TBH, I kinda agree, in the sense you cant call it a plot hole until everything is explained (or finished) to see the true progression. There are so many ways it can be explained away.
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TBH, I kinda agree, in the sense you cant call it a plot hole until everything is explained (or finished) to see the true progression. There are so many ways it can be explained away.
I thought that was second to "Is Gendry still ... rowing?"
I genuinely can't remember where he was going. They should just forget Dorne and concentrate on the important things.
Davos told him to go back to King's Landing.
Great first episode! It really set the tone of the new season. I can't wait for the next one.
She's so fit though bro.
Carice van Houten ruined forever 
I just downloaded subtitles so the wife can understand it better. Are they all auto-translated shite?
The geographical terrain in essos is something quite special. That is some trek for Danaerys being flown out the of the Mediterrean sun soaked streets of Mereen and being dumped in the windy highlands of Scotland thanks to her Dragon. Then walks snail paced barefooted into the grand canyons of fecking Utah. Ser Mormont of course following closely behind in this vastly Large but small and peculiar world of Essos!. Who needs a map eh.
Anywhere to watch online that has the subtitles in English? The one I watched on was Russian or some shit so I basically missed the whole Danaerys part, it was probably a load of bollocks anyway but I'd still like to know what they were saying.
Talked about fecking her right in the pussy. Trust me thats about it.
I had the same but I got the gist. I'm assuming they we're going to feck her and then she told them who she was and about Khal Drogo.
Khal Moro also tells her that she will live out the rest of her days with the other Khal's widows in Vaes Dothrak.
Cheers. Yeah I figured they were talking about fecking her or something and then she started talking the language and said something about Khal Drogo.Yeah she basically says she is Khal Drogo's wife, they don't believe her, so she repeats it and they do believe her.
After last night's episode I've just thought of another possible way that Jon Snow and Melisandre could be connected in the plot. I'm not going to even say in case I'm right.
Possession? lol. that'll be pretty weird if it happens.
But Jon snow definitely still has some part to play
What's with the Dothraki hate? I love Dothraki dialogues and scenery.
They get boring after a while, all hype but nothing solid. We get it that danny will come with her dragons sometimes to the westerooo, but her venture seems very detached and looks like a different set of story.
at least for me
Wow, now we know which Game Of Thrones episode Rooney likes the most.
There needs to be some explaining if its just the necklace.
I'm just speculating here but it might not be the necklace.
I think the Rhillor knight guy who could bring his pal back to life couldn't actually explain how he suddenly could do it.
Maybe Melisandre's appearance is not something she has control over. Could it be that with her wavering faith, her powers were being taken away from her?
Stannis didn't win the battle against the Boltons despite sacrificing his daughter.
I think the Rhillor knight guy who could bring his pal back to life couldn't actually explain how he suddenly could do it.
Maybe Melisandre's appearance is not something she has control over. Could it be that with her wavering faith, her powers were being taken away from her?
Stannis didn't win the battle against the Boltons despite sacrificing his daughter.
I'm not focusing too much on the necklace, they will likely make you focus on things that are meaningless. The vials of potion however...and I think the theory of her own sacrifice is probably spot on. I did enjoy the episode, went a bit too quick though.
I'm surprised she was so shocked to see him dead, anyone who knows the nights watch will know that you only come out of service if you die...(now their watch has ended) now he can do what the hell he wants when they resurrect him. Which will explain him fighting at winter fell.
Bit shocked by naked granny. Can't wait for more dragons
I'm surprised she was so shocked to see him dead, anyone who knows the nights watch will know that you only come out of service if you die...(now their watch has ended) now he can do what the hell he wants when they resurrect him. Which will explain him fighting at winter fell.
Bit shocked by naked granny. Can't wait for more dragons
I think that's the most likely scenario - sacrifice herself to the Lord of Light to resurrect Jon Snow.
At the moment, only 2 things are interesting me. The Wall story and Cersei and what she'll do. The rest is (at the moment at least) absolutely rubbish.
I find it a bit tedious to be honest. But I think it's more cos Daenery's is an awful actress.
I enjoyed the episode though thought they got the right amount of each character. For me the least interesting stuff is Dorne and Daenery's so the less of that the better.
Jon Snow will get resurrected when the Nights Watch overpower Sir Davos to get, and burn his body.
Hence all the fire, Lord of light and Targaryen references.
Well, either that or Melisandre will somewhat resurrect him herself, through sacrificing her own life - hence the ancient appearance. She's traded her remaining years with the Lord of Light, to give them to Jon Snow.
I'm clutching now.
Hence all the fire, Lord of light and Targaryen references.
Well, either that or Melisandre will somewhat resurrect him herself, through sacrificing her own life - hence the ancient appearance. She's traded her remaining years with the Lord of Light, to give them to Jon Snow.
