I see the dragons being the obvious answer for dealing with the white walkers. Fire vs ice and shit. Jon Snow not only has claim to the throne by birthright (he'd supersede his aunt by hierarchy); but also throughout the entire run, he's been the only main character able to maintain his or her moral compass all while being in the "bastard" and odd man out roles. While most of the characters on the show have been portrayed in various shades of grey, Jon Snow has always been the good guy, the underdog. If this was any other show, I'd say the ending is fairly predictable. One thing I don't see happening is Jon and Dany fighting it out. Much more likely to see them join forces at some point.
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The ending has got to be everyone dying except the most insignificant cockroach, perhaps some unnamed Frey and it shows how dynasties die and are born again. He gets to write the history of it all.
The most pointless arc in the whole series was definitely the Sam and Gilly storyline. My god it was so boring and awful..
Everyone uniting to beat the whites, only for Cersei to then double cross them and end up on the throne would be 
Also not a fan of Dany's storyline tbf, but I think that's only because we've been teased so much. Every single season we're like "OMFG DRAGONS!!!" only to be kept hanging on and on for when they're finally released. Every single possible other storyline looks boring when there could be dragons tearing it up ffs.
Was Bran the most pointless character in anything ever? I guess he helped initiate the war for Winterfell, but still.
Also, the new season needs more Podrick. Preferably with Tyrion and Bronn.
Also, the new season needs more Podrick. Preferably with Tyrion and Bronn.
rickon was more pointless than Bran tbh.
What do you mean 'was' ?
Cheap to make though
I bet sam and gilly cost alot less per showing than say biehn (hence they kill him first)
Sam and Gilly have been progressively annoying and dull.
Well feck me sideways with a rusty scythe...Wait until you get to "The Rains of Castamere" episode.
Wasn't expecting that ending...
Wow, I didn't get what you meant by that @CassiusClaymore , but then I realised I meant Rickon not Bran. That's how irrelevant he was!
Jon has no claim to the throne. First of all he's a bastard, and bastards have no right to inherit. Secondly he's not even an acknowledged bastard of Rhaegar, everybody thinks he's Ned's bastard. Thirdly the Targaryens were deposed so the fact that he has Targ blood is irrelevant since none of them are in line to the throne any more. Finally, he swore his life to the Night's Watch, and to the vast majority of the Kingdom he would appear to have abandoned the Watch and broken his oath, which by rights should mean his execution. If, and it's a big if, Jon takes the Iron Throne by the end of series it would be because he led the army which destroyed the WW and not because it's his birthright.
Now go check out "Red Wedding reactions" on youtube.
Nailed on she will die in the last season in part due to this. Almost as nailed on as The Wall falling will be the cliffhanger (pun intended) of the last episode in this season.
Just my speculation. None of this is based on leaks. I know nothing.
Just my speculation. None of this is based on leaks. I know nothing.
Youre basically Jon Snow.
but yeah, I predict these two to happen. And the wall will be the fault of Bran.
Though I still think the WW / Children had to have helped somehow get that wall there in the first place.
but yeah, I predict these two to happen. And the wall will be the fault of Bran.
Though I still think the WW / Children had to have helped somehow get that wall there in the first place.
All I got from watching a few of those is that people have shit houses, with shit decor...
If they'd filmed me, it'd just be me wanking, eating sweets and picking my nose...
Just starting watching this again in prep for new season.
"Little Finger would see the realm burn if he could be king of the ashes."
"Little Finger would see the realm burn if he could be king of the ashes."
And drinking beer and farting.
Everyone uniting to beat the whites, only for Cersei to then double cross them and end up on the throne would be
Thought that myself with Jaime (king slayer) killing the night king.
I'm glad this is coming to an end. Although the last episode of last season was awesome, the overall quality has been declining since after the Oberyn season. But unlike the walking dead, at least there's going to be an end and I expect the last two seasons to be epic.
Season 5 was a bit disappointing despite it having some amazing set pieces. But Season 6 was superb.
Actually you are correct, season 6 was good, season 5 was so bad, it clouded my memory. The sand snakes
Actually you are correct, season 6 was good, season 5 was so bad, it clouded my memory. The sand snakes
The end of Season 5 (last few episodes) were terrific. That included Hardhome and the Fighting Pit for example. But there were a few forgettable episodes and the Sand Snakes really were rubbish.
Yeah the last one or two episodes were good, but didn't make up for the hours of shit preceding it for me.
Cracking pair of tits though.
Season 5 and 6 have both been a bit weak. I mean compared to the rest of it that is. They're still miles better than anything else I've tried watching (and it's not like everything else is rubbish).
It's kind of like they've run out of ideas what to do with the characters though, so instead of people behaving in character or having plans and it all linking together, a lot of them are just going about doing random things, sometimes pointlessly.
The big battle with Jon Snow too...it was really well shot, and it was a great episode, but it was also a bit silly/hollywood action movie ish. Basicaly Jon Snow charges against an entire army by himself, ends up winning, then beats the bad guy (who inexplicably turns into a coward for this one episode despite being more than happy to get his hands dirty at every opportunity up until that point) using his bare hands.
You can kind of tell they caught up with the books and have had to start going out on more and more of a tangent.
