Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

Cutting corners because they can't possibly fit all the story into the capacity they have. It is needs must. There are some cheesy lines and bad acting, but again, there are dragons and shape shifting assassins. It isn't Nordic noir.
That's the thing though - there has been plenty of time for some of the (interesting) underdeveloped story lines, but they've spent it on pointless shit. With the time spent on watching people travel or walking around in the same area "we didn't have enough episodes to properly develop this story" simply can't be used an as excuse really. And they clearly don't mind dragging out other story lines over several seasons if it suits them.
 
Fantasy writing is up in the air, that's why we can have debates and they nearly all be wrong!

However, what isn't in fantasy, is there's a clear difference between the tv show following the books and the tv show being in the hands more and more of the tv writers.
 
Message to one of the book readers:

Can you send me a yes/no reply to the following question... "is it known what happens to Jon Snow after the events from Episode 10".

I just want to know whether the Book readers can still spoil this storyline or not.
 
Message to one of the book readers:

Can you send me a yes/no reply to the following question... "is it known what happens to Jon Snow after the events from Episode 10".

I just want to know whether the Book readers can still spoil this storyline or not.
no
 
Message to one of the book readers:

Can you send me a yes/no reply to the following question... "is it known what happens to Jon Snow after the events from Episode 10".

I just want to know whether the Book readers can still spoil this storyline or not.
no

Yeah, I expected that. I'm beginning to think we are further along than we realise :lol:
 
Message to one of the book readers:

Can you send me a yes/no reply to the following question... "is it known what happens to Jon Snow after the events from Episode 10".

I just want to know whether the Book readers can still spoil this storyline or not.

No.

But the only thing to be wary of is that since there's more in the books, people may have more developed theories from info that was in the books, but not in the show. But there's not much that can spoil you about Jon's story, because anything done in the books that hasn't been done in Jon's storyline probably won't show up.
 
Oh and what the feck did Reek and that sour face biatch jump into? There wasnt a moat as far as I can tell and Im sorry but snow will not break that fall
 
I like how the females in the religious group wear hijab.


I think the religious dress is actually supposed to represent medieval Catholicism. With the females wearing a very basic habit of which there would have been many varitions depending on the order the nuns would have belonged to.

The men on the other hand are wearing loosely fitting brown robes similar in style to catholic monks from this time period.
 
What I guess has happened is that George has told the writers what he plans to happen to the characters. But the problem is that there's no build up to those key events. So the writers are having to invent the buildup and making a total hash of it. Before the writers had hundreds of pages of material to go through and work out a decent script/plan for each story. Now they have none of that material except bullet point events.

This is definitely what has happened. The TV writers are filling in the blanks and doing a poor job of it. It does not bode well for the coming seasons, and this latest one was pretty poor :(
 
Quite disappointed with this season compared to seasons 1-4.

The pacing of the season has been completely off, the first 5 episodes had way too much of the Arya story line, many scenes I felt wasted valuable time. It's more valuable when we only get 10 episodes per season. They've got a huge problem with trying to find key points that need to be seen and others that don't, the quantity of story arcs make this extremely difficult, You'd imagine next season will probably be the same as we still have many of the same stories on going. Actually now that I think of it, this season didn't have anything about Bran or The Brotherhood at all. I've a suspicion that we will most likely see both of them brought back to give us even more story lines to handle.

Anyway yeah, that last episode was thrown together, felt like they just crammed as much as possible into that hour when quite a few of them story arcs could of been spread out more evenly across the series.

I like the theories that Redsky & @Redlambs are posting here in the last few pages, your most likely correct. Lambs, you mentioned on the previous page about the Sansa rape scene and Shireen burning, did you mean that you felt they we're created solely for the TV Series (for shock) and not that for the books? Or did I misread it?
 
Season 6 is blatantly going to have some weird love story between Reek and Sansa.
Nah, she'll crawl to Castle Black with two broken legs where she'll be told Jon is dead, then there will be a long close up shot of her face while the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme plays in the background.
 
So much hyperbole regarding this season I'm literally sitting here chuckling to myself in astonishment. But I'm a fanboy so what would I know!
 
Quite disappointed with this season compared to seasons 1-4.

The pacing of the season has been completely off, the first 5 episodes had way too much of the Arya story line, many scenes I felt wasted valuable time. It's more valuable when we only get 10 episodes per season. They've got a huge problem with trying to find key points that need to be seen and others that don't, the quantity of story arcs make this extremely difficult, You'd imagine next season will probably be the same as we still have many of the same stories on going. Actually now that I think of it, this season didn't have anything about Bran or The Brotherhood at all. I've a suspicion that we will most likely see both of them brought back to give us even more story lines to handle.

Anyway yeah, that last episode was thrown together, felt like they just crammed as much as possible into that hour when quite a few of them story arcs could of been spread out more evenly across the series.

I like the theories that Redsky & @Redlambs are posting here in the last few pages, your most likely correct. Lambs, you mentioned on the previous page about the Sansa rape scene and Shireen burning, did you mean that you felt they we're created solely for the TV Series (for shock) and not that for the books? Or did I misread it?

Yeah. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but like I said, the reactions to the things that at least made sense (like Ned, Oberyn, Red Wedding, etc...) seemed more split than those to the sansa/shireen ones.

I'm not saying I don't think they happened in the books, but they certainly were far too made for tv for me. In that there's very little point or consequence of either. I dunno, it just seemed different to me as if everyone was shocked, not just us tv folks.

But I do tend to read into stuff like that, so I could be wrong.
 
That makes a lot of sense, thanks!

So it's true GRRM told them the gist and they are writing the rest themselves. I expect, obviously I suppose, the books to do it all far better!

Seems to be the case, I think @RedSky mentioned it earlier today that the writers probably have bullet points and have to try piece together the jigsaw themselves. It would explain why we've had a poorer season this time round, whereas seasons 1-4 was at their fingertips in detail if they wanted it.

As for the moments that have shocked people this season I really don't understand it tbh, right from the get go we had incest, rape and heads rolling and that all happened in the first 5 episodes I think :wenger: It went from there, to heads popping, to baby murders and now we've got burnings and walks of shame (not the sort we see these days ;) ).
 
Seems to be the case, I think @RedSky mentioned it earlier today that the writers probably have bullet points and have to try piece together the jigsaw themselves. It would explain why we've had a poorer season this time round, whereas seasons 1-4 was at their fingertips in detail if they wanted it.

As for the moments that have shocked people this season I really don't understand it tbh, right from the get go we had incest, rape and heads rolling and that all happened in the first 5 episodes I think :wenger: It went from there, to heads popping, to baby murders and now we've got burnings and walks of shame (not the sort we see these days ;) ).

Yeah, I suppose in terms of 'shocks' I meam what happens to what characters, rather than the nature of the actual event. If that makes sense.
 
Season 6 is blatantly going to have some weird love story between Reek and Sansa.

She's in for a shock when she tries downstairs so!

Quick question that just hit me about the battle between Ramsay and Stannis. The Boltons didn't have all those horses and men before that. Did Stannis's deserters join Ramsay?
 
Why are people blaming show? they're just following the books :lol:

I keep thinking this. People are kicking off with the producers, when up until this point, theyre pretty much just going off the books, as far as i can tell, and im not a book reader.

Unfortunately, Arya going blind and Jon Snow dying were spoiled for me in the space of a week just under a month ago, so it wasnt that shocking.