Oops didn't see that post but yeah exactly.
I really don't understand this aversion to critical thinking on here at times.
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Oops didn't see that post but yeah exactly.
I really don't understand this aversion to critical thinking on here at times.
They never really explained it very well did they. @RedSky.
I feel like this whole fifth season would have been so much better if the action had been drawn out much more, rather than saved up for a big finale. If it turns out that the shock element of that finale (Jon dying) is actually a red-herring, then it'll be incredibly disappointing. In earlier seasons, GOT never resorted to that kind of thing to create hype. It simply didn't need to and the writers should try and recapture that, I think.
There were a handful of small changes I could think of from the top off my head, which might have improved the last episode. For example, since we could all predict that Brienne was going to run off after Stannis right before Sansa lit the candle, that could have been done better. An alternative might have been that Brienne did see Sansa light the candle and then had to make a choice between the vow she made to protect the Stark children and the vow she made to protect Renly Baratheon. That would have been a far more interesting dynamic and would have created fan-debate which actually had some importance to the continuing story arcs. In reality, what we got was like something from any predictable Hollywood film.
I still enjoyed this season, but it's definitely taken a dip in quality, in my opinion.
There were a handful of small changes I could think of from the top off my head, which might have improved the last episode. For example, since we could all predict that Brienne was going to run off after Stannis right before Sansa lit the candle, that could have been done better. An alternative might have been that Brienne did see Sansa light the candle and then had to make a choice between the vow she made to protect the Stark children and the vow she made to protect Renly Baratheon. That would have been a far more interesting dynamic and would have created fan-debate which actually had some importance to the continuing story arcs. In reality, what we got was like something from any predictable Hollywood film.
I still enjoyed this season, but it's definitely taken a dip in quality, in my opinion.
People aren't the same people unless you can prove it. I liked the pacing of the show to begin with, and at the end it seemed rushed. Last time I checked I was people.
People like complaining about people being people.
lol the pigeon thinks he's a person.
Screw you I have rights. Stop oppressing me.
We will get to the promised land, and all that.
In an interview, GRR Martin said that Targaryens aren't actually immune to fire. Apart from dragon fire obviously and the birth of Dany's dragons was a one off magical thing.
I actually like that idea better than what actually happened (how it happened). Shes sitting there waiting for days staring and the moment she leaves it lights up. I mean granted, the reason Sansa had a chance is because everybody was distracted with fight, which allowed Sansa time to get to the tower to light it without much attention, but even still, exactly two seconds after Brienne decides to turn away?
Saying that, its a minor part as from the overall story in the end, its one of the minor things I wont even remember.
When Tywin road into that castle the very second Gendry was about to be tortured to death was a big of a deal made out of it as the Brieene looking away thing?
He didn't get burnt by fire did he? He got suffocated in gold basically.. But I suppose he wasn't a "true dragon" like Dany is.
Perhaps in the books, but in the show they've more than made it seem that Danaery's is immune to heat/fire. She first got in the hot bath and showed no signs of pain, then picked up a dragon egg that had been on a fire without flinching, which the slave girl ended up dropping because it was so hot, and then of course walking into the fire.
@Adam-Utd There where other occasions when he was burnt by other stuff, like candle wax.
My understanding was that Viserys was not a "true" dragon, unlike Daenerys - after they killed him she remarked something like "No true dragon would be burnt that way" or something to that effect.
She did yes. I was just wondering why wasn't he a true dragon.
I guess some were born with it, some were not. No real obvious reasons.
Yeah - its a bit like the 'Targaryan madness' that seems to strike some of them but not others (due to excessive inbreeding mostly), or at least that is my take on it. Viserys had a bit of a case of the crazies, wouldnt surprise me if the two 'qualities' are somehow linked.
I think Dany is starting to display some of those traits too. Her speech with Tyrion about wanting to burn them all (or was it kill?) left me thinking she could turn into her father too
I've just started watching season one with my dad, who's never seen it before. I noticed that Benjen Stark tells Jon Snow that he might think differently about never producing children if, "he knew what it meant." I'd just never picked up on his bloodline stuff before really.
