The Seven are not in the business of resurrecting people though. And it will be completely illogical - and Game of Thrones writing, as bad as it is sometimes, always has logic and hidden clues in the previous narrative. Nothing connects the Hound and the High Sparrow afaic and he (the Hound) was pretty much against any religion at the point where we left him, without any signs of change.
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They probably teleported (just because they can) to Dany to learn the art of giving bad repetitive speeches.
We don't actually know he's dead though. It's one of these "we assume he's dead but SURPRISE he isn't!". Also the whole point of the Sparrows is they brainwash you! Given how much the Hound banged on about wanting to kill the Mountain who else can do it? We all assume Cersie is completely safe from the trial by combat due to having the Mountain, Hound is the only one who could conceivable beat him.
How many Valeryian Steel Swords do we know about? I want to say 4 or 5 now?
4, but some wild speculation
The iron throne is apparently swords forged together by dragon fire so that could be a source of extra valeryian steel swords
Enjoyed this episode much more than the last one. It's all building up to a typically amazing GOT climax.
another possible theory for this would be Ser Loras.....he's still held captive by the high sparrows and you could see him being used as an act of contrition for the sin of sodomising.......He's pretty handy with a sword and you'd expect the zombie mountain to destroy him but you never know
Loras looked a shell of a man a few weeks ago so this is a long shot but it would represent an interesting plot twist
the High Sparrow can't lose.....Cersei's champion fights the son of Mace Tyrell!! would surely lead to a split in their temporary truce against the High Sparrow
Loras looked a shell of a man a few weeks ago so this is a long shot but it would represent an interesting plot twist
the High Sparrow can't lose.....Cersei's champion fights the son of Mace Tyrell!! would surely lead to a split in their temporary truce against the High Sparrow
Does Jamie Lannister not have one? I thought Jofferey made 2 swords from Ned Starks 1 sword?
Also, I like how whenever anyone gets or forges a Valeryian Steel Sword, someone has to mention that it's "only one of it's kind in existance"!
Well, you learn something new!
Jamie gave his to Brianne.
TBH, given how long this has been going on for, every single piece of speculation has been said. So anything that does happen most likely was predicted by one person (or two) and for them it will feel predictable.
If that makes sense ...
If that makes sense ...
Did Meera kill a whitewalker? Or did I imagine that within the cave? (need to see that scene again). I thought she did, so was that another weapon? Or was it something else.
Ahhh need to watch that scene again.
Pretty sure she used the same thing that Fat Sam used to kill one... I might be wrong though.
Ahhh ok, so actual dragonglass (basically raw material then). Interesting, thanks
Lannisters had two, which were made from Ned's sword, one was given to Brienne and the second one was given to Joffrey iirc - so it should still be in King's Landing, probably belongs to Tommen now
There was also a dagger, belonging to Tyrion, which was used in the assassination attempt on Brann's life - I'm pretty sure they said that it was Valyrian steel when they discussed what a rare and expensive weapon it was
Jon has one from Mormont
Now Sam has one from Tarly's family
I don't think that we encountered anything else in the series.
Give Heartsbane to Tormund Giantsbane.
Valerian steel is overrated. A few of them won't do much against thousands of white walker
It might in a small combat situation, but i dont think it matters in the grand combat
It might in a small combat situation, but i dont think it matters in the grand combat
There isn't thousands though, as far as we've seen. Thousands of wights sure, but White Walkers seem to be the officer class and we've only seen 5 or 6 of them at a time.
Wights burn readily, while WWs seem impervious to fire and ordinary weapons. They shatter instantly with dragonglass or valerian steel though. It's going to be really important.
The dagger didn't belong to Tyrion, it was Littlefinger's. He lost it in a wager to King Robert prior to the start of the show, but got it back from Ned in season 1. It was actually the dagger he put to Ned's throat when the City Watch turned on and killed Ned's men in the throne room.. Littlefinger still has it, and yes it's Valyrian steel.
I didn't mind that episode so much, then again I have always been more of a fan of the politics and build-ups.
One thing that did catch my eye was when the High Sparrow was talking about them all being happy to die on the steps, they cut for few seconds to Lancel looking up at him. Could well be nothing, but my and the missus both got the feeling something will happen there.
One thing that did catch my eye was when the High Sparrow was talking about them all being happy to die on the steps, they cut for few seconds to Lancel looking up at him. Could well be nothing, but my and the missus both got the feeling something will happen there.
I remembered that it was originally Tyrion's but Littlefinger won it and then framed the murder on him, something like that, but it seems that I was wrong. But that's not the point though, the point is that it's another Valyrian weapon.
Dagger is not a very useful weapon in a battle though, I guess Tyrion is the one that would get it the end (oh sweet justice) as it at least suits his size
Yes she did, with a Dragonglass spear i beleive.
