Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

After re-watching last week's episode, I may have been a tad harsh with my initial assessment. Disappointed might be too strong of a word, but still thought it was underwhelming compared to the consistently stellar run of this season and especially being the penultimate episode. Main issues were it focused solely on Castle Black, too much of Sam & Gilly, and the cheesy death scene with the redhead. Small gripes, mind you.

My question is where the feck are the white walkers? Shouldn't the wildlings be fighting them moreso than the Knight's Watch? Are the wildlings not heading south of the wall to get away from them?
 
I was a little disappointed but only because I wanted to find out what happens with Tyrion. Now have to wait another week :mad:

If only they had shown this episode a week earlier, as episode 8, then I think there would hardly be any complaints at all. It was a very nicely done episode but I kept on waiting the whole time for them to shift to King's Landing and that kind of made me not enjoy it as much as I would have had.
 
I sort of understand people's frustrations at episode 9. Seems like a lot of show watchers aren't as invested in the Wall storyline compared to the King's Landing storyline.

Man of Leisure said:
My question is where the feck are the white walkers? Shouldn't the wildlings be fighting them moreso than the Knight's Watch? Are the wildlings not heading south of the wall to get away from them?
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I'm pretty sure the wildlings can't win against the white walkers so fighting them is pointless. Normal weapons can't kill them except that dagger that Sam used on the one he killed.
 
Man of Leisure said:
After re-watching last week's episode, I may have been a tad harsh with my initial assessment. Disappointed might be too strong of a word, but still thought it was underwhelming compared to the consistently stellar run of this season and especially being the penultimate episode. Main issues were it focused solely on Castle Black, too much of Sam & Gilly, and the cheesy death scene with the redhead. Small gripes, mind you.

My question is where the feck are the white walkers? Shouldn't the wildlings be fighting them moreso than the Knight's Watch? Are the wildlings not heading south of the wall to get away from them?
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Think they understand that they don't have much chance of survival against the White Walkers. Hence they are marching south and the Watch People will generally kill them on sight if they come anywhere close to the Wall, they have therefore come together to make one joint attempt fight the Watch People and reach south of the wall, with the hope that Wall will stop the White Walkers.

Mel_F said:
I sort of understand people's frustrations at episode 9. Seems like a lot of show watchers aren't as invested in the Wall storyline compared to the King's Landing storyline.

I'm pretty sure the wildlings can't win against the white walkers so fighting them is pointless. Normal weapons can't kill them except that dagger that Sam used on the one he killed.
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This is what I find most weird as the White Walkers are the main threat. At least that's what been implied since the first episode.
 
I've started watching this the past three or four weeks. It's absolutely brilliant, one of my favourite shows of all time. I have just finished the latest episode now which means I'm stuck with the rest of you having to wait a week. When is the next series set to start?
 
BarneyLFC said:
I've started watching this the past three or four weeks. It's absolutely brilliant, one of my favourite shows of all time. I have just finished the latest episode now which means I'm stuck with the rest of you having to wait a week. When is the next series set to start?
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Going by past track record, April 2015
 
harshadgada said:
This is what I find most weird as the White Walkers are the main threat. At least that's what been implied since the first episode.
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Its probably because a brainless army is a very boring enemy in a world where most conflicts have nuances and no black and white characters on either side. Its too black and white with the white walkers, white walkers are bad, the guys at the wall are more good than the walkers, its no contest. The wildlings also suffer from being too unnuanced so in total the wall story line is boring compared to the King's Landing arch.
 
Man of Leisure said:
After re-watching last week's episode, I may have been a tad harsh with my initial assessment. Disappointed might be too strong of a word, but still thought it was underwhelming compared to the consistently stellar run of this season and especially being the penultimate episode.
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But this means we are more likely to get an awesome final episode rather than a wind down.
 
BarneyLFC said:
I've started watching this the past three or four weeks. It's absolutely brilliant, one of my favourite shows of all time. I have just finished the latest episode now which means I'm stuck with the rest of you having to wait a week. When is the next series set to start?
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They usually start early every April, so probably around then next year, unfortunately.
 
fecking sky showing GoT adverts every 15 mins. Have to avoid it like the plague.
 
Bross said:
Its probably because a brainless army is a very boring enemy in a world where most conflicts have nuances and no black and white characters on either side. Its too black and white with the white walkers, white walkers are bad, the guys at the wall are more good than the walkers, its no contest. The wildlings also suffer from being too unnuanced so in total the wall story line is boring compared to the King's Landing arch.
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We don't know anything about them. They could very well be supremely intelligent beings who are planning a coordinated attack on the wall and the skirmishes we have seen so far are them trying to test the defences and mentality of their foes i.e. everyone other than an Other.

