Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

If you're referring to Arya and Hound then that was Season 4.
No Tyrion and Jorah for one bored the pants of me. Arya sweeping floors also bored me and I was annoyed with the Waif from day 1.

I loved Arya and the Hound, I'd have watched a show just about those 2.
 
Anyone else notice that Arya was the serving wench that was eyeing up Jamie when he was talking to Bron?

Either that or Arya killed the serving wench and took her face after the flirt scene. Probably just establishing some cover, making sure people knew the serving wench was in for Jamie so they would not bother her or some other crap I make up in my head.
 
What the feck did the Mountain do to the Nun?

He raped her.
Next: Hes gonna murder her
Then: He will kill her children... (well not really).

4 Don't forget House Greyjoy.

3 and a half given Euron will probably be against Theon and Yara (and probably Dany). Could see the following:

Them meeting in the sea on the way to Westeros and the fight between the two taking a few (or hundreds of) people away from Danys army but still being strong enough to take charge of KL.
 
Tommen's death was pretty shit.

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Negatives:

- Didn't enjoy the whole Cersie blows up everything scene. Convenient conclusion to the "Cercise's wrath" angle they had been building up for ages. At least we don't have to suffer the high Septor storyline anymore. It was dreadful.
- Meeting Denaerys ruined Tyrion. He's gone from the brilliant complex and edgy character (which he grew into) to this cliche-speaking side kick of my least favorite character.
- Denaerys moving along the path that's been charted for her 5 seasons back. Didn't like the idea back then either, and I just watch her scenes resigned to it now.
- Sam.

Positives:
- Arya taking the first meaningful step of her revenge. Cool scene.
- While I didn't like the opening scene, it was good to at least see someone strong on the Iron Throne.
- Scenes in the North as usual great to watch.
- King in the North.

All in all, a good season finale, especially in how much it moved things forward and, like the last one, the manner in which it was directed.

I don't agree with a lot of choices made by GRRM/show writers, which lessen the experience for me personally, but having chosen that path, it's a fitting season finale.
 
Negatives:

- Didn't enjoy the whole Cersie blows up everything scene. Convenient conclusion to the "Cercise's wrath" angle they had been building up for ages. At least we don't have to suffer the high Septor storyline anymore. It was dreadful.
- Meeting Denaerys ruined Tyrion. He's gone from the brilliant complex and edgy character (which he grew into) to this cliche-speaking side kick of my least favorite character.
- Denaerys moving along the path that's been charted for her 5 seasons back. Didn't like the idea back then either, and I just watch her scenes resigned to it now.
- Sam.

Positives:
- Arya taking the first meaningful step of her revenge. Cool scene.
- While I didn't like the opening scene, it was good to at least see someone strong on the Iron Throne.
- Scenes in the North as usual great to watch.
- King in the North.

All in all, a good season finale, especially in how much it moved things forward and, like the last one, the manner in which it was directed.

I don't agree with a lot of choices made by GRRM/show writers, which lessen the experience for me personally, but having chosen that path, it's a fitting season finale.
I don't know I felt that Cersei scene needed to happen. We've known from very early on that she was the series main antagonist (excluding the walkers), she just needed to establish herself as it. I would've liked to see a little more development go into the set up of the wildfire explosion, but it does trace nicely the wildfire plot to kill the enemies of the mad king before his death, it's a sort of role reversal for Targaryen.
 
I don't know I felt that Cersei scene needed to happen. We've known from very early on that she was the series main antagonist (excluding the walkers), she just needed to establish herself as it. I would've liked to see a little more development go into the set up of the wildfire explosion, but it does trace nicely the wildfire plot to kill the enemies of the mad king before his death, it's a sort of role reversal for Targaryen.
True but as the main baddie she doesn't really stir up the same feelings anymore. Only Arya is after vengeance. John doesn't give a feck about what's happening down south, Sansa much the same and Denaerys just wants the crown. I certainly dont care if she still holds a beef against a lannistor killing her mental father.
 
I actually enjoyed that episode, really entertaining with more conniving and back stabbing, murder and plotting than in all the episodes this season put together. Great stuff.
 
I just can't see Daenerys losing though, they've now made her way too powerful with all her allies.
 
Prediction for the season finale(I haven't read the books):

1. Davos will kill Melisandre to avenge Shireen.

2. Cersei will get a ridiculously strict sentence and react by burning King's Landing to the ground(the wildfire).

3. Tommen will die. Most likely in the wildfire.

Pretty satisfied with my predictions, looking at the bigger picture. I should have known that Davos is too honorable to resort to murder, though. He just had to ask Jon for an execution...
 