Also, the killer the Lannisters sent to murder Bran Stark after his fall is carrying a Valyrian steel dagger. It seems like there might be more of those than we first imagined after the Jon Snow incident at Hardhome.
Also, the killer the Lannisters sent to murder Bran Stark after his fall is carrying a Valyrian steel dagger. It seems like there might be more of those than we first imagined after the Jon Snow incident at Hardhome.
I think Dany is starting to display some of those traits too. Her speech with Tyrion about wanting to burn them all (or was it kill?) left me thinking she could turn into her father too
Yeah I had been wondering if she might end up going a bit crazy. GoT isnt one for black or white characters typically, and Dany has always been able to get away (so far) with being the ultimate good guy.
Could a book reader Pm me the answer to this question this please? Is it known in the books Who Jon Snows parents are? Just a yes or no answer please.
No need now I have the answer. Thanks.
No need now I have the answer. Thanks.
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He's the love child of Ghengis Khan and Queen Latifah.
Might need correcting, but isnt that dagger Little Fingers. Or he lost it and it ended up with Tyrion and it was stolen, or something like that. Hence why Tyrion was kidnapped (its been too long
)3 more episodes won't magically fix the writing.
Oh I agree its been particularly poor this season, I meant moreso that people struggle to follow some of the story lines and keep a track of everyone's whereabouts in such short time periods.
Its like Gendry, if he showed up now 90% of people would be like "oh, he's still alive? Where did he disappear to for 2 seasons?"
Uh oh. Would they even have the scripts for season 6 finished already?
Edited. I haven't actually read the article because I'm don't want to risk anything being spoiled. So there might be spoilers around the internet.
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Should probably put that in a spoiler, just in case.
Don't believe any of that leaked script crap. No doubt just a way to keep people talking and on their toes.
Because they're due to start filming in a months time. The overall scripts, plot outline and bible were probably completed in the winter early spring. The script is the starting point for all the different departments to beginning work in preparation, props, VFX, sound, locations, set design, casting, wardrobe all have to be ready for when it all starts next month.
he reads the books now, he has no reason to complain anymore.
one of us, one of us, one of us!
yeah how dare he read an acclaimed book!
Have the books and the series levelled out now then? By reading the books we won't learn any spoilers?
Finally watched the season finale. I feel as if it redeemed a fairly boring season with a episode which has me excited for the next season. The show is great in how it can redeem the most vile characters and make you feel sympathy for them, this was the definitely the case for Stannis and Cersei. I'm really pumped for Cersi just to town on the Sparrows and I thought it was great how they let Stannis go out with a bit of dignity.
Yeh they're at the same stage now.
Ok cool, might aswell read them too and see what the differences are.
Pretty much. As far as I remember, there's perhaps one or two spoilers left. On top of that, there's quite a few storylines which haven't appeared in the show at all and by this point, I doubt they will. There's actually a couple of things where the show has jumped ahead of the book now.
But for all intents and purposes, they're at the same place now.
Really ? I thought he had a fairly underwhelming and poor death. Sacrificing his daughter proved pointless, Ramsay and his "20 good men" hurt his army badly and the worst part is that he was killed by Brienne when he had no chance to fight for his life...
The whole battle was definitely underwhelming after such a build up. But I thought it was great how they gave him an honorable death, he stood his ground and managed to kill the 2 younger Boltons when wounded. No other show would have given him after he had sacrificed his daughter. When Brienne charged him to death you could see how he knew he deserved to die and there was a degree of humanity and honesty about his acceptance. In that moment I did feel sympathy for him. where he clearly doesn't deserve it after killing his daughter and that's why the whole series is so great you can go from disliking some one to feeling sorry for him in a instant. I personally thought it was a great scene.
Christ you still don't get it do you? People read this thread with the expectation that people posting in it have a certain level of knowledge as proscribed by the rules. Anyone who posts in here with information explicitly forbidden by said rules is a cnut. Not only because of the spoiler aspect but because the people who read this thread and follow the rules have to constantly worry about stuff being spoiled.
As I've started to read the books, I won't be posting in here anymore. As the rules say. They aren't complicated. Now feck off and stop tagging me.