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That's quite an assumption. It might turn out to be true but why would you consider it so obvious when it's never been shown to happen nor implied, on the actual show. The whole cult is built around the anonymity of having no identity and wearing many faces. Not transforming completely into another human being. So what.. she wears a Dire Wolf's face and turns into a Dire Wolf?

My opinion - GOT won't do something so absurd and it was indeed Arya.
He turned into the Waif who is half his size. Of course the body changes.
 
Enjoyed the episode. Some great moments. The Arya bit is getting weirder. The strange look on the faces of people on the streets while Arya is plodding around after what looked like fatal assault got me thinking...

They were probably thinking 'serves you well for impersonating a blind panhandler, bitch' or something to that extent.
 
I think its a fair possibility given the video posted above from a previous season where Jaqen is Waif, and killed original jaqen has Aryas face. And yeah, its not just face. Given this is a show with magic, dragons, walkers, its bizarre that the whole body shifting is seen as absurd.
 
To be honest, I was half expecting Arya to wake up in a bit of a sweat having just dreamed about being found by the Waif. But then the sequence kept going...and going...and going. Then I thought shit, it's really happening!! But then I would have expected the Waif to finish the job?
 
Funny thing is it will be Arya, and then they start the next episode with her bleeding, and then shes finished off by some nobody who says "this is for pretending to be blind and taking my money"... end of her arc
 
Speculation on Arya's future...

I can see Arya being dead but the faceless men getting a contract to kill someone big (maybe Sansa, maybe Jon) and using Arya's "face" to carry out the hit.
 
Aren't the Brotherhood meant to be good guys? That was the impression I was under from their previous appearances.
 
Aren't the Brotherhood meant to be good guys? That was the impression I was under from their previous appearances.

Unless they were corrupted few from the group, or impostors or just really are bad and stories about them are not entirely true?
 
Yeah, she wore the face of a young girl and she simply took the mask off and slaughtered the guy. It's not as if she walking around like a 6 foot tall stocky Ned Stark and after taking her mask off converted into a tiny girl.

Regarding the bolded bit, the question isn't whether you can only wear the face of someone who matches your physique complete. It's whether your physique changes when you wear a face, as that's the only way Jagen can pull off impersonating Arya

Not really sure if this is Spoiler worthy, but it wouldn't be too much of a stretch would it ? It does seem pretty clear that all the Gods have some form of power which is seen through the believers. The Old God's warging thing, God of Light with their resurrections, and maybe possibly the God of Black and White (I think that's what they are called) with their shapeshifting. Obviously, the first two arcs were much more developed in the show, so it can seem unclear as to the exact nature of the powers, the faceless men posses. But I do recall Jaqen wearing the face of a few people in previous seasons, so I just naturally assumed it's a gift you are given once you are properly trained.
Also, wasn't Arya's first trainer (The flamboyant guy) also wearing someone else's face ? I think there is enough evidence there to suggest, that it's not just the case of swapping faces alone.

As for the ritual of cleaning the body, removing the face etc. and it's actual sgnificance, well, I have no idea. Seems like those typical standard traditions each of these Gods make their believers do.
 
Aren't the Brotherhood meant to be good guys? That was the impression I was under from their previous appearances.
To be fair, guerrillas always were (in real life) a very complicated problem, they tend to live off civilians and often killed them for not helping or because of the suspected collaboration. Especially in the WW2. The Brotherhood is a guerrilla army living in the hostile lands (if I remember correctly they don't like the King/Lannisters), so, while they can be good to Arya for example, they can be ruthless to some other innocents. They are a neutral force and their mission isn't to defend the peaceful people - it is to protect themselves and to serve the Lord of Light (who is quite bloodthirsty, as we know already)
 
The Old God's warging thing, God of Light with their resurrections, and maybe possibly the God of Black and White (I think that's what they are called) with their shapeshifting.[/SPOILER]
He is called The Many-Faced God
 
And while we're on the subject of the slaughter of those innocents by the Brotherhood, wtf was the Hound doing? Chopping wood the whole time? :lol:
 
He is called The Many-Faced God
Aah right, thanks. The shrine where they keep the faces is called the house of black and white then ?? All these names and characters genuinely confuse me. :(
 
Aah right, thanks. The shrine where they keep the faces is called the house of black and white then ?? All these names and characters genuinely confuse me. :(

Correct...meant to represent the many faces of death!

I just watched the episode again...what did Arya do with the bags of money before getting knobbled by the Waif?
 
