Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

That's what I want to know! It wasn't made very clear but you'd probably guess so.

Yeah it would make a lot of sense. Explains why Melisandre gave up so quickly and also why the Boltons suddenly got all Jonny Big Balls instead of hiding behind their walls. They definitely could have shown that better though.
 
So the snow has melted but Theon and Sansa will no doubt have been saved because they landed in some thick snow, ok.


You don't live in a country that has significant snow fall.

If you did, you would know that snow accumulates on the edges of buildings many times deeper than it does normally. It drifts up naturally and gets piled up through shoveling. Where do you think all the snow that accumulates on top of the battlements goes? Not inside.
 
In regards to Jon Snows parentage, i think we all know by now whats gonna happen there, without saying too much.

Probably no coincidence, that varys has ended up with Dany. You wouldnt bet against him knowing exactly who Jon Snows parents are, and what that could mean
 
Group thinking innit. Must be. It's not like it could *shockhorror* actually have been a bit of a poor season or anything.

It seems we are all in the same place, so why not have a bit of fun trying to guess?

Dorne was a bit shit, that's my only grievances. Maybe too much stuff being set up for season six? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Dorne was a bit shit, that's my only grievances. Maybe too much stuff being set up for season six? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah, I'm not one to be totally put off, I still enjoyed this season for the most part and that's part of the fun, guessing what comes next. But the things that did happen just seemed so poorly done compared to seasons past, that's more the gripe and hard to argue with tbf.
 
Re watched the final episode again and it was a bit better on second viewing.

I know some of the scenes we're a little too convenient, in particular the Brianne scene where she walked away the one time Sansa got a chance to light the candle. Makes sense really, Sansa made good of her opportunity to light the candle knowing Ramsey was going to battle Stannis, in the mean time Poddrick alerted to Brienne that Stannis and his 5000 troops were en route to the battle. With her history with Stannis she probably wanted to fulfil her stupid oath, which she did in the end.

Now I know the timing in the forest scene was a bit too convenient and rushed but the build up wasn't too bad.

Dany removing the ring looks like she removed the ring from her new husband Hizdahar. The army on the horses was definitely The Dothraki as they carried the same weapons as the dothraki from the earlier seasons. They will most likely find out about new marriage next season, makes sense storyline wise to add some tension to it.

With the size of the story being told I think we we're due a poor season, very difficult to adapt such a massive story into 10 episodes but I think we should hopefully get a much better season next year.

  • Cersei should be absolutely demented pretty much next year, more so with Frankenmountain by her side! We should probably see her wage a war firstly against the religious freaks and then against the Martell family. I think Jamie Lannister will also meet his ending soon as Cersei will blame him for the death of Myrcella.
  • Also, we haven't seen any more of Margery or Loras. I've a feeling Old Lady Tyrell will side with The Sparrows against Cersei?
  • Arya should continue her assassin training
  • I've a feeling the White Walkers will over take the wall and march further south. I'm wondering where the final battle with them will happen? I don't know the map too well, perhaps others could divulge?
  • Bran I think will get a similar story to what we've seen with Arya this season
  • As for Jon, god knows. I like the resurrection theories, but I'd also feel a bit cheated out of this seasons end in a way.
  • If Stannis lives, could it be possible the Brotherhood could save him? Thinking Milesandre could want him alive? Seems a bit far fetched I know but god knows its GoT.
This is all purely my own theories and it's probably all nonsense.
 
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  • Cersei should be absolutely demented pretty much next year, more so with Frankenmountain by her side! We should probably see her wage a war firstly against the religious freaks and then against the Martell family. I think Jamie Lannister will also meet his ending soon as Cersei will blame him for the death of Myrcella.
  • Also, we haven't seen any more of Margery or Loras. I've a feeling Old Lady Tyrell will side with The Sparrows against Cersei?
  • Arya should continue her assassin training
  • I've a feeling the White Walkers will over take the wall and march further south. I'm wondering where the final battle with them will happen? I don't know the map too well, perhaps others could divulge?
  • Bran I think will get a similar story to what we've seen with Arya this season
  • As for Jon, god knows. I like the resurrection theories, but I'd also feel a bit cheated out of this seasons end in a way.
  • If Stannis lives, could it be possible the Brotherhood could save him? Thinking Milesandre could want him alive? Seems a bit far fetched I know but god knows its GoT.
This is all purely my own theories and it's probably all nonsense.
Stannis seems to be this season's Hound with people theorising that he could still be alive. We didn't see the final blow connect but it's clear Brienne did kill him. What else was she going to do?

Also, I'm not usually one to nitpick but how the hell did Stannis make it back to the forest when he was at the front of his army when 1000 horses were charging at him?
 
Stannis seems to be this season's Hound with people theorising that he could still be alive. We didn't see the final blow connect but it's clear Brienne did kill him. What else was she going to do?

Also, I'm not usually one to nitpick but how the hell did Stannis make it back to the forest when he was at the front of his army when 1000 horses were charging at him?

Nah, I never liked him. Someone posted a listed of all the cnutish things he's done prior to burning his daughter alive and basically he's always been deserving of a horrible death. Thought I'd mention it because I know others do like him and suppose that's the only thing I can think of that could give them a glimmer of hope he is still alive. I agree with you, what else is she going to do in that situation? She's determined to complete all her oaths.

Stannis probably retreated, safe to say that is probably the only intelligent decision the "great commander" ever made.
 
It's about opinion. I don't agree either, but to each their own. Especially when he has seen all the others.
Yeah, fair enough. Game Of Thrones is a great show and is probably one of the best around at the minute but there's no way I'd place it near some of the ones he did mention.
 
