So, I suppose no one on the ship noticed Trystane has a massive hole in his head? You know, connect the dots, realize that there are teleporting bad-pussay patrol members on the boat? Nah, nevermind. That show is awesome.
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Isn't the point of that, from a writing point of view, that as she's a protagonist we are following it from her perspective and we're supposed to share the shock with her.
It's a bit daft if we have to know all the twists before hand or else claim it "convenient writing".
All of the Dorne section is so badly written, I can only assume they waited to kill him once Jamie had left. We saw no reaction to Lannister girls death by Trystane, just him painting a useless stone when her body had already left the boat. Bizarre.
Why exactly did the woman wait so long to kill the king anyway? What had changed? Why not kill him earlier so she could then kill two Lannisters rather than just the one? Seriously crap writing.
What happened to those dogs by the way? They just kind of vanished when Brienne arrived.
Was she shocked? I didn't get that at all... I got that she knew exactly that they wouldn't be able to do anything to her because of who she was (Didn't she say something along the lines of "You won't do anything to me" or something like that).
I mean, it's more something that I found funny then being outright terrible or anything... just made the whole scene seem a bit silly (the Mad Bantz between those two Dothraki folks didn't exactly help either).
Whip pussay: "You're a greedy bitch, you know that?!"
This was so out of place. Like it was from a cheap action-comedy flick. I'm still cringing. It's not only bad because of the line itself and the delivery, but the entire situation was absurd. They just murdered their relative with whom they grew up and had absolutely no justification for killing. It would've been somewhat acceptable in the grand scheme of things had they portrayed it as a difficult decision they had to make for the greater good, like the Snow assassination. But this... Ugh.
I actually don't think viewers realize how bad this whole storyline is. Everyone is slagging it off for the plot holes and the awful acting and dialogue but it still doesn't get anywhere near enough slack. This is a sackable offense from the writers, seriously. The scarce reasoning and motives they've presented to justify their made-up characters' actions are laughable.
This was so out of place. Like it was from a cheap action-comedy flick. I'm still cringing. It's not only bad because of the line itself and the delivery, but the entire situation was absurd. They just murdered their relative with whom they grew up and had absolutely no justification for killing. It would've been somewhat acceptable in the grand scheme of things had they portrayed it as a difficult decision they had to make for the greater good, like the Snow assassination. But this... Ugh.
I actually don't think viewers realize how bad this whole storyline is. Everyone is slagging it off for the plot holes and the awful acting and dialogue but it still doesn't get anywhere near enough slack. This is a sackable offense from the writers, seriously. The scarce reasoning and motives they've presented to justify their made-up characters' actions are laughable.
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No she's not.
Yeah, my thoughts as well.
Sorry man. Didn't mean for my speculation to spoil anything for anyone. I thought this was the spoiler thread? Sorry Pex, bud.
Pretty mental that the actress for one of the Sand Snakes, Obara, has a best actress Oscar nomination to her name.
People talking about the sand snakes on the boat, why are they on about teleporting?. They were not with the mum and other sister when they killed the king, how do we know they didn't set off with Tristan to protect him, then turned on him once they'd had word the king was dead?
They didn't leave with Trystane at the end of the last series:
youtu.be/XC5WKbj6F5s?t=4m12s
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They were standing right next to Ellaria Sand, when she was taking the antidote in last season's final episode. The ship was out of the harbour already.
I don't know if its what she's going for, or if its a happy coincidence. But I think it works for her sorta. Like, she's learning on the job and clearly really shit at it so she's trying to fake being authoritative, and not doing it very well, rather than being naturally so.
They didn't leave with Trystane at the end of the last series:
youtu.be/XC5WKbj6F5s?t=4m12s
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Ah OK thanks guys, for such a big show that's pretty disappointing. It's like because it's a new series previous stuff doesn't matter
Either spoiler that or just dont share it here please.
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It was like the scene off Team America where he approaches the al Qaeda. "Durka durka? Ahhhh durka durka, ya!"
I dunno what you're laughing at. It was perfectly reasonable and believable dialogue and I've had many such conversations. Just last week I had an email from a Nigerian prince that needed to borrow my bank account as his wasn't safe. I didn't believe him and told him so. Then he repeated that he is a Nigerian prince and I knew he was telling the truth and gave him my bank details. Just waiting for the money transfer now.
