That should've been episode 9.
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I'd agree about the IMDB part but I'd certainly put the show among the best shows of all time. At it's best it's about as good as it get's for TV. Even at it's lowest points it's still bloody great. Easily deserves to be ranked up there.
Amidst all the chaos last night, the worst line in the show's entire run seems to have gone under the radar.
"You want a good girl but need the bad pussy."
"You want a good girl but need the bad pussy."
Disappointing end to a disappointing season really. Too much time spent on travelling, dragged out scenes and setting up plots that leads to nowhere or are resolved very quickly due to stupidity (like Stannis marching on Winterfell with a very thin army). Of course Snow had to die with the way they've set up this season, but I don't really see what purpose it has - other than "OMG GOT KILLED ANOTHER MAJOR CHARACTER". I guess they'll spend most of next season building up another character at Castle Black now.
That's the thing with Stannis, he was always built up as some great war veteran, yet has constantly made the most stupid mistakes in this. All that build up and all that air time, I refuse to believe that's the way it all ends for him 
Possibly it was saved by the proclamation of ''I've had less cocks than the queen.''
I don't get how people are disappointed by any of the last three episodes, you should of stopped watching this show midway through season 2 really.
They are CLEAR hints to Snows future, whether they are just a tease or not is another thing. But if his death is proved to be for nothing, get upset then, not now when it's still just happened.
They are CLEAR hints to Snows future, whether they are just a tease or not is another thing. But if his death is proved to be for nothing, get upset then, not now when it's still just happened.
Like I said, it depends on personal preference. I think that it's about as exciting as watching paint dry at the lowest points (like Jon Snow walking around north of the wall for ages). At the best of times it's up there among the best, but in my opinion there's simply too many filler episodes to keep it up there (like half (and a bit more, probably) of the season that just ended).
They really don't seem concerned with giving away spoilers in trailers and episode titles.
Do people really think that was actually the real Cersei actress? It was a pretty bad CGI.
It was a pretty bad CGI.One whole feckin year though.
I really hated that episode. Stannis' army gets destroyed despite being this supposed great military leader and half his army leaves the night before they can actually march towards their objective. Oberyn's girlfriend gives an over the top kiss to Myrcella and as if that wasn't subtle enough they have a scene where they've waited on the docks a while longer to show her drinking they antidote. Like she wouldn't drink it as soon as they left and before she shows any signs of the poison having an effect.
There is no way Jon stays dead. It's fine killing off major characters when you've got others to spare but if he's gone then who have you got at the wall to keep that story going?
Also it might be because my stream was stopping and starting but that Cersei scene felt way too long and very uncomfortable. It also reminded me of Cersei's stupid decision that got her put in that position in the first place.
There is no way Jon stays dead. It's fine killing off major characters when you've got others to spare but if he's gone then who have you got at the wall to keep that story going?
Also it might be because my stream was stopping and starting but that Cersei scene felt way too long and very uncomfortable. It also reminded me of Cersei's stupid decision that got her put in that position in the first place.
Slightly ruined the Jon thing by having Melisandre turn up the scene before though, ruined any real suspense about his fate for next season.
So now we're near the endgame, what order would you rate the seasons? Personally I'd go season 1 > season 4 > season 3 > season 5 > season 2
Too important from previous season, but what she says to Arya is telling.
1 = 3 > 2 = 4 >>>>>>>5
1 = 2 = 3 = 4 > 5
So, could it be any more obvious that Melisandre will resurrect Jon?
She will have realised that her visions were in fact mistaken and Jon is the rightful king in the eyes of the lord or whatever (due to secretly being rhaegar and lyanna's son) and bring him back. It seems like the theory has too much traction at this point to not be how it all turns out. No chance is he really dead as the show has put far too much into him.
She will have realised that her visions were in fact mistaken and Jon is the rightful king in the eyes of the lord or whatever (due to secretly being rhaegar and lyanna's son) and bring him back. It seems like the theory has too much traction at this point to not be how it all turns out. No chance is he really dead as the show has put far too much into him.
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That whole video is very interesting.
Melisandre to Priest said:
The High Priest giving out missions, so does that Melisandre was given a mission? What was it and did it change?
Melisandre to Priest said:
Priest to Melisandre said:
This suggests that resurrection seems very rare and difficult. She responding both surprised and amazed, which might mean she can't do it herself and that could suggest that she'll need to plead for the Lord of Light if Jon was to survive.
