I agree, Rome is a brilliant series, my personal favorite. Too bad, it only lasted two seasons.
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I agree, Rome is a brilliant series, my personal favorite. Too bad, it only lasted two seasons.
Absolutely. I only found out (read, I dont know if its actually true) that they actually cancelled Rome specifically because they knew they were going to make Game of Thrones and they wanted to focus everything on that. Very disappointing.
wow, such high praise. I'll be sure to check it out.
@Sylar Why do you think
Will kill Jaqun? I thought both of them respected each other, as after all in the last episode he tells Waif not to make her suffer?
The really tall ones that are on the horses and have big icy weapons.Where were the white walkers in that case? I'm bloody confused
I dont think Dirty Schwein is asking who are white Walkers. hes asking where were they? And they were in the cave type thing having just killed 3ER. They will be a bit far back.
I think her stance was changing having seen the play, remembering who her family is (hence asking why this person had to be poisoned). Seeing the play about her family a few times reminded her shes Arya, and hence not wanting to go through being a random faceless killer.
Thats how I saw it anyway.
I see it as a way to close the arc, but, I see, Arya fighting with Waif. And Arya surprising Waif with needle. As Waif is dying, she lets out that it was Jaqen approved for Arya to be killed. So given that, Arya will steal a face to look like Waif and go and kill Jaqen. etc
I think her stance was changing having seen the play, remembering who her family is (hence asking why this person had to be poisoned). Seeing the play about her family a few times reminded her shes Arya, and hence not wanting to go through being a random faceless killer.
Thats how I saw it anyway.
All a bit convenient though, wasn't it? Her first task back on the training buzz, to prove her loyalty after being restored, is kill someone in a play about her life. Kinda feels like there's going to be a hidden master plan behind it all.
Unless it's already been mentioned, I think Franken-Mountain's opponent in the trial by combat will be Cercei's cousin. The high sparrow has already mind fecked the Lannister's, I reckon that will continue.
If he wants to feck with her, he might as well select Tommen
hadn't thought of that!!Yeah I think it will be. but tbh, thats a good way to test somebodys loyalty and see if their emotion is removed.
nah, it'll be the Hound. Arya who has just gotten back via the Narrow Sea Express will use a face to kill Cercie after the Hound dies from his wounds.
Hang on? Trial by combat? What did I miss?
Cersei said that's what she was going to choose when she was talking about Jaime leaving. You know, right before the incest.
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I doubt Cercei will care one iota about her cousin.
Her walk of Atonement only acted as bail, so to speak. She is still charged with serious crimes and has to face a trial.
Seemed like a good test for her by Jaquen.
That's the thing that gets me about this show. At times you think it's so predictable, and then you think again and feel you've no idea what's going to happen
I think there's been enough foreshadowing that he has a serious soft spot for Arya, but then again it's in the nature of their religion not to let emotion get in the way.
It would be a bit bloody much to make us watch 1.5 seasons of body washing and stick training only for her to not become an assasin and then get killed!That's the thing that gets me about this show. At times you think it's so predictable, and then you think again and feel you've no idea what's going to happen
I think there's been enough foreshadowing that he has a serious soft spot for Arya, but then again it's in the nature of their religion not to let emotion get in the way.
This * infinity.
I haven't watched Vikings yet but people keep telling me it is great. I have tbe first series of last kingdom but haven't watched it yet - I'll have to give it a go.
During the Diadochi wars, succession wars following the death of Alexander, the most elite soldiers were the Argyraspides, who by this time were 60-70 years old.
At the battle of Paraitakene they ran around slaughtering everyone. My theory is, most people were chickenshit, and these guys were hardened killers, knew how to fight, and had absolutely no hesitation to just wade in and slash people down. Basically, at this battle the Argyraspides were so much better than everyone else, they rampaged too far forwards, slaughtering everything in their path, that they opened a gap in the ranks of their battle lines, which ultimately led to their army losing.
If I lived in that time period, and I had a wise old grand father, he'd probably say something like "never underestimate a man who has been chopping people in half for 50 years and gives zero fecks".
