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So what does the big woman do to Melisandre when they eventually meet at Castle Black? She was the one who gave birth to the shadow that killed Renly.
Is Brienne even aware of her though, all she knows is that the shadow had the face of stannis, and she has killed him..
 


Roose: Thanks to you the False King Stannis Baratheon is dead.

Roose: Do you know who struck the killing blow?

Ramsey: No.

Roose: A shame. I'd reward the Man.

Wow, that completely passed me by. You know a lot of big characters die in this show, when all that gets is a passing comment.
 
Wow, that completely passed me by. You know a lot of big characters die in this show, when all that gets is a passing comment.
yeah I was expecting more. When I heard it I was expecting to see him flayed on a cross or something but no the show just moved on.
 
So what does the big woman do to Melisandre when they eventually meet at Castle Black? She was the one who gave birth to the shadow that killed Renly.

What would happen if Jon or Sansa found out the part she played in Rob's death? 3 Leaches she burned and now all 3 are dead.
 
Thanks for that info man. Maybe in later seasons they become relevant again?

Doubt it at this stage, with season 7/8 being a combined 13 episodes. Have just started to read the books myself, adds a lot of the depth and reasoning behind some of the decisions you see critiqued in this thread, and I hear Dorne isn't as woeful either!
 
I've never watched a single minute of this other than tv adverts, is it really that good?, seems like this and BB have passed me by lol
 


Roose: Thanks to you the False King Stannis Baratheon is dead.

Roose: Do you know who struck the killing blow?

Ramsey: No.

Roose: A shame. I'd reward the Man.

Yeah I remember that but after Nedd, Catelyn, Robb, Oberyn.... even a cameo character like Tristan getting a send off etc it was such a low key exit

I can't think of why Brienne would have spared him but maybe it should have been done better
 
Doubt it at this stage, with season 7/8 being a combined 13 episodes. Have just started to read the books myself, adds a lot of the depth and reasoning behind some of the decisions you see critiqued in this thread, and I hear Dorne isn't as woeful either!
Aargh. Thought all seasons would be 10 episodes each. Guess not! Brilliant tv series though. Love it.
 
It's awesome that Snow is back, but then I don't think he warranted a death in the first place. It just seemed to be a bit of bottle job imo.
 
So what does the big woman do to Melisandre when they eventually meet at Castle Black? She was the one who gave birth to the shadow that killed Renly.

Oh you best believe Brienne knows she was involved.



That's her on the left (right of Renly) with the helmet obscuring her face.
 
The Userper Rob Stark, The Userper Joffrey Baratheon and now The Userper Balon Greyjoy. Stannis and Melisandre used Gendry's blood inside leeches to send magic to kill them.

Ah ok, thanks. I forgot about that. Maybe she should keep that (and the whole child burning thing) need to know.
 
I think somehow someone (Sam tarly??) will find a cure for Greyscale and she will end up setting her Queendom in valeria (perhaps she probably via tyrion will trade John snow a dragon for the cure otherwise I don't see ice zombies vs dragons happening)

I've been thinking he was going to figure out something to do with the battle against the White Walkers but that could be a shout, it'd be sad that Shireen didn't live to see it though :(.

I've thought that would be the best result for her for a while now. She's portrayed as a potential savour for common people but her ambition to be queen is rooted in her mad Dad's bloodline, her pack of fire breathing monsters, her army of formerly enslaved eunuchs and her mad brother's obsession. She's never even seen Westeros afaik. If she went to Westeros, it'd be as a foreign conqueror not a liberator.

Plus it's too obvious. Everytime she looks like she's in trouble, something bails her out. Her becoming queen would be a bit of an anti climax imo. I'm hoping her current storyline doesn't result in her just becoming Queen of all Dothraki because dragons (or something).

Yeah, and these Dothraki just so happen to have a fleet of ships.

I think she'll have some say in the fate of Westeros, the dragons have to come into play but like you said she'd be a conqueror and perhaps she will learn from the mistakes of her father and not be consumed by lust for power. Having Tyrion to act as a negotiator with potentially a Westeros united by Snow/Starks makes sense too.
 
Part of the problem about taking it from the books, is they can't fit everything in, where I believe Beric and the brotherhood without banners have a much biiger part? Seem like it won't be in the show though.

Thanks for that info man. Maybe in later seasons they become relevant again?

@Cina don't want to bother you but they're doing it again Cina
 
It really wasn't. But I've spoilered it anyway bro. Don't want to spoil anything for anyone, especially intentionally.

Cheers appreciate it, it can all get a bit petty at times but we've had some right twerps in this thread over the years and sometimes it's better to be overcautious.
 
Cheers appreciate it, it can all get a bit petty at times but we've had some right twerps in this thread over the years and sometimes it's better to be overcautious.
No worries man. i understand. Im just watching the series and know as much as the next man. Actually, probably even a bit less because I didn't really watch season 1 with that much interest.
 
Don't see how any if that could be considered spoilers. I haven't even read the books. Just stating the obvious that not all from the books can be transferred to the series.

And then your post mentions something about them and the role of some characters, I don't know if you've read them, or if you're talking from a position of knowledge or not but the phrasing of the post definitely implied you knew something.

You could have easily reworded what you said without mentioning the source material and there would have been no issue.
 
If anyone has some nagging questions about last episode, there is a link in the spoiler. His channel does a load of videos on this stuff. But I must warn, it is kind of spoilery- he mentions theories about the episode 3 trailer and about Jon Snow's origins etc etc.

 
From memory the Wildlings were weakened but still a threat.

In my view, the whole point about Stannis and his failures is that despite his
a) claim to the throne
b) military acumen (supposed)
c) strength of army
d) Religious zeal

He doesn't have the street smarts & cunning to win the "game".

Totally agree on Stannis. Found his arc rather amusing. So much screen-time, so much build up and by the end such little fecks were given.

What if they didn't dispose of Stannis properly, and he comes back as a White Walker, commanding their armies under the Night King?
 
I havne't read the book, but looks like they adore stanis

In the show he's a pussy, he's a shit tactician not some heralded warlord I assume he was, and he's got the charisma of a wooden log, he got a well served death at the end of a woman.