Melisandre to Arya said:
That's a clear sign of her being the assassin. Are the eyes her kills or the people she cleans? "we will meet again". So either Arya comes back to Westeros, or Melisandre goes to Bravos...
1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5
Too much teasing. I hope Boring Stan is really dead tho, it was quite an undramatic battle that.
Too much teasing. I hope Boring Stan is really dead tho, it was quite an undramatic battle that.
@justboy68 spoilers FFS
Wasn't a battle really was it? It was a massacre. Stannis' lot were cavalry but had no horses, they were fecked.
@RedSky Yeah I found that video trying to google the correct spelling for "R'hllor" and it mentioned Thoros who i had forgotten what he looked like. So I clicked his name and it came up with that video. I really need to watch this show again and see how much I have really missed (and foreshadowing and such).
Melisandres surprise at how he was brought back to life (and it was done 5-6) makes it seem like it will be a big thing if she does bring back Snow. Given her and Snows scene before, surely she must have seen something in him to want to do this (and her losing faith in Stannis it seemed).
Unless as to what was asked, maybe her mission was to destroy Stannis and she succeeded (but was sad because of the way it happened and she grew fond of him, lol)
Melisandres surprise at how he was brought back to life (and it was done 5-6) makes it seem like it will be a big thing if she does bring back Snow. Given her and Snows scene before, surely she must have seen something in him to want to do this (and her losing faith in Stannis it seemed).
Unless as to what was asked, maybe her mission was to destroy Stannis and she succeeded (but was sad because of the way it happened and she grew fond of him, lol)
Agreed. Probably need to find and rewatch the scenes where she interacts with Jon Snow now.
Apologies I don't ever really post in here so don't know what needs spoilers and what doesn't. I've put it all in one just in case.
I wouldn't worry. It's all speculation at this point anyway.
The entire Baratheon family line has been wiped out now, hasn't it? Unless we're counting Gendry and his fecking boat.
It'd be mighty disappointing thought if Daenerys ends up spending next season trying to find her way back.
Cool to see Varys back too but that was kind of ruined by seeing "Conleth Hill" in the opening sequence.
Little finger. Where is that cnut anyways?
Tommen is technically a Baratheon too, in name at least.
In name. But yeah, I think thats the end of the Baratheons except for Gendry (who I think is the last one of Robs bastards?).
I'm surprised how many people didn't like the episode. For me it set up next season to be a hell of a lot better than this one.
Season 5 had a couple of good episodes but it seemed like a season that needed to happen. They needed to kill off some dead ends from the old (season 1-4)world and establish the threat of "Winter". Now Season 6 is set up to get back to what this show does best - the "game of thrones".
Season 5 had a couple of good episodes but it seemed like a season that needed to happen. They needed to kill off some dead ends from the old (season 1-4)world and establish the threat of "Winter". Now Season 6 is set up to get back to what this show does best - the "game of thrones".
- The boring Arya training phase seems to be over. That kill scene was awesome. Not sure if she's dead, blind, faceless or what now but it's going to be a lot more exciting than her storyline this year.
- Sansa and Theon either committed suicide or have escaped from Winterfell. Makes sense that they survived and will now go to look for Bran. Might meet up with Brienne and Pod as well.
- Danaerys has been taken by a load of horsey lords around whom she will presumably be passed about like currency before somehow establishing herself as their Khaleesi again. Bit worried by this because I thought we were going to see her go to Old Valeryia next year and she needs a decent change in her storyline.
- Some of the best dialogue and politicking in the series came when Varys and Tyrion were ruling Kings Landing. Really looking forward to their spell in Mereen, especially if there are still Harpies about. Not to mention two spare dragons!
- That Cersei scene was great. Yes it was long but it was a genius way to give her the comeuppance we all needed to see, without losing one of the best characters, and probably the best actor on the show. Her wrath next year is going to be immense. And finally the Mountain is going to be a real presence. Can't wait to see what happens there. The Kings Landing stuff will only be improved by Jamie arriving home in a boat with their dead daughter and her Dornian fiance.
- Sam and Gilly aren't the best characters in the show, but I'm looking forward to seeing Oldtown and the place they train Maesters. There'll be some interesting stuff to come out of that library I'd say.