Aah right, thanks. The shrine where they keep the faces is called the house of black and white then ?? All these names and characters genuinely confuse me. :(
Yes house of black and white is the name of their temple.
Which leads me to believe that they could be more than a mere hitmen organization (black side) and have a white side that we are yet to discover.
 
That's not what it says in the first post of this thread. Put it in the first post. This happened last week too.

Edit: I can imagine how you see it if you use this forum a lot. But why would casual people jumping only from the homepage stop by a thread from 2014? I've gotten wrong twice now for doing exactly what it says in the first post. Do not appreciate at all being called something due to that, to be honest. This time I even said before the spoiler, don't read it if you don't want future discussion. And the trailer I mentioned in 2 sentences in that spoiler is posted in this thread!!

The first post was edited incorrectly and has been corrected. The rules apply to all threads on the Caf and are mentioned every few pages in this thread. If you don't read them you do so at your own risk. I'd have though the first warning might have made you have a look.
 
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The first post was edited incorrectly and has been correctly. The rules apply to all threads on the Caf and are mentioned every few pages in this thread. If you don't read them you do so at your own risk. I'd have though the first warning might have made you have a look.

You also only got one warning for spoilers. I've reluctantly reversed it due to the modmin typo in the op.
 
Bit of a prick tease that episode.

Nice to see old Al Swearengen albeit all too briefly and a welcome if predictable return for the Hound.

The Arya bit has no jeopardy for me at all though because she's obviously not going out like that (or they'd have just ended it this week). Also, her training seems to have been a waste of time judging by how easily she got fooled. Worst assassin ever.
 
Bit of a prick tease that episode.

Nice to see old Al Swearengen albeit all too briefly and a welcome if predictable return for the Hound.

The Arya bit has no jeopardy for me at all though because she's obviously not going out like that (or they'd have just ended it this week). Also, her training seems to have been a waste of time judging by how easily she got fooled. Worst assassin ever.

That's what happens when you fail to complete your training.
 
It would of been worse if Arya had somehow beaten the other women considering she is much more experienced.
 
That's what happens when you fail to complete your training.

Do you need training to realize that standing on a bridge in the middle of the city and allowing random old women to approach you is not a good idea when the group you pissed off are masters of disguise?

That's why she joined up in the first place.
 
Do you need training to realize that standing on a bridge in the middle of the city and allowing random old women to approach you is not a good idea when the group you pissed off are masters of disguise?

That's why she joined up in the first place.


yeah because having been in a the big city, making arrangements for a ship while also stealing the money needed to sail on the ship means you have had no contact at all with anyone, especially any random strangers.

I mean obviously she let her guard down, but having spent they day or more moving about the city, making arrangements to set sail, she being human, could actually start to feel she is really okay and going to make it out of their just fine.

assuming that was the real Arya
 
Neither did I. Weren't they the ones that took in Arya and had the Red Priest who resurrected the bloke who got killed by the Hound during their trial by combat?
Yeah they have a Red priest but I think Lovejoy was building a church to the Seven. You know how much the Red God likes competition.
 
yeah because having been in a the big city, making arrangements for a ship while also stealing the money needed to sail on the ship means you have had no contact at all with anyone, especially any random strangers.

I mean obviously she let her guard down, but having spent they day or more moving about the city, making arrangements to set sail, she being human, could actually start to feel she is really okay and going to make it out of their just fine.

assuming that was the real Arya

Well I thought that at first myself but then why show the scene with her arranging passage to Westeros if it isn't her?

Surely that scene is there then only to fool the audience and doesn't really make any sense in the context of the story?
 
Well I thought that at first myself but then why show the scene with her arranging passage to Westeros if it isn't her?

Surely that scene is there then only to fool the audience and doesn't really make any sense in the context of the story?

Only thing I can think of is if Jaqen does not know where/how Waif plans to go about her mission, so he is deliberately roaming around a bit as Arya to try to draw some attention to 'him'self.
 
The first post was edited incorrectly and has been correctly. The rules apply to all threads on the Caf and are mentioned every few pages in this thread. If you don't read them you do so at your own risk. I'd have though the first warning might have made you have a look.

I did look the first time, and I checked the first post again before posting today and I was discussing a trailer already posted in this thread.

I see the first post has been edited now. Good. Now I'd recommend if you really feel diligent checking out a few other show threads, because I've seen trailers posted in them. Best of luck.