Haven't seen a ton of shows but the only two I'd put in my top tier is GoT & The Wire. I enjoyed/enjoy True Detective, Breaking Bad, Lost, Better Call Saul, Daredevil etc but they just never engrossed me like the aforementioned two did/do.

But lets not turn this into a debate about who prefers what show.
 
Every time I think of what a douche Olly is, I then remember



He was justified in killing Ygritte, she killed his dad. And then tbf, his reasoning isnt all that bad to why he hated Jon Snow even if its short sighted. Jon was thinking of the bigger picture and needed numbers.
However Olly thinks, the people who helped kill and eat his parents, are now welcomed by the lord Commander.
 
I must admit, i'm getting to the point where I want to read up on spoilers as well. But i'm trying my hardest to resist. :lol:
Im gonna buy the books pretty soon i think. Only problem is, i hate reading books. #TvViewerProblems
 
That's what I want to know! It wasn't made very clear but you'd probably guess so.
Roose Bolton would never allow that, having Stannis' deserters in his own army to attack Stannis. Could've been a trick from Stannis to deceive him and start the battle with much more men on his side than Roose initially thought. Bolton is way too clever and cunning to be convinced that quick, imo.
 
I'm going to start thread banning/banning people who post book details in this thread. If you want to do that go to the book thread. In here best to pretend that the books don't exist.
 
Rubbish episode. season peaked at episode 8 battle

Also Olly has a really annoying face
 
The others I mentioned are great shows, but I've never been consistently engrossed by a series like I have GoT. Genuinely cannot get bored of it.

Honestly I can't put it over Breaking Bad as a TV show. I've read the books (I come in peace, first post here and would never do spoilers) so I've invested quite a bitof time to this series via books and TV. I feel the first 2 seasons were excellent and at times the 4th was too but the rest has been pretty meh. It honestly doesn't help them that they are only doing 10 episodes a season. Something like this needs at least 15 so the poilitics don't end up watered down.
 
Honestly I can't put it over Breaking Bad as a TV show. I've read the books (I come in peace, first post here and would never do spoilers) so I've invested quite a bitof time to this series via books and TV. I feel the first 2 seasons were excellent and at times the 4th was too but the rest has been pretty meh. It honestly doesn't help them that they are only doing 10 episodes a season. Something like this needs at least 15 so the poilitics don't end up watered down.

That's the problem for me. With the huge amount of material available to be used 10 episodes can only cover so much. 15 would be better but I guess the budget would be more spread out. Nonetheless I feel 10 per season simply cannot cover the whole story.
 
Honestly I can't put it over Breaking Bad as a TV show. I've read the books (I come in peace, first post here and would never do spoilers) so I've invested quite a bitof time to this series via books and TV. I feel the first 2 seasons were excellent and at times the 4th was too but the rest has been pretty meh. It honestly doesn't help them that they are only doing 10 episodes a season. Something like this needs at least 15 so the poilitics don't end up watered down.

That's the problem for me. With the huge amount of material available to be used 10 episodes can only cover so much. 15 would be better but I guess the budget would be more spread out. Nonetheless I feel 10 per season simply cannot cover the whole story.

Assuming youre a book reader, crimsonife? Perhaps the pair of you are looking at the series with a bias, knowing full well not everything is covered, and as such, feel your not getting the full experience whilst watching it? Im with ShadesOfTomato on this, best tv series ive ever watched. Feel Breaking Bad was great, but very overated.
 
Assuming youre a book reader, crimsonife? Perhaps the pair of you are looking at the series with a bias, knowing full well not everything is covered, and as such, feel your not getting the full experience whilst watching it? Im with ShadesOfTomato on this, best tv series ive ever watched. Feel Breaking Bad was great, but very overated.

Oh I agree wholeheartedly. My satisfaction with the show will always pertain to the books because it's the book characters I love the most. I'm actually quite sad I haven't been able to watch this series through the eyes of show watcher.

I do feel however that this season, Hardhome aside, was a let down. There were too many unexplained moments. For example how did Ramsay infiltrate Stannis' camp or how did Daario, Tyrion and Jorah not get destroyed by the numerous Harpy after Dany flew away. I just feel that longer seasons would leave less of this kind of stuff. Obviously they don't have the budget for it so it could never have been possible anyway.

I actually wasn't a huge fan of BB for the first 2 seasons but I feel that in terms of consistency of episode the last seasons of it have reached levels GOT hasn't yet.
 
My brother was a non-book reader until the end of season four - thought it was the best thing he'd ever watched. Earlier this year he read the books and he's since consistently picked holes in the TV show. I think it's fair to say that book readers see the program from quite a different perspective. Of course, the show cannot possibly provide the same levels of detail as the books and so it's going to be a bit of a let down in parts to many.

Honestly I can't put it over Breaking Bad as a TV show. I've read the books (I come in peace, first post here and would never do spoilers) so I've invested quite a bitof time to this series via books and TV. I feel the first 2 seasons were excellent and at times the 4th was too but the rest has been pretty meh. It honestly doesn't help them that they are only doing 10 episodes a season. Something like this needs at least 15 so the poilitics don't end up watered down.

I loved Breaking Bad but I found it very slow at times. Game of Thrones has me glued to the screen every second of every episode.

However, I do agree that more detail/episodes would be good. The Baratheon-Bolton war was particularly anti-climatic - built up for the whole of season 5 then lasted less than five minutes. Could have easily had an episode dedicated to it.
 
I read the books a long time ago but I've forgotten most of it, know the gist of it though. It's good but it's obvious they have had to cut and skip stuff.
 
@RedSky

Your theory is very similar to mine, although your one makes more sense dramaticly to me. Mine was:

I think Jon snow is the sprog of Ned and the mad kings wife, I definitely think he has royal blood and that his death was ultimately to release him from his vow to the watch.

although I think i'm going to run with your one now.