I just sort of zoned out in the office and started imagining Ramsay torturing and attempting to flay a WW.
Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended
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I like watching old clips like this. Stannis did basically betray everybody like she said. As somebody said recently, maybe Stannis role wasnt to be king but to start the unity of all against the real threat (White Walkers). He was the only one who took it seriously.
"This woman will lead him into a war he cant win..."
"your daughter must be with us, the lord needs her"
Also I cant remember, what happened to Balon Greyjoy?! Wasnt he one of the named leeches?
The Greyjoy/Iron Island stuff seemed to finish up after Yara's failed rescue attempt.
Thought the last episode was all a bit shit. The show is just playing on shock value and cliffhangers now and I really don't care about it. So many ongoing plots that lead to nothing or underwhelming and obvious finales. Things need to start getting tied up and the story needs to move along now.
Thinking about rewatching this from the 1st season. Is it worth it?
Yes.
Just finished watching season 5. I actually thought that it was pretty good up until the final episode. Mainly because I refuse to believe that Stannis and Jon are dead, because if thats the case then I think both of their deaths were so anti climatic and the show runners have fecked up. Their deaths deserve the same impact as the red or purple wedding, not a cutaway and a dragged out stab orgy.
I don't think Stannis' death was anti-climatic, he got the death I think his character deserved. He sacrificed everything to claim the throne and in the end what did it get him? He's just another dead body slumped up against a tree among a thousand others. Fitting end for him.
If Jon isn't being resurrected, then yeah, I'd agree with his death being anti-climatic.
If Jon isn't being resurrected, then yeah, I'd agree with his death being anti-climatic.
Agree with this, particularly about Stannis.
Sure, Stannis' death itself isn't anti climatic but the way they filmed it was pretty lazy imo. The pacing of that entire last episode just seemed completely rushed.
The Stannis story was built up from season 1 and went on through the whole series, only to end with a whimper and possibly killed by the most useless character in the show with very little to show for it.
I'd say that was pretty anti-climatic.
I'd say that was pretty anti-climatic.
How else should Stannis have died?
Blood spewing from his neck,
with a bunch of random sex in the background
The way he died isn't the problem for me, it's how the show presented it. His story has been built up for four seasons and his eventual downfall was thrown in twenty minutes into an episode after a fast cut away from the start of the battle, and his death was another fast cut away as Brienne swung her sword. It just felt horribly rushed, like the whole of that final episode really.
Guys i think we need to stop downloading the episodes and start watching in HBO.
The producers have clearly take over the show now and if no money flows in, i think next season gonna be just as rushed as this season.
The producers have clearly take over the show now and if no money flows in, i think next season gonna be just as rushed as this season.
Flaming arrow through the heart would've been cool considering his sigil.
Speak for yourself, I'm a nice guy who buys my products
haha i have HBO subscription as well, but no HBO HD... i usually wait a bit and watch the FHD rips on Monday instead of watching them live on sunday night.
Being supporting HBO to make better TV shows since 1996.
Pretty sure it's HBO's biggest money maker of all time. Also, seeing as Sky have exclusive rights (which is bollox) and I'm with UPC, I have to torrent it. I do however have the season 1-2 DVD, season 3 DVD and season 1-4 blu-ray.
At the end of a story with some point to it maybe? Think about all we've seen, the iron bank, his brother and daughter, the lord of light. And that's how they end it.
It was all very pointless. Of course, that's if he's actually dead.
Has there been any rumours of them ending with a film because after looking at that cgi in episode 9 it looks like they might need a bigger budget to do justice to a full on dragons v whitewalkers finale?
Compared to the first two season, everything is terribly rushed now. It's a shame, why not slow it down and have a longer series?
I agree the last season few episodes were a little rushed, especially the last.
but on the other hand, I couldn't bare the stannis stuff any longer than it already was. Arya was getting the same. Glad what is done is don,now we can see some development in the story.
but on the other hand, I couldn't bare the stannis stuff any longer than it already was. Arya was getting the same. Glad what is done is don,now we can see some development in the story.
Only reason I asked is because a lot of people seem annoyed that he was killed by brienne. I do agree it was rushed. Only thing I had a problem with was how it transitioned from him being in the front line to somehow being in some random forest where Brienne magically also happens to appear. Seemed too convenient.
Yeah. I suppose the main issue for me is it's a storyline that has gone on for the entire series, but gone nowhere. It's like the Sansa/Eyrie storyline from last season, sometimes they just seem to go nowhere. As for Brienne, she just seems so shoe-horned into the situation too and useless at anything, so for her to end both the Hound and Stannis story arcs is just stupid.
