Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

I just watched it, but randomly had really "clear voice" turned on the tv.

The sound was really really shite all the way through and there was not atmosphere whatsoever.

I both really hate how my tv turns on clear voice sometimes and thought that episode was a bit dull.
 
Just watched the last 2 episode.. My head is spinning.. Both were excellent episodes..

Oberyn..:(

How does Jon plan to kill Mance Ryder if he gives his sword to Sam? Its like a suicide mission.. :nervous:
 
Just watched the last 2 episode.. My head is spinning.. Both were excellent episodes..

Oberyn..:(

How does Jon plan to kill Mance Ryder if he gives his sword to Sam? Its like a suicide mission.. :nervous:
He plans to charm him to death, it's so predictable.
 
What was funnier was the giant was very clearly going to smash through that iron gate separating them (as they are reciting the shit poem). Now, knowing this, would you really want to stand about 3ft away from the huge gate, which is so obviously going to crush you like a rat, like they were doing? It doesn't show how they die, I guess they want you to think there was some awesome battle where everyone was fighting to the end, just about taking the giant with them. What really happened was the giant ran through that gate, which then fell down backwards and crushed them all within 5 fecking seconds.
But they held the gate.
 
The most touching relationship of the entire show so far has been the two giants (RIP).
 
I'm starting to feel the withdraw pains starting, it will be some 8 months until we see another episode after sunday... :(
Excuse me, we pretend this isn't the case until the moment the final episode finishes and then we weep uncontrollably for about an hour. Not a minute sooner.
 
Don't even know how to even respond to that. So supposing I don't know about historical battles, this show isn't for me? In other words, I'm pretty sure it wasn't intended to be that confusing.

The result was confusing as well. Unlike blackwater bay (which had those bombs by tyrion and the back up army that changed the battle) there was no clear indication of how the nights watch won the battle.

In ninety percent of the scenes each member of the wildlings are killing 3-4 of the men of the night watch and to make it worse they also out-number them. How was it that suddenly the wildling army was defeated?

I genuinely want to know that because it is possible that I've missed something. If I have not, that was just terrible portrayal.

Sure, they were outnumbered by wildlings and thenns in total. But remember, most of them got nowhere near breaching the wall. And they made it clear that Mance was testing the Castle's resolve before later attacks. Apart from the one giant, no one from the northern side of the wall got to the castle, so the Night's Watch 'only' had to defeat those from the southern side, which was the small band of wildlings Jon Snow travelled back with plus the Thenns. I don't think they were outnumbered at all. Would have been a different story if they didn't defend the gate.
 
Just watched the last episode again and the thing that bothered me was when Sam released the direwolf. How the hell is a dog supposed to be able to the difference between the good guys and the bad guys?
 
Just watched the last episode again and the thing that bothered me was when Sam released the direwolf. How the hell is a dog supposed to be able to the difference between the good guys and the bad guys?

Who cares, it's a fantasy series.
 
Just watched the last episode again and the thing that bothered me was when Sam released the direwolf. How the hell is a dog supposed to be able to the difference between the good guys and the bad guys?

Scent.
 
Watched it late last night... fecking GREAT episode.

  • From a technical standpoint, it was fecking marvellous - the scale/scope of the battle was brilliantly portrayed, and some of the long tracking shots were excellent. (That Giants arrow into that guy - from the bottom of one end of the wall to the bottom of the other was a highlight - in a episode full of highlights).
  • The story was good (As always, I could have done with less Sam and Gilly - but there you go) and, considering they have been building to this for multiple season, I was definitely invested enough and felt the stakes.
  • Loads of good little character moments for Jon and Jon's mates who's names escape me (I say escape me, I just don't know what they're actually called).
  • Gilly running along the edge of that mound when all the wildlings were gathered round a fire :lol: what a fecking moron.
  • I actually found Ginger Girls death - against all odds - quite touching/impactful... until she said "You know nothing" - at which point it became a bit silly and being fan service (unless that line is in the book - in which case, George R Martin needs to sort his shit out)
  • For people complaining about this not being in Kings Landing at all - be fecking patient... we've got another hour that will probably only be devoted to all that. This battle needed to happen, and for this episode to jump anywhere else would have taken the urgency away from the battle - and it would have been incredibly jarring.
  • I also get the feeling that some people are disappointed because it's episode 9 and someone important didn't die (I reckon if Jon Snow had died a gruesome death, people would love this episode a load more for some bizarre reason) - which is exactly what I hope this show doesn't become (i.e, it's only cool 'cos good guys die) - I could be totally wrong on that feeling mind you.
 
In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes that same rib twice in succession yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we, to believe that this is some sort of a, a magic xylophone or something?
 
Who cares, it's a fantasy series.
I see this floated around a lot and also with The Walking Dead ("who cares, it's a show about f*cking zombies!"), but I don't see how it's valid. These shows are trying to portray realism and seriousness in this setting and if there are stupid plotholes and silly facets then they should be pointed out.

Mind you, the "dog" comment was a bit silly.
 
Just watched the last episode again and the thing that bothered me was when Sam released the direwolf. How the hell is a dog supposed to be able to the difference between the good guys and the bad guys?
Didn't the dog attack the guy Jon Snow was fighting? Pretty sure that was a give away.
 
The rules/capabilities/limitations around the dogs/direwolves has been long established since pretty much the first ever episode - so why anyone would question that now is a bit odd.
 
I see this floated around a lot and also with The Walking Dead ("who cares, it's a show about f*cking zombies!"), but I don't see how it's valid. These shows are trying to portray realism and seriousness in this setting and if there are stupid plotholes and silly facets then they should be pointed out.

Mind you, the "dog" comment was a bit silly.

Walking Dead really takes biscuit, but yeah I suppose some elements should be questioned. It's just that Direwolves as seen in this show obviously never have, or never will exists, so what do you base their ability on?
 
There's a dog on my street that barks at me every time I pass its house. From a tactical point of view, you can't release one and be sure it won't kill your own men at some point.
 
There's a dog on my street that barks at me every time I pass its house. From a tactical point of view, you can't release one and be sure it won't kill your own men at some point.

its a fact that wildlings smell exactly like pedigree chum....

from a tactical point of view this makes them the perfect wildling killing machine

the other benefit is that wildlings provides direwolves with strong teeth and a glossy coat
 
Reading back through the thread - really don't get the dislike/hate for this episode...

Is this a book reader dislike thing? A simple yes or no will do.
 
Reading back through the thread - really don't get the dislike/hate for this episode...

Is this a book reader dislike thing? A simple yes or no will do.
No.

To elaborate, I think a lot of people were expecting a continuation to the Lannister story arc and are impatient. Of course the series will focus the final episode on that as it will likely lead to the kind of ending that will set up nicely for the next season.
 
I do think the majority of people were ready for the outcome of what would happen to Tyrion, which I think distracted people from the epicness of the episode.

A shame really but maybe they should have continued with Tyrions story, and then finished with the battle in the last episode.
 
The gate thing would been better if you saw them stick their swords through the gate. Then you could at least understand them just standing there.

Yeah. You watch it back and there is no way they didn't just get completely massacred underneath that fecking gate. Who knows, maybe the giant killed himself?