Has Queen Cersi got anyone on her side? The Lannister Army and (maybe) Uncle Greyjoy's lot? Am I forgetting anyone?

Well the Frey's still probably. They don't seem too much to hold onto. With Edmure still under wraps, they might be able to bully some former Tully troops into fighting for them (not Tully's themselves just some of their troops). Not even sure Uncle Euron will join in since it seems he has eyes on the Throne himself and not just the Iron Islands throne.
 
Arya seemed to get to Frey and kill him rather too easily, she could basically kill Cersei and Daenerys just by herself by the looks of things. But apart from this I reiterate I really enjoyed that episode.
 
Has Queen Cersi got anyone on her side? The Lannister Army and (maybe) Uncle Greyjoy's lot? Am I forgetting anyone?

The Freys control the Riverlands and have control over two or three central areas that are almost impossible to siege. Even if the Vale and the North attacked together now, it would take them years to get through(also, remember that most of the Vale soldiers are in the North now).

The Lannisters + the Gold Cloaks of Kings Landing + the Iron Island still probably amount to close to 15.000 soliders and over a thousand ships. Plus they are on the defensive. They don't necessarily need the numbers. If the Freys get enough provisions in time, they can hold all attacks from the North, while Euron Greyjoy can make sure the attacks don't come from the west(Casterly Rock). That would force Daenarys to attack from the South/East, which is ultimately the same thing.

The game changer is the dragons, though. They pretty much make it hopeless for the Lannisters to defend King's Landing. Had it not been for the dragons, then it would have been a surprisingly even battle. The Lannisters would still most likely lose, but it wouldn't be as quick and brutal as you'd think.
 
Arya seemed to get to Frey and kill him rather too easily, she could basically kill Cersei and Daenerys just by herself by the looks of things. But apart from this I reiterate I really enjoyed that episode.

Which has been the whole point of her training. Ja'qen (sp?) easily got out of his prison and killed the guards to escape when they first met. They're master assassins and now Arya is too.
 
Arya seemed to get to Frey and kill him rather too easily, she could basically kill Cersei and Daenerys just by herself by the looks of things. But apart from this I reiterate I really enjoyed that episode.

Yeah he did not seem to keep too much in the terms of body guards around him, but then again he did not think he had much left to fear from anyone, what with all his enemies dead or in prison and the Lannister's on his side.
 
Which has been the whole point of her training. Ja'qen (sp?) easily got out of his prison and killed the guards to escape when they first met. They're master assassins and now Arya is too.

But she didn't finish her training? And I just presumed as with anything in life it takes years of experience to build up those expertise, start off killing the easy prey and work up. But still, it was a minor criticism.
 
But she didn't finish her training? And I just presumed as with anything in life it takes years of experience to build up those expertise, start of killing the easy prey and work up. But still, it was a minor criticism.

Or did she? It seemed like one of those "well done you passed the test" moments to me.
 
Negatives:

- Didn't enjoy the whole Cersie blows up everything scene. Convenient conclusion to the "Cercise's wrath" angle they had been building up for ages. At least we don't have to suffer the high Septor storyline anymore. It was dreadful.
- Meeting Denaerys ruined Tyrion. He's gone from the brilliant complex and edgy character (which he grew into) to this cliche-speaking side kick of my least favorite character.
- Denaerys moving along the path that's been charted for her 5 seasons back. Didn't like the idea back then either, and I just watch her scenes resigned to it now.
- Sam.

Positives:
- Arya taking the first meaningful step of her revenge. Cool scene.
- While I didn't like the opening scene, it was good to at least see someone strong on the Iron Throne.
- Scenes in the North as usual great to watch.
- King in the North.

All in all, a good season finale, especially in how much it moved things forward and, like the last one, the manner in which it was directed.

I don't agree with a lot of choices made by GRRM/show writers, which lessen the experience for me personally, but having chosen that path, it's a fitting season finale.
Loved the opening Cersei team, I thought it was fantastic, one of the best Game of Thrones scenes. Gonna have to have a listen to the music played in it in a bit. Agree on Tyrion. Dany I'm torn on, I cringe half the time she's on, don't know why. Don't hate on Sam!

For Arya, hm... can't say why but I didn't really like her scene, same with a lot of hers. I don't know if it's the actor or what.

Which is fine. We're reaching endgame now in the human vs human story arc.
Don't like the idea of her being so overpowered personally. She doesn't feel like a Stark to me anymore either.