Might want to edit your quote as well in that case
The two sand snakes were standing with their mother and sister on the pier as Jaime, Trystane and soon to be dead Myrcelle set sail. Clearly their plan was already in action so I imagine, those two got in another boat immediately and set sail for Kings Landing. They could have followed out of sight and arrived no longer than an hour or so after Jaime et al.
Then Jaime arrives, and goes straight up to tell Cersei the bad news. Sensibly, he leaves Trystane on the boat rather than letting him anywhere near Cersei. The two girls sneak onto the boat and murder the silly young fella. His idiocy in turning his back on the one with the spear just further emphasises Ellaria's belief that they are weak and naive.
Then Jaime arrives, and goes straight up to tell Cersei the bad news. Sensibly, he leaves Trystane on the boat rather than letting him anywhere near Cersei. The two girls sneak onto the boat and murder the silly young fella. His idiocy in turning his back on the one with the spear just further emphasises Ellaria's belief that they are weak and naive.
Seems sensible. though on a TV show you usually have to show something happening or have some dialogue that explains it other wise it does seem to happen out of nowhere.
Good point
The only bit I didn't enjoy was the sand slags, just not at all invested in them.
Overall a good episode which caught up with almost everyone and still moved things along.
I thought the justification for killing John was nonsense: "I didn't agree with what the boss, (who i am sworn to obey) was doing, so i killed him. Whats wrong with that lads? I think im a great candidate to be the new boss".
Im still expecting John to come back. And the wildlings to come and feck sh1t up.
I cant seeing that new Kahl character lasting long, his people openly contradict him.
Overall a good episode which caught up with almost everyone and still moved things along.
I thought the justification for killing John was nonsense: "I didn't agree with what the boss, (who i am sworn to obey) was doing, so i killed him. Whats wrong with that lads? I think im a great candidate to be the new boss".
Im still expecting John to come back. And the wildlings to come and feck sh1t up.
I cant seeing that new Kahl character lasting long, his people openly contradict him.
I had no idea that scene happened in or near Kings Landing..
Am I the only one who's looking forward to Arya's character development?
Using logic and a basic knowledge of statistics, I am going to guess "No".
I am, kinda, but i think they have bern dragging it out far too much already.
didn't see it discussed much in the thread, apart from the standard "who gives a damn about Arya being blind" response. The smallest characters tend to be the biggest game changers.. looking forward to the young Starks this season.
"On second thoughts, let's not go to Westeros - it is a silly place."
If Jon Snow come back to life as a puppet of some other person (Melisandre or the White Walkers or Bran or whomever), it would be the least GoT thing ever.
The great thing about this show is that it defies the long held conventions of television drama.
Bringing back the character just so the actor can stay on the show would be a terrible thing to do. I, for one, hope that GRRM sticks to his book writing principles and gives no fecks about the popularity of Kit Harrington.
The great thing about this show is that it defies the long held conventions of television drama.
Bringing back the character just so the actor can stay on the show would be a terrible thing to do. I, for one, hope that GRRM sticks to his book writing principles and gives no fecks about the popularity of Kit Harrington.
I'm not sure you're serious. What makes you think GRRM would decide the faith of his character based on the popularity of the actor that plays him in the TV adaptation of his book?
Pressure from the network. He doesn't have a written novel to fall back on anymore. Studio executives feck everything up if you give them a chance.
I wouldn't worry about that. Whatever happens to Jon Snow has been decided a long time ago, certainly before the actor was even cast.
He'd better not come back possessed. I'd rather a whole new character than that.
No you dont get it. They're bad ass biatches that can mix it with the best warriors in Westeros.
Martin has even told of when he was talking to the actors excited about the next season his inner voice is saying with glee "haha yeah, you're dead you cnut"
Or something similar
I thought it was a typical season opener. Some closure, essentially groundwork laid for the rest of the season.
The necklace could be a red herring.....the potion might be the key.
Wonder if 'old' Melisandre *shudders* is that fortune teller we saw from last season? Moggy or Maggy?
The necklace could be a red herring.....the potion might be the key.
Wonder if 'old' Melisandre *shudders* is that fortune teller we saw from last season? Moggy or Maggy?