To not care about what's happening in the North could very well lead to a situation where something happens and the audience is left scratching their head not understanding how it happened or why it happened. A situation that can very well be avoided.
 
walsh said:
This is my outlook. I was quite glad they postponed the King's Landing storyline for the final episode, leaves it to look forward to.
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Exactly. And as that is practically the 'main' storyline, it would lead into the next season nicely
 
We've barely seen the whitewalkers this season though - apart from that episode where they showed that thing 'turning' the kid.

I think this has been a problem with the show - they just show snippets of these things and it becomes really difficult to get attached to a particular storyline when we've barely seen about 5 minutes of this whole kind of thing beyond the wall over an entire season!

I don't think they will show us anything beyond the wall in the next episode. Probably the next season will pick up on whatever Jon plans to do beyond the wall. I'd wish to see what kind of turn around they have planned for Sansa plus some snippets of Arya, Hodor and Rickon in the last episode. And hopefully they'll clear out the Tyrion storyline in the next episode and not leave us hanging on that too.

So it looks like there's too many open questions left to be answered in the last episode. Hopefully they'll not waste any time showing Khaleesi's jeans and how she listens to her subjects :rolleyes:
 
Dirty Schwein said:
But this means we are more likely to get an awesome final episode rather than a wind down.
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Yes. And as Duffy has mentioned, the show's creators feel that the upcoming season finale is the finest hour of Game of Thrones ever made. Expectations will certainly be high after comments like that.
 
Hope it turns out to be a red herring, but the way the Hound keeps touching that bite mark is more than slightly annoying. If it really is intended to just be misleading, I can't recall off the top of my head where GoT has fecked with us like this. No problem fecking us in other ways, mind.
 
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Can I make a small prediction...

Anyone else getting this feeling from this seasons hints that the Dragons might soon go rogue and leave Daenerys? Perhaps even causing a bit of chaos before flying off? We've seen a fair few scenes this Season where we've been handed a few hints of them growing ever wilder. I'm wondering if they're a bit of a red herring, we've always assumed that they'd be the answer to the White Walker threat as they're vulnerable to fire. But I'm now starting to wonder if the true purpose of the Dragons was to allow Daenerys to acquire an Army and start her crusade off.

It'd be good story development if her Dragons became uncontrollable and started to burn her own army. It would certainly provide an interesting stumbling point for her character. Showing her followers that she might not be as strong as they initially perceived. Would be a nice ironic twist for the Mother of Dragons.[/spoiler']
 
RedSky said:
Can I make a small prediction...

Anyone else getting this feeling from this seasons hints that the Dragons might soon go rogue and leave Daenerys? Perhaps even causing a bit of chaos before flying off? We've seen a fair few scenes this Season where we've been handed a few hints of them growing ever wilder. I'm wondering if they're a bit of a red herring, we've always assumed that they'd be the answer to the White Walker threat as they're vulnerable to fire. But I'm now starting to wonder if the true purpose of the Dragons was to allow Daenerys to acquire an Army and start her crusade off.

It'd be good story development if her Dragons became uncontrollable and started to burn her own army. It would certainly provide an interesting stumbling point for her character. Showing her followers that she might not be as strong as they initially perceived. Would be a nice ironic twist for the Mother of Dragons.[/spoiler']
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..and how would her character move forward from that? I'm assuming she still needs to cross the sea at some point to claim the iron throne or do you think that she'll be killed off too?
 
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Ashwin said:
..and how would her character move forward from that? I'm assuming she still needs to cross the sea at some point to claim the iron throne or do you think that she'll be killed off too?
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She'd still have an army (as long as the Dragons didn't kill too many Unsullied). But it would mean that she'd have to actually use her Army for a change because she wouldn't have the Dragons as a weapon any longer. So she'd actually meet some resistance, suffer a few defeats. Her storyline this Season has been about learning how to Rule, next Season could be about her learning how to Rule while things start falling apart. Really testing her leadership skills without her Dragons as a safety net. Wasn't it Tywin who said "men win wars, not dragons."
 
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I've always preferred older women, so the hottest for me would be Missandre, and that Sands woman who came with Oberyn. I love her subtle acting because although she doesn't have that many lines, she makes sure her character's presence is felt even when the focus is on those around her. An example is when Tyrion questioned Oberyn about armor and drinking before the fight, she turns her head and looks at him as if to say "what on earth would you know about that little man" and twirls her body seductively, without having to say a word.
 
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