Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

Don't like the idea of her being so overpowered personally. She doesn't feel like a Stark to me anymore either.

I love it. She's realising the potential we knew she had when she used to mock Bran. I want to see her make her way back to Jon and Sansa and for them to realise what a lethal tool she is and use her accordingly.
 
The last two episodes have put GoT back to what it was in the early seasons. Absolutely amazing final episodes where you could hardly catch your breath.

I know they've had plenty of time for you to get the characters but every scene in that felt really powerful and well done. Will rematch this entire season before the next one
 
Wonder how this will work then. Dragon girl will take the south, go to war with the North, while the White Walkers go mental too? The North men are in for a pretty rough time aren't they.

edit - not to forget, the Starks have a master assassin and a warg at their disposal. That's pretty cool.
 
Wonder how this will work then. Dragon girl will take the south, go to war with the North, while the White Walkers go mental too? The North men are in for a pretty rough time aren't they.

Would imagine that at first she will deal with the Lannister's, then either some deal will be struck with the North or as Dany's army enters the North they notice that huge Undead Army and figure out who the real enemy is pretty darn quick.
 
Would imagine that at first she will deal with the Lannister's, then either some deal will be struck with the North or as Dany's army enters the North they notice that huge Undead Army and figure out who the real enemy is pretty darn quick.
Hah, yeah probably something like that. Be interesting to see how the White Walkers and the Starks cope with the dragon; can Wargs control them?
 
I might be the only one to mourn for Granmaster Pycelle

Been there since day one dammit :(

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So how many names characters snuffed it in this episode

Margery
Loras
Their father
High sparrow
Thommen
Walder Frey
Grandmaster Pycelle
 
So how many names characters snuffed it in this episode

Margery
Loras
Their father
High sparrow
Thommen
Walder Frey
Grandmaster Pycelle

I imagine, they'll be looking to rap up by season 8. Next season will probably bring the three parties together which will push the other stuff out of the picture. Rap it up in dramatic fashion before trying to top it all again next season.
 
I might be the only one to mourn for Granmaster Pycelle

Been there since day one dammit :(

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Jaime put it best about him. A "Grey, sunken cnut."

Hah, yeah probably something like that. Be interesting to see how the White Walkers and the Starks cope with the dragon; can Wargs control them?
Dunno but the Three-eyed Raven did say "You'll never walk again but you will fly."
 
Gone back to loving Cercei, even she killed Margery :( Also the High Sparrow was a bit of a let down, I'd have loved to have known his true motivation or that he had one such as to be the ultimate ruler.

Also as for Dany, I refuse to believe she can lose now. She has everyone on her side in the South except the Lannisters it seems, but even then she's taken the best one. Unless she's assassinated, I don't see how she loses.

Lack of Whitewalkers upsets me greatly. They need to be shown a lot more now.
 
Would imagine that at first she will deal with the Lannister's, then either some deal will be struck with the North or as Dany's army enters the North they notice that huge Undead Army and figure out who the real enemy is pretty darn quick.
I think a marriage between Jon and Dany has been foreshadowed last night. Only asuttle hint but I think it was there.
 
The last two episodes have been brilliant. The storylines are converging nicely and I don't want to wait 10 months for the next series :(
 
Aren't they dead? Arya killed Walder and his 2 sons.

Walder Frey has 20 sons or something:lol:

Granted, the Freys are pretty useless in battle. They just happen to control a very important bridge, which has allowed them to be relevant in the wars. But now they also control the rest of the Riverlands, making it even harder to slip past from the north. They will of course lose against a Stark/Wildling/Vale army, but it will take a really long time. They can't really starve them out either, because the Lannisters can easily provide supplies from the South.

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Oh, and Winter is coming. It's not like the North has time to deal with the Freys.
 
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True but as the main baddie she doesn't really stir up the same feelings anymore. Only Arya is after vengeance. John doesn't give a feck about what's happening down south, Sansa much the same and Denaerys just wants the crown. I certainly dont care if she still holds a beef against a lannistor killing her mental father.
I'm hoping we are going to see a darker Cersei next season, she's lost everything and theres every possibility Jaime will leave her too, a repeat stabbing might be on the cards?
 
I REALLY wanted to see what Margaery's plan was. She was obviously faking her devotion to the Gods, but we never got to see what her end game was.
 
Walder Frey has 20 sons or something:lol:

Granted, the Freys are pretty useless in battle. They just happen to control a very important bridge, which has allowed them to be relevant in the wars. But now they also control the rest of the Riverlands, making it even harder to slip past from the north. They will of course lose against a Stark/Wildling/Vale army, but it will take a really long time. They can't really starve them out either, because the Lannisters can easily provide supplies from the South.

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Oh, and Winter is coming. It's not like the North has time to deal with the Freys.

They are not experienced in battle and have bitten more then they can chew (the Riverland's bannermen do not support them and they lack the men to cover the entire territory). However they aren't as bad as they are currently being portrayed. They are one of the strongest houses in the Riverlands.
 
I REALLY wanted to see what Margaery's plan was. She was obviously faking her devotion to the Gods, but we never got to see what her end game was.

Think that was pretty obvious. Cersei was never going to fake being a religious nutjob so she was counting on her being found guilty of all manner of things in her trial, then sending Loras back to High Garden, leaving her free to essentially rule Westeros by manipulating Tommen. She just didn't foresee Cersei going full Vader on her.
 
Think that was pretty obvious. Cersei was never going to fake being a religious nutjob so she was counting on her being found guilty of all manner of things in her trial, then sending Loras back to High Garden, leaving her free to essentially rule Westeros by manipulating Tommen. She just didn't foresee Cersei going full Vader on her.
She never would have been able to control Tommen whilst the High Sparrow had his ear.
 
They are not experienced in battle and have bitten more then they can chew (the Riverland's bannermen do not support them and they lack the men to cover the entire territory). However they aren't as bad as they are currently being portrayed. They are one of the strongest houses in the Riverlands.

I haven't read all the books, so I can't say I know too much about them. But the way they are being portrayed in the TV show, they look utterly useless.

But even if they would get absolutely steamrolled by the North, I don't see the latter willing to take part in any Southern war right now.
 
She never would have been able to control Tommen whilst the High Sparrow had his ear.

She was great at manipulating the words of others. It wouldn't have been hard to get Tommen to stop seeing him alone, meaning all she'd have had left to do would be to tell Tommen he meant something different to what he actually meant when they saw him together.

I also think she'd have had some sort of plan to get rid, even if it required force.
 
What do you want her to do exactly! Nuclear armageddon?
She's been acting out of love all this time. It's been a point hammered home time and again that despite her failings she does it out of love for her children, she doesnt have any left, her love for her children defined her and now her own actions have taken that price of humanity away.
 
She's been acting out of love all this time. It's been a point hammered home time and again that despite her failings she does it out of love for her children, she doesnt have any left, her love for her children defined her and now her own actions have taken that price of humanity away.

I guess I see what you are saying. When she said to burn Tommen like the rest was symbolic of that.
 
The Mad King's maddest moment was wanting to burn all of King's Landing. Cersei's been there, done that, bought the T-shirt.
She's lost her last shred of humanity when Tommen killed himself, even the wildfire explosion was to protect her son. Before her creuleness had a purpose, now it'll be indiscriminate and uncalculated I think.