- The Jon death was well done, even if we all knew it was coming. There's no chance he's actually dead for good though. The whole Jon/Melisandre dynamic was set up weeks ago for this and there's no reason for her to be there without him. I'd say she was doubting herself on whether Stannis or Jon was the real chosen one when she was last at the wall and the deserters only proved her doubts. We know winter is coming and the wall is going to be a huge part of everything from now on. Who are they going to make the story about if Jon is dead and Sam/Gilly are gone, Thorne and Olly? No chance.
Sam: "I used to worry about Jon Snow, but he always comes back"
Big enough of a hint to me
Big enough of a hint to me
Melisandre reviving Jon Snow seems the obvious next step as others have suggested.
It works in several ways as they can argue that by dying, Jon Snow is released from all his vows, and so now will be able to go and rule the seven kingdoms or whatever he wants to do next.
While we are on Melisandre - I said before and I still feel like she had some ulterior motive with Stannis. It is almost as though her entire "mission" (though we dont know who sent her) was to basically get rid of Stannis and the entire remainder of the Baratheon bloodline. Think about it: She killed Renly, she killed Stannis' wife and daughter, she got Stannis killed, she even had a look at Gendry. I dont know what her end game is, but she certainly seems interested in Jon Snow.
Of course there is also a possibility that Stannis didnt actually get killed by Brienne - standard GoT rule that they arent dead until you see the corpse (and even then sometimes not). Schrodinger's Stannis anyone?
It works in several ways as they can argue that by dying, Jon Snow is released from all his vows, and so now will be able to go and rule the seven kingdoms or whatever he wants to do next.
While we are on Melisandre - I said before and I still feel like she had some ulterior motive with Stannis. It is almost as though her entire "mission" (though we dont know who sent her) was to basically get rid of Stannis and the entire remainder of the Baratheon bloodline. Think about it: She killed Renly, she killed Stannis' wife and daughter, she got Stannis killed, she even had a look at Gendry. I dont know what her end game is, but she certainly seems interested in Jon Snow.
Of course there is also a possibility that Stannis didnt actually get killed by Brienne - standard GoT rule that they arent dead until you see the corpse (and even then sometimes not). Schrodinger's Stannis anyone?
So what the feck went on with Arya in the end?
Dany has spent 5 seasons to basically get back to square one in being the basic bitch for a bunch of horsemen...hurrah.
Season 6 = the search for Dany, whilst Tyrion and whatshisface run the city. The latter sounds interesting, the former does not.
Stannis/Bolton "battle that wasnt" was a bit annoying - spend the entire season building up to this huge climactic battle and then just skip it. Also I expected a bit more...ahem...firepower, from Melisandre. Burning your kid just to melt a bit of ice? Come on.
The poisoned kiss in Dorne was incredibly obvious. Somehow even with the hugely limited amount of airtime they got in this episode, the Sand Snakes still appeared to look absolutely clueless as actresses.
Finally seeing plenty of Cersei was worth the wait, good scene as well - be interesting to see what she does next season.
The season as a whole was good, but a definite downgrade on previous ones. Felt like a lot of it was dragged out with too much filler. I can appreciate it would potentially be a problem if they simply dont have that much content (from the books) on those particular storylines in order to make 10 episodes worth, but still...
Final thought related to the above
It seems like the TV show has basically started to go off in another direction entirely from the books. My girlfriend has mentioned several times things that didnt happen in the books. Personally, I dont quite understand why HBO felt the need to change a winning formula. G.R.R.M's writing had everyone absolutely hooked in the first few seasons, but now it has become a bit more like a TV show and less like an adaptation - we are seeing scenes and events seemingly introduced just for dramatic effect or shock value. If it aint broke, dont bloody fix it HBO.
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Fantastic summary. Agree with all of it.
What if the Baratheons are opposed to Jon Snow (well whoever the feck his mother is / their family line). If she was sent by the lord of light as her mission to wipe out all that could oppose 'the true chosen one', and then she will finally meet him (which she has) and her final mission is to bring him back to life and help him bring a new world - thats why she was sad, she knew what was coming to Jon and she must now do something she hasnt done before, resurrection)
Or not...
Or not...
Well yeah but surely having the joint ever highest rating on there holds some weight? Joint with breaking bad, which is a brilliant show.