I just really want them not to screw it up in the last two series. It's been so good it's difficult to see how they can bring it all to a head in a way that isn't a bit of an anti climax...because one of the big strengths of GOT has been that whenever something comes to a head, it always creates a load of other possibilities. There isn't really a "The End"
It's kind of like they've run out of ideas what to do with the characters though, so instead of people behaving in character or having plans and it all linking together, a lot of them are just going about doing random things, sometimes pointlessly.
The big battle with Jon Snow too...it was really well shot, and it was a great episode, but it was also a bit silly/hollywood action movie ish. Basicaly Jon Snow charges against an entire army by himself, ends up winning, then beats the bad guy (who inexplicably turns into a coward for this one episode despite being more than happy to get his hands dirty at every opportunity up until that point) using his bare hands.
You can kind of tell they caught up with the books and have had to start going out on more and more of a tangent.
I just really want them not to screw it up in the last two series. It's been so good it's difficult to see how they can bring it all to a head in a way that isn't a bit of an anti climax...because one of the big strengths of GOT has been that whenever something comes to a head, it always creates a load of other possibilities. There isn't really a "The End"
I think the end will be left where its not total finality but where you can think, ok this character could do this or that now that its over (if they arent dead haha).
S5 did have a few episodes of bleh, especially the Sandsnake stuff. It felt like it was written and directed by guest people from TWD. But yeah, that Hardhome episode in particular was excellent. S6 I really enjoyed. It had some really fantastic episodes (the noone training imo dragged but at least it had an and point).
S5 did have a few episodes of bleh, especially the Sandsnake stuff. It felt like it was written and directed by guest people from TWD. But yeah, that Hardhome episode in particular was excellent. S6 I really enjoyed. It had some really fantastic episodes (the noone training imo dragged but at least it had an and point).
Yep, this is sort of what I'm thinking.
GRRM's original story was always anti-war, keen to show the devastating destruction it can have on both a micro and macro level, that innocent folk get caught up in the middle while tyrants play their games. It wouldn't surprise me if, at the end of it all, Jon, Dany, Tyrion, the White Walkers etc. are all dead, and half of the King's Landing commoners just hand it to some 14-year-old who's a bastard of some former lord. Only the other half of the King's Landing commoners are unhappy about this and decide to start a war over it, so the wheel just keeps turning. Cut to black.
I like your idea. But it has to be Gendry as King, with the Cambridge rowing club as pretenders to his throne.
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Thing about Ramsey Snow is that while willing to get his hands dirty it was always, only when he had power behind him or others there to have his back. He was a sadistic bully and as so often happens with the type, once things went against him, once nobody was there to protect him, he was well a coward and quite useless.
Some here really, really need to watch context more. Even this series, although not as much as the books: have told one thing: "power is power". Cersei even said it to Littlefinger once.
So first of all: Targaryens were disposed, but both the show and the books make it very clear that there are still a lot of Targaryen supporters left who think of Robert as an usurper. Cersei is even more of an usurper. Robert at least (and that's the main reason he became king, not Ned or Jon) had a bit of Targaryen blood, Cersei just seized power. Danny now has a huge following despite being neglected for much of her life, es everyone stood to Robert as long as she was helpless. All of this supports "power is power". Having the right blood is nice and will make things easier, but it's in no way mandatory. Jon doesn't have a right to be King in the North either, yet he es (although going by the book Rob legitimized him and named him heir after the alleged death of Bran and Rickon). In the end, if Jons army and following is huge enough, nobody will give a feck who's son he is.
It will be interesting to see how strong the Lannister army still is and who they have as allies left in Westeros.
The North is gone from them of course. The Vale seems unlikely allies, unless Littlefinger, well does a Littlefinger. Riverlands are back in the Stark camp, with them probably goes whatever remaining Frey army there is. The Iron Islands are doing their own thing. Dorne seems unlikely to follow the Lannisters, though they might view Danny as more of a threat. House Tyrell, well their army is in tact, but who is left to lead them , so where do they end up.
Granted they got Zombie Mountain on their side and perhaps some more tricks up the sleeve of their maester. But how will the show deal with the fact that the Lannister Army has suffered several costly defeats in Rob's rebellion and would seem to have few allies. The whole point of letting the little sparrows run loose was that the Lannister Army could not keep things under control, nor could they then defeat the little sparrow army in Kings Landing.
By rights, unless House Tyrell's army falls under their control and the either Dorne or the Iron Islanders fall in with them, they should be well and truly fecked by Danny's army and Dragons. Of course that is making a few assumptions that I will not voice right now.
Granted they got Zombie Mountain on their side and perhaps some more tricks up the sleeve of their maester. But how will the show deal with the fact that the Lannister Army has suffered several costly defeats in Rob's rebellion and would seem to have few allies. The whole point of letting the little sparrows run loose was that the Lannister Army could not keep things under control, nor could they then defeat the little sparrow army in Kings Landing.
By rights, unless House Tyrell's army falls under their control and the either Dorne or the Iron Islanders fall in with them, they should be well and truly fecked by Danny's army and Dragons. Of course that is making a few assumptions that I will not voice right now.
Best trailer analysis:
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Tyrells and Dorne have already declared for Dany, as has the Vale (independently from Littlefinger for Jon
What's this "Zombie Mountain" you speak of? Never heard of it.
This! They were a terrible inclusion into the series but a great view nonetheless.