Only Valerian steel or Dragonglass work on the Walkers. Sam also killed one with dragon glass ages ago (John found it north of the wall).
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I don't think that we've seen more than 13 of them in the same place (the baby scene)
Plus, 3 are dead (maybe more and I don't remember) - Sam killed one, Jon too and one died in the Raven cave.
So yeah, alongside some pieces of dragonglass here and there and possibly dragon's igneous breath Valyrian steel can make a difference.
On a separate note - I think it's fair to say that everyone, including me, assumed that they made another White Walker out of this baby. But now, when we saw how they are made (dragonglass through the heart), are we still thinking the same? Do they have the power to create white walkers a different way or did they made something/someone else out of him?
It is Tyrion's dagger. Littlefinger lost it to him betting on a tourny, though obviously gets it back from Catelyn.
No, that's just the story that Littlefinger told to Catelyn Stark so as to frame Tyrion. Tyrion bet on his brother and lost since Jaimie was unhorsed by Loras Tyrell. The dagger was Baelish's.
I think the little blondie shite is playing the game of thrones and he's really good in it. Let analyse what would have happened if he didn't step up. Jamie would have lead a Tyrell army against the High sparrow killing everyone on the way. That wouldn't only endangered Margaery's life and probably caused a holy war but would also pissed Kevan up (his son would have been butchered) and made the Lannisters look weak (they had to rely on the Tyrells). That's particularly significant since Kevan is currently leading the Westerlands
Instead the boy saved Margaery's life hence the alliance between Lannisters and Tyrells, he stole the Westerlands from Kevan's hands and handled it to a much more loyal subject (ie Jamie - the true born heir of CR). He also stopped a potential holy war against his crown.
Zombie Gregor will beat any challenger to a pulp saving Cersei from misery and Tommen will pounce against the High Sparrow if and when he's ready
Instead the boy saved Margaery's life hence the alliance between Lannisters and Tyrells, he stole the Westerlands from Kevan's hands and handled it to a much more loyal subject (ie Jamie - the true born heir of CR). He also stopped a potential holy war against his crown.
Zombie Gregor will beat any challenger to a pulp saving Cersei from misery and Tommen will pounce against the High Sparrow if and when he's ready
Interesting, I must have missed that. I take it that is explained somewhere in the show?
The show has quietly built the Pope guy as a great character. Loved his smug face at the end of the episode.
I can't wait for Jamie to kill him I assume it will be him, since they built up their hatred for each other on one on ones quite a bit.
I assume it will be him, since they built up their hatred for each other on one on ones quite a bit.Speculation question:
Could it be that Bran caused the mad king to become mad and say 'burn them all" repeatedly... referring to white walkers...?
There's a video on YouTube of Bran's visions from the last episode in slow motion. Watch that for clues.
so she is going to need 1000 ships to get her folks over to the fight... lucky that iron chappie is building exactly that many (he must have guessed she was about to gather a huge dothraki horde... how convenient
Magic.
Little finger teleported a few episodes ago, they're all getting very good at it.
Is the option of Trial by combat guaranteed - cant the king (under the guidance of the High Sparrow)change the rules so that the accused have to face trial themselves not by ordering 2 proxys to fight to the death... if Jamie is miles away he cant talk the king out of it and the queen probably wouldnt mind seeing Cerci actually stand trial...
she gets found guilty then the sparrow declares tommen a bastard and takes power himself?
she gets found guilty then the sparrow declares tommen a bastard and takes power himself?
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Obviously not - it's a ritual that's been around forever and it has more to do with the Gods than with the King himself. You saw how the people reacted when Tyrell's tried to interfere with the Faith - now imagine the new King with questionable provenance says "feck the Gods, I'll know better" and changes one of the oldest rules in the book?
Spoilered just in case - not anything to do with the story or future speculation, just the upcoming plans for HBO's season renewals of GoT & episode length:
Apparently the upcoming seasons will be shorter than the usual 10 episodes & there's only 13 episodes left in total after this season. Not sure how they'll fit everything in if that's true:
http://www.gamesradar.com/game-of-thrones-season-7-will-be-a-lot-shorter-than-normal/
http://www.gamesradar.com/game-of-thrones-season-7-will-be-a-lot-shorter-than-normal/
Not surprising. It's a very expensive show. Doesn't each episode have a $10m budget?
i think Rome was 10M per episode, and that was 10 years ago. (GOT is like 6 per episode)
Unless they are really loosing a lot of money vs Netflix and internet streams/torrentz, it shouldn't be a budget issue, but a creative one.
HBO is pretty quick to kill shows when they decide enough is enough and they cant keep up with the quality of previous seasons.