Since we now know that "Coldhands" is Benjen, he should have been back in season 3 I think. I think GRRM probably asked them to keep him out of the show until after the show passed the books. That's why he sort of comes out of the blue.
He stole it because it's valyrian steel it kills white walkers. It's needed at the wall. Whether he keeps it or not I dunno, but I'd wager that is his intent. Sam is not sentimental, he's practical. His dad has a sword made to kill white walkers on a wall, and the walkers are in the north. That sword is going north some how I bet.
I'm surprised that this episode is rated below the last one, which was pretty average in my opinion. This one was very nice written, although there were too much Sam and Gilly for my liking.
Was absolutely sure that it would be Benjen who saves Brann - he was the only known character who still could've been out there to become the deus ex machina. There was a slight chance that the Old Gods would've helped him without the intermediary but I don't think that they work that way. Didn't expect him to be a white walker though, even if it was obvious that someone happened to him that stopped him from coming back. It's interesting why his eyes doesn't glow - or is it a just sight of the wrong intentions, like when you feel the desire to kill humans your eyes become little flashlights. Hasn't expected Brann in this episode at all to be fair, they usually left the character from the next episode after some drastic changes.
Khaleese is boring as always. How many times will she repeat the same BS, with her voice gradually intensifying while she talks about Westeros, her birth rights and her magical abilities...
Was absolutely sure that it would be Benjen who saves Brann - he was the only known character who still could've been out there to become the deus ex machina. There was a slight chance that the Old Gods would've helped him without the intermediary but I don't think that they work that way. Didn't expect him to be a white walker though, even if it was obvious that someone happened to him that stopped him from coming back. It's interesting why his eyes doesn't glow - or is it a just sight of the wrong intentions, like when you feel the desire to kill humans your eyes become little flashlights. Hasn't expected Brann in this episode at all to be fair, they usually left the character from the next episode after some drastic changes.
Khaleese is boring as always. How many times will she repeat the same BS, with her voice gradually intensifying while she talks about Westeros, her birth rights and her magical abilities...
1. Will Sam return to the Wall? Valeryan steel's sword is pointless at the Citadel and he probably don't have the time to learn their trade with everything unfolding around him, it probably takes a few years at least to become a maester
2. Will Arya return to Westeros? Or will she join Khalesse's army? She will kill the annoying girl, of course, and probably will do something with the face room, but she has nothing to do in this city anymore
3. Will there be two big battles until the end of the season, for Riverrun and for Winterfell? Or only one great battle for the North in the 9th episode with the addition of Lanisters, Blackfish and Littlefinger? Can Jaime change his allegiance after the potential meeting with Brianne and the whole falling out with the King?
2. Will Arya return to Westeros? Or will she join Khalesse's army? She will kill the annoying girl, of course, and probably will do something with the face room, but she has nothing to do in this city anymore
3. Will there be two big battles until the end of the season, for Riverrun and for Winterfell? Or only one great battle for the North in the 9th episode with the addition of Lanisters, Blackfish and Littlefinger? Can Jaime change his allegiance after the potential meeting with Brianne and the whole falling out with the King?
In the medieval times it would be:
1. Brann
2. Rickon
3 is tricky. In the real medieval world there were different practices, but usually it was gender-oriented, so it won't be Ned's daughters, but his brother. Yet, his brother (without the obvious note that everyone think that he is dead - something that also is true for Brann) renounced himself of his name and titles, which rules him out of the contention
So,
3. Sansa
4. Arya
Jon is also not an heir - not only is he a bastard, he had also renounced himself. Although he kinda said "feck it" after the resurrection, so who knows... Considering that there are literally no one left but him for the fifth position, he can have it.
Becuase a single extra sword that's useful will make a difference? Have you not seen the army and accomplishments the White Walkers have made recently?
And Sam is practical, not sentimental...? Have you missed the past few seasons?
You've never voted in your life, have you?