I'm clutching now.
I just don't want to believe he's dead. Apparently they were shooting some Tower of Joy footage for this season. Surely this has to be linked to Jon Snow.
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Don't do that.
This is exactly what I thought would happen, but with Eddison going to get help (from the wildlings I'm guessing) I'm not 100% this will still happen and it's seeming more likely that Melisandre will play a part in his resurrection.
It's far too obvious he'll come back, why barricade themselves in the room with his body if nothing was going to come from it.
Agreed. I just posted this elsewhere about the drop in quality since the start of the previous season...
Emilia Clarke's acting technique seems to be to sneer through every bit of dialogue. Someone should tell her that's not the way to look authoritative.
QualityThey even found a way to burn the boats that would have gotten her and her army across the sea. It all points to more time wasted, it is getting so tedious. Waiting a whole year for so little development.
Great
I must admit I cringe whenever she says anything in a language other than English. Other actors can convince you that they're conversing in a foreign tongue but with her you don't sense anything other than she's spouting complete jibberish.
Watched it last night:
The Good
- Dr. Onion (the show's last remaning hero) calling the shots up at the Wall was pretty great. More screentime for him will mean good things.
- All the wall stuff was good in fact... to the point where I just want GoT to be about the politics of The Wall at this point
- Mellisandre and her unrelenting need to get her breasts out all the time. I'm fairly certain at this point she just whacks her clothes off in the middle of normal scenes and the directors are just rolling with it.,, as if they told her "Right, in this scene, take the neckless off in front of the mirror" and she reads it as "Take the neckless of in front of the mirror naked, got it".
- Brianne finally hooking up with Sansa, something which should have happened last season
- Tyrion and No-Penis-Man walking around talking about what a shit queen Danerys is... this should have been the only walking and talking scene of the episode.
- Cerci being all sad and shit.
The Bad
- Absolutely everything to do with Dawn. The acting is god awful (like soap-opera levels of awful), the plot is boring and it's all just really shit.
- The sandsnakes... the worst characters and actors in GoT history? probably... they make Sansa Stark look emmy worthy.
- Religious nutcases... who cares
- Arya being blind... I care even less
- Random "No-Rape" loopholes that apparently come with being the widow of a Khal... (that's conveinent aye?) ... and random stipulations that also come with being the same widow.
- Lord Friendzone and Not-Blonde-Andy-Carroll walking (well, riding) and talking about stuff.
So overall, I'd say a fairly average start to the series...
The Good
- Dr. Onion (the show's last remaning hero) calling the shots up at the Wall was pretty great. More screentime for him will mean good things.
- All the wall stuff was good in fact... to the point where I just want GoT to be about the politics of The Wall at this point
- Mellisandre and her unrelenting need to get her breasts out all the time. I'm fairly certain at this point she just whacks her clothes off in the middle of normal scenes and the directors are just rolling with it.,, as if they told her "Right, in this scene, take the neckless off in front of the mirror" and she reads it as "Take the neckless of in front of the mirror naked, got it".
- Brianne finally hooking up with Sansa, something which should have happened last season
- Tyrion and No-Penis-Man walking around talking about what a shit queen Danerys is... this should have been the only walking and talking scene of the episode.
- Cerci being all sad and shit.
The Bad
- Absolutely everything to do with Dawn. The acting is god awful (like soap-opera levels of awful), the plot is boring and it's all just really shit.
- The sandsnakes... the worst characters and actors in GoT history? probably... they make Sansa Stark look emmy worthy.
- Religious nutcases... who cares
- Arya being blind... I care even less
- Random "No-Rape" loopholes that apparently come with being the widow of a Khal... (that's conveinent aye?) ... and random stipulations that also come with being the same widow.
- Lord Friendzone and Not-Blonde-Andy-Carroll walking (well, riding) and talking about stuff.
So overall, I'd say a fairly average start to the series...
Those are in the book.
They may well be, but this is a TV show, not a book... and in the world of the TV show, it seemed incredibly conveinent despite us never hearing about any stipulations/perks/laws that came with being the widow of a Kahl.
I think he will be ressurected but lose the support of the wildlings who will be wary of him because he is now an undead.
They needed to hint at that or at least mention it back in Season 1.
At least the Sansa storyline will be good when she finally gets to Castle Black, which shouldnt take too long now they have horses. Im actually wondering if thats how the Castle Black events end given how the entire North would bend the knee to her im guessing she'll stroll in and sort shit out. Then we'll have the Wildlings led by Sansa and any allies from the North remaining to take on the Boltons. Going to be great watching that all unfold!
See I find the opposite - I find that she's absolutely awful when she's speaking English.