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They're setting Dany up to be an invader as opposed to the saviour she once thought she was. From comments certain characters have made towards her and what the directors/producers are subtly hinting at in the "Inside the Episode" youtube segments.
 
Why did Pycelle get killed exactly? Cos he'dve kicked off about the whole blowing shit up thing?
 
I haven't read all the books, so I can't say I know too much about them. But the way they are being portrayed in the TV show, they look utterly useless.

But even if they would get absolutely steamrolled by the North, I don't see the latter willing to take part in any Southern war right now.

They aren't useless just non committal and to be honest why should they? They are the new rich, a family who had built their wealth by relying on nobody and who are constantly frowned upon by the big houses because of it. Tywin went ballistic when a Frey married his sister because he thought they weren't high class enough while neither Starks nor Tullys had ever married in their families. So when Robert Rebellion occurred they simply stayed home. After all the Tullys/Stark were rebelling against the King and even the noble Hoster Tully didn't raised the banners before making sure he married off his two daughters (one was damaged goods) to two Lord Paramounts.

That doesn't mean that they are useless. The twins is a powerhouse that can withstand the charge of an army if needs be and Robb Stark had to bow to each and every Frey demand because he needed their men in battle.
 
I called most of what happened a few weeks ago.

Generally great episode which wrapped up a lot of storylines. If I am being nitpicky - which I am - it felt a bit rushed, as though they wanted to set up for this awesome epic season finale and so deliberately dawdled around at various points, filled episodes/stories up with filler so they could cram as much of the good shit into E10. Characters managing to travel across the continent(s) within the space of an episode, for example.
 
So, just watched the last ep.

I fecking love Miss. Targaryan. But there is only one true queen of Westeros, and that is fecking Lady Mormont.

Also, I truly hope for a Danaerys and Jon Snow romance :drool: considering the revelation of what happened in that tower it may be a little incestuous, but feck it, this is GoT.

Didn't like that sneaky look on the cnut Littlefingers face when he exchanged glances with Sansa though. Hope he dies a violent death impaled on a stake.
 
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That was incredible. Favourite moment was definitely Arya killing Walder, maybe I'm stupid but I didn't see it coming at all.

I'm kind of gutted that Jon isn't Ned Stark's boy, think it takes a way a big part of the reason we all root for him. And we're left in an awkward situation as the audience now, knowing the King in the North hasn't the right to be in that position.

Littlefinger is going to cause some serious shit when he doesn't get what he wants.

The Lannisters are fecked.

I really don't see what role the Brotherhood Without Banners have to play in the rest of this, same applies to the Hound and Melisandre.

Thought we'd see Arya approaching Winterfell at the end but ah well, seeing the dragons flying over the ships gave me goosebumps.
 
Jon Snow will be the King In The North until Bran gets back. At that point, we'll see if there are any ruptions between the two. I can't remember the early seasons well enough to recall whether they got on well.
 
Im glad Jon isnt Neds son. It means Ned was honorable until death which is great (well except the lie lol)

Negatives:

- Didn't enjoy the whole Cersie blows up everything scene. Convenient conclusion to the "Cercise's wrath" angle they had been building up for ages. At least we don't have to suffer the high Septor storyline anymore. It was dreadful.

Im confused, why was the scene a negative? Whats convenient about it? It pretty much was similar to Tyrions use Wildfire in season 2 in the battle.



Absolutely fantastic. Loved the music use this episode. I probably need to go back and listen to the use in other eps cos I cant remember it being as strong as it was today (though probably was and skipped).
 
That was incredible. Favourite moment was definitely Arya killing Walder, maybe I'm stupid but I didn't see it coming at all.

I'm kind of gutted that Jon isn't Ned Stark's boy, think it takes a way a big part of the reason we all root for him. And we're left in an awkward situation as the audience now, knowing the King in the North hasn't the right to be in that position.

Littlefinger is going to cause some serious shit when he doesn't get what he wants.

The Lannisters are fecked.

I really don't see what role the Brotherhood Without Banners have to play in the rest of this, same applies to the Hound and Melisandre.

Thought we'd see Arya approaching Winterfell at the end but ah well, seeing the dragons flying over the ships gave me goosebumps.

Why doesn't he have the right to be king? He's the son of Lyanna Stark.
 
The travel time in Westeros has become incredibly fecking efficient at this point!

Great finale... The King in the North scene was brilliant.
 
Great episode. Can't complain one bit about it.

I think this is the only one so far where nobody here has complained about, as of yet.
 
Why didnt Cersei get the Tyrel's out of the room before she burned it?

Is the impending attack on her worth it?
 
Gotta couple questions. First one is from the trailer prior to last night's episode where they show what's happened in previous episodes. When did that scene with Littlefinger and Sansa talking about Aunt Lyana in front of her statue in the catacombs take place? I remember well the one with Robert and Ned in front of her statue in Season 1. But can't for the life of me remember when Littlefinger and Sansa would have had the opportunity for that convo in Winterfell. My next question I'll spoiler since it's partly speculation.
There seems to be heavy allusion to Jon Snow being Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyana's child (not Ned Stark's illegitimate son). If that's the case, would that make Jon Snow and Daenerys half-siblings or would she be his aunt? Also, what's the big deal if that's what happened? Why's it this big secret that Ned couldn't even tell his wife and would rather have Catelyn think that he cheated on her?
 
Gotta couple questions. First one is from the trailer prior to last night's episode where they show what's happened in previous episodes. When did that scene with Littlefinger and Sansa talking about Aunt Lyana in front of her statue in the catacombs take place? I remember well the one with Robert and Ned in front of her statue in Season 1. But can't for the life of me remember when Littlefinger and Sansa would have had the opportunity for that convo in Winterfell.