Who is next on Brienne's hit-list?
The Hound ✓
Stannis ✓
Ramsey?
Roose?
The entire Bolton army?
The Hound ✓
Stannis ✓
Ramsey?
Roose?
The entire Bolton army?
both the same way, both kinda dying off screen lol.
That and how she left just as Sansa lit the candle was all to "convenient timing" which wasnt needed. I didnt have many other problems with the finale. I do think a few scenes needed more time, could have added another 20 minutes or made it a twice as long finale and it could have worked (or better yet paced the season better cos there was a helluva a lot of stuff in the early part of the season not needed).
Saying that, the main complaints ive read have been with comparison to books. Books obviously have more leeway and more time to flesh things out. As has been mentioned early, it seems there was less material to work with for this season hence a few filler scenes. At least this season had one of my fav episodes from the whole series
Or Brienne is dead. She's pretty expendable right now?
When I started watching the season I thought that the writers had missed a great opportunity to have Sansa play with Littlefinger's affections. I mean, last season she figured out a way to control him because of his love for her mother and how he now saw her as a replacement - hence the hair colour, and we could have seen her developing into a manipulator for a couple of episodes, making us think that she's got the upper hand, before being sent to Winterfell to marry Ramsay. This crashing back to reality would have had more depth than just the classic "damsel in distress" that she's been since the start of the show.
And that's got me thinking about why this season doesn't sit well with me compared to the others; where's the manipulation? Where's the intrigue, or the game with devious plans going on in the background? Everything in this season was in the foreground. The Red and Purple Weddings were memorable because of the betrayal, not because of the shock value of a lead character getting killed, which seems to be missing this season. That's why Jon's death doesn't sit well with me - it was too obvious that the Crows, a bunch of murderers and rapists, were going to do something to him.
Still my favourite show though.
Part of the reason we have so many main characters, I think, is because Martin intends to kill off a whole lot of them. We've already seen plenty of seemingly 'main characters' die, there's no need to even list them, it's pretty obvious.
I think the writers view this as 'realistic', or at least 'realism'." The show clearly draws from fantasy, and so often in fantasy we get heroes that constantly survive any danger by 'sticking to their morals', ala one Aragorn son of Arathorn. Well, we saw what happens to moralists in this Machiavellian world, it seems to me Ned Stark was set up just to show that such man cannot survive.
I think the writers view this as 'realistic', or at least 'realism'." The show clearly draws from fantasy, and so often in fantasy we get heroes that constantly survive any danger by 'sticking to their morals', ala one Aragorn son of Arathorn. Well, we saw what happens to moralists in this Machiavellian world, it seems to me Ned Stark was set up just to show that such man cannot survive.
Stannis was the greatest living battle commander in the seven kingdoms and he died marching to siege a castle with a spattering of men, no food, no horses and no siege equipment. Also the Bolton army seemed to have hundreds of horses, wouldn't his scouts have reported the overwhelmingly massive army travelling to Winterfell? surely this information would have got to him
Jon Snow seemingly backed Stannis' attempt to liberate Winterfell but forgot to mention that he knows that Bran and Rickon are still alive- which would have been valuable information to breaking houses away from the Boltons.
Between how they handled Stannis and the Dorne stuff the showrunners should be made to do a walk of shame
Jon Snow seemingly backed Stannis' attempt to liberate Winterfell but forgot to mention that he knows that Bran and Rickon are still alive- which would have been valuable information to breaking houses away from the Boltons.
Between how they handled Stannis and the Dorne stuff the showrunners should be made to do a walk of shame
He lost half of his army and all of his cavalry, his psyche had plummeted, not only from that, but from sacrificing his daughter for a vision that never came, seeing his wife's corpse hanging from a tree. He'd completely lost the plot.
And Jon Snow doesn't know Bran & Rickon are alive, so how could he tell Stannis?
Pretty sure Sam told him, didn't he?
Anyway, we can just chalk it up to Jon thinking it might be a dick move to hand over the brothers of the King in the North to a guy who likes burning people with King's blood.
Just watched the episode.
feck feck feck!!!!!!!!! JON!!!!
feck feck feck!!!!!!!!! JON!!!!
are you totally sure that Stannis is dead? in a serie with so many bloody and violent deaths I was surprised that they suddenly cut the image .
I don't think he is you know. Like you say if they want to show somebody is dead they usually make it very clear. I reckon she will end up striking the tree and then saying how it doesn't feel right killing a weakened opponent or something. If not then it was awfully done.