread, her ADWD arc is so full of intricacies and subplots it would have been impossible to translate onto screen, and a lot of excess was cut as a result. Was the end product great? I suppose you could argue her season 5 was weak, although it was far better than other aspects of that season, but I thought her season 4 was excellent, and did a great job of showing how much more complicated holding power is than winning it.
I take issue with your argument that she hasn't changed though. Changes have been subtle, certainly, but I don't think she sees the world in the black and white in season 5 and 6 that she would have in say, season 2. Season 7 might be the best discriminator on this one, so we won't know for sure until it airs, but I think a season 1 or 2 Dany coming to Westeros would have approached things very differently than the Dany we now have in the show. As you say though, it's all opinion, and I certainly get your complaints. I just often feel people criticise Dany's seasons 4 & 5 very quickly on the basis that "it dragged on and not much happened" when it is in fact some of the most in-depth interrogation of the meaning of power and leadership we've got in the show.
Could you imagine the backlash!?!