Was only last season.

Edit: had a quick look to confirm. S5 ep04.

There seems to be heavy allusion to Jon Snow being Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyana's child (not Ned Stark's illegitimate son). If that's the case, would that make Jon Snow and Daenerys half-siblings or would she be his aunt? Also, what's the big deal if that's what happened? Why's it this big secret that Ned couldn't even tell his wife and would rather have Catelyn think that he cheated on her?

Robert Baratheon wanted every Targaryen dead. If Ned didnt tell anybody (she said promise me and he honoured it), then he can control who knows the secret. By making sure hes the only one that knows, he knows nobody else will know and find out.

He did however tell Jon that he would tell him about Jons mother next time they met (though unfortunately that didnt happen).

Also Dany would be his aunt, as dany is Rhaegars younger sister.
 
Well I finally watched Ep. 10 for some light relief after today's events and holy smoke!!! What an episode! A body count of 10 characters by my reckoning. The music in the first 10 minutes was just awesome. Some great reveals and major alliances forged. What was there not to like about this episode.

Think everyone had an appearance just to remind us that they're still alive...apart from Euron Greyjoy, Jorah Mormont, Red Priestess, White Walkers, Night's Watch, The Hound and the Brotherhood Without Banners, Brienne and Podryck. Suppose they couldn't get everyone in.

Season 7 going's to be epic!
 
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Why didnt Cersei get the Tyrel's out of the room before she burned it?

Is the impending attack on her worth it?

I guess Cersei was still pissed with Margaery for getting her hands on Tommen and trying to undermine her. She thought she'd got them when she re-instated High Sparrow and his loonies but that sort of backfired on her...hence the more drastic measures. She wasn't pleased with Olenna's damning words either when leaving King's Landing.
 
Im glad Jon isnt Neds son. It means Ned was honorable until death which is great (well except the lie lol)



Im confused, why was the scene a negative? Whats convenient about it? It pretty much was similar to Tyrions use Wildfire in season 2 in the battle.



Absolutely fantastic. Loved the music use this episode. I probably need to go back and listen to the use in other eps cos I cant remember it being as strong as it was today (though probably was and skipped).
I think he means convenient as in an easy way to close a storyline. I'm assuming it was in the books here - it's not like the TV writers rushed it and tried to close the story as quick as possible, it's just how George RR Martin wanted it to go. Also, the Shakespeare-esque scenario with the Queen mother and her son was brilliant IMO.

And the music, it's brilliant isn't it. I don't remember it being as strong as today either, I don't know if they'd gotten some new composer for this episode or what, but it was a lot better than previously IMO.
 
Jon Snow will be the King In The North until Bran gets back. At that point, we'll see if there are any ruptions between the two. I can't remember the early seasons well enough to recall whether they got on well.

Yeah they got on well. Jon and Robb were teaching Brandon how to use the bow, I think it was. Then there was when Jon was saying goodbye to Bran and Catelyn told him to piss off as Ned walked in. Then of course when Brandon was being held in a village that Jon was fighting in and he had the chance to get to him but decided to stick to his mission.
 
So how many names characters snuffed it in this episode

Margery
Loras
Their father
High sparrow
Thommen
Walder Frey
Grandmaster Pycelle

Kevan (Cersei + Jaime's uncle) and Lancel Lannister too.

Should this be spoilered?? Too late now..

Black & Lothar Frey (yummy yum)
Septa Unella...sort of. Wonder how long she'll last before the Mountain's finished with her.
 
Yeah they got on well. Jon and Robb were teaching Brandon how to use the bow, I think it was. Then there was when Jon was saying goodbye to Bran and Catelyn told him to piss off as Ned walked in. Then of course when Brandon was being held in a village that Jon was fighting in and he had the chance to get to him but decided to stick to his mission.
In that case, it'll be interesting to see what Jon Snow does when Bran and Danaerys finally meet. If he has an affiliation with both, which is he going to pick? He's obviously going to be caught in the middle in some way or another. He's going to need the dragons to fight the White Walkers. That's always been his priority.
 
Should this be spoilered?? Too late now..

Black & Lothar Frey (yummy yum)
Septa Unella...sort of. Wonder how long she'll last before the Mountain's finished with her.

With the Faith Militant destroyed he'll probably give her to the end of the season before she goes to the Lord of Light on a free transfer.
 
Tommen's death is becoming quite sad to me upon reflection. Very tragic.

Incredibly tragic. Kid just wanted to love his wife and his faith, but sees both destroyed in a moment. First time he ever takes control of his life (since he's been a pawn of everyone) is when he kills himself.
 
Should this be spoilered?? Too late now..

Black & Lothar Frey (yummy yum)
Septa Unella...sort of. Wonder how long she'll last before the Mountain's finished with her.

Why spoilered? If it has aired then we're free to talk about it, I think.
 
Incredibly tragic. Kid just wanted to love his wife and his faith, but sees both destroyed in a moment. First time he ever takes control of his life (since he's been a pawn of everyone) is when he kills himself.

To be honest I don't even care about his wife or his faith - both to me were kind of fraudulent anyway. The sadder thing is he only ever had nice intentions, and as you mention I think that's the first time in his life that he actually realises he is not in control at all, and likely (at this rate) never will be. He lost all hope instantly!
 
Also quite simply, she's lost her mind. Even more so now her children are all dead.

Yeah you could see that realisation in Jaime's face when she was being crowned. Should be interesting between those two.