Killing zombie isn't a problem, really, with all the knowledge that the Night Watch and all of the Northmen already have. Fire, fire, fire, repeat - plus I would expect some flaming swords and some dragon fire in the final battle.
White Walkers is a completely different story - they are almost invincible if you don't have valyrian steel weapon or dragonglass. There are not many of them either - 10 or 15, we can count them if we want in the scene with the baby's transformation. So yeah, one sword will make a great difference, because there won't be many weapons capable of killing walkers in the end.
The Wights are the real problem in a full-on battle. So no, a single sword in the hands of someone whom is far more skilled at handling a fork won't make a difference.
I think you're both missing the obvious point that this was symbolism.
It was both. And it's a fantasy series, you shouldn't be too concentrated on realism, especially about Sam not being skilled enough. It's, again, a symbolism, that you claim we don't see - that a chubby lubber without any real skills but with a brave heart can be the decisive man in the battle for the realm's fate. In Game of Thrones, the symbolic moments like this (Sam refusing to be the man his father says he is) can and will be used in the bigger story.
Again, if you have enough wildfire, like in the Blackwater, or a dragon, zombies are not going to be a problem at all. You saw what one flaming ball can do. Although maybe dragon fire can burn White Walkers too, who knows.
Can I jump in? Gonna spoiler this just to be sure...
I think the show is obviously working its way towards an epic final war between human and white walker, I think we can all agree on that. We can probably all agree that the big players will all be there too. Jon's got his valyrian sword, Dany'll have her dragons. Sam's sword will need to go to skilled fighter to be any use. So I'd say the candidates could be..
- A dying Jorah going off on a suicide mission
- Bronn, just because everyone loves him and he'd get to cement his noble character
- Jamie, even though he's pretty rubbish at the moment. That'd be a long game arc too as he regains his skills etc
- Daario? Kinda have the feeling that something bad will befall him long before the end
I'm leaving out Grey Worm because he doesn't use a sword, and again I don't think he'll make it to the end.
Totally left-field possibilities..
- Arya? It'd go against the gender bias of that world, but the likes of Brienne have shown women can be warriors
- Brienne herself? Nah, I think she's actually a biteen of a wuss at heart
Am I missing out on any of the main characters who fight?
- A dying Jorah going off on a suicide mission
- Bronn, just because everyone loves him and he'd get to cement his noble character
- Jamie, even though he's pretty rubbish at the moment. That'd be a long game arc too as he regains his skills etc
- Daario? Kinda have the feeling that something bad will befall him long before the end
I'm leaving out Grey Worm because he doesn't use a sword, and again I don't think he'll make it to the end.
Totally left-field possibilities..
- Arya? It'd go against the gender bias of that world, but the likes of Brienne have shown women can be warriors
- Brienne herself? Nah, I think she's actually a biteen of a wuss at heart
Am I missing out on any of the main characters who fight?
Brienne already has a valeryian steel sword.
Sandsnakes LOL. But speaking of lol, I forgot about them, and theyre going to get involved in the KL shit arent they?
Brienne already have a Valyrian sword, the one that Jamie gave her, as far as I remember
It would be strange to see Jorah with Valyrian sword too, considering that he already has one that should've been his (Jon's). Same with Jamie, who gave his own sword away
Arya won't be tall and strong enough in two or three years (and probably never), all her training was about agility and evasion too, not something you associate with the big sword
Still think that it will be Sam's to keep, imo
It would be strange to see Jorah with Valyrian sword too, considering that he already has one that should've been his (Jon's). Same with Jamie, who gave his own sword away
Arya won't be tall and strong enough in two or three years (and probably never), all her training was about agility and evasion too, not something you associate with the big sword
Still think that it will be Sam's to keep, imo
I have this horrible, soul destroying feeling. That Cersei will choose the mountain (obviously) and the High Sparrow will summon a healed Hound. Given the amount of characters returning from the dead recently it wouldn't shock me one bit. Sigh.
Ahhhh yes. Forgotten about that.
Why is that soul destroying? Do you mean for it's sheer predictability?
Yes